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They are a much different team now than they were then. Players were still learning the system and as I said, we would have beat UVA (by double digits) if we still had our kicker. Heck, Urbs almost lost to a terrible Cal team and was outplayed by a bad UAB team, but that was the first 3rd of the year... no one thinks they are the same team now as they were then.
Again, 67 scholarship players. Key contributors were 2 star or walk-ons when they came to PSU. If you think he is undeserving, you are a homer. Urban deserved it as well, and if he won, there would be nothing to complain.
So you're using it against Urban for winning close and not dominating the opponent ?
A win is a win is a win and they all count the same in the record book !!! Good grief...
Good points raised in this post and I, too would have liked to have seen Meyer win.
W-L record and season over season turnaround are typically the key factors that weigh into this type of award.
I can see, however, that with the scandal, sanctions, and transfers, the wheels could have really come off the bus at PSU. Instead, they played pretty solid football and these considerations apparently weighed more heavily than the typical factors in deciding who would get the award.
In trying to be fair-minded, I can see why O'Brien was selected over Meyer and cannot take major issue with it. If Meyer leads us to the NC next season, he will be a lock.
I KNOW you aren't comparing LB depth to ours....we had NONE...we moved a 4 year FB to play LB. And if I'm not mistaken, many on your board made it abundantly clear that ALL of your LB's were better than our best LB. So, again, with all that talent on PSU's roster, I would think you could've handled Ohio and Virginia.
JT won a MNC but never won COY sowhat makes anyone believe that is UM were to win he would be a lock? Besides, COY is voted on BEFORE the NC game.
How is going from a losing record to 12-0 not a lock.
Why did you respond to my original post twice? Did you see my followup?
But yeah... you just skip over the part where I said we had 67 scholarship players this year. And let me tell you, many were not highly sought after kids in high school, including ones who started. Let me put it like this... OSU had 9 starters who were former 4+ star recruits to PSU's 2 (and one of them was a FB playing HB). On defense, OSU had 7 4+ stars to PSU's 4. The talent that Urbs inherited was WAY higher than what BOB got at PSU.
EDIT: BTW, I wasn't originally comparing LB depth, I was just stating that we had no depth... at LB or DB.
This post was edited by getmyjive11 20 months ago
Wait, Wait, WAIT......why do you use the star rating of players when on your board, when talking about recruiting classes, when an opposing fan happens to mention star ratings they are told they know nothing about football and star ratings are meaningless....PSU is the definition of speaking out of both sides of their mouths, whichever twist makes their side more enlightened is the correct side.
My only hope is as these sanctions move forward, PSU will see a steady drop and by year 4 you will be struggling to stay in any game you play. If any fanbase needed a jolt of reality, it is PSU's. This will be your best year in the next 4 or 5, it will be fun to watch the meltdowns on your board over that time.
PS....Mauti has "cankles"
You mean the Big 10 Runnerup game, don't you?
Maybe O'brian would have received the Counselor of the Year award.
What are you talking about? Who said anything about the star rating of players not being legitimate?
Boy, you sound bitter.
Do you spend ANY time on "Lions Pride"? If not, go check out any of my chats with them, let me know what I said to get banned, and look at comments from tools like HamiltonLion. Then get back to me..
You were trolling and talking sh!t. If you don't know why you were banned, then I can't help you.
Yeah, I guess if talking about upcoming games is talking shit then you are correct... I'll act like I'm a PSU fan real quick. "GTFO" Hey, that is a good feeling...now I see why it's the favorite term used by your "WE ARE" cult....
This award is like a "nice parting gift" on a game show. Don't expect Coach Meyer cares about this, so I don't either. The team has the highest of goals which makes "Big Ten Coach of the Year" an afterthought.
That award reminds me of the time in the late 90's when our basketball coach, Jim O'Brien faced Auburn on the way to the Final Four, and we "curb stomped them"to advance, and the media,press and arena people already had the championship shirts and hats in the Auburn locker room, and then a few days after the Final 4, they named the Auburn coach COTY in college basketball..Huh?
Someone's mad. Enjoy the holidays at home.
enjoy your 3rd rose bowl loss in a row to 3 different teams
wisky won't be back to the rose bowl, or the B1G championship game for at least a decade.
Hey, someone left the "tool box" open....
where were you the last few weeks Badger? Didn't hear a peep out of any of them after our game or their game against PSU....(you LOST to PSU????) hahahahahahaha
Enjoy your yearly bowl ass pounding.
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