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  • Urban_Meyer said... (original post)

    Really? You're still defending Bollman after he has been exposed as nothing more than a leech that rode the coattails of his friend Tressel to a job that he was unqualified for and was far overpaid for what he produced? The success of the offense under Tressel was all Tressel, this season made it obvious that Bollman was not a positive force during Tressel's tenure.

    And you hope that Urban can have the same offensive success that Tressel had? Are you nuts? Remember Urban has coached 3 teams that have all had great offenses, all the while running an offense that was decidedly not conservative. You sound like you've got something against Urban's offense or just have a hard on for Bollman's poorly-run offense.

    Defending Bollman? No. Defending the results that we achieved with the Tressel staff that included Bollman. Hell yes, because I value wins and losses and you cannot dispute that Bollman has been the OC during a decade of success that is among the best at OSU ever. Bollman was a part of something really good - but somehow you geniuses just know he was "a leech", "unqualified" and "far overpaid"?

    Do you really think last year "proved" anything about Bollman? Do you really think the ONLY thing that changed was that Tressel wasnt hear? I seem to remember our Sugar Bowl & Rose Bowl MVP Heisman candidate QB was gone, his backup choked and we had to play a true freshman QB? That our best RB was suspended for 6 games and our 2nd best for 2 games? That our best WR was suspended for 10 games and our 3rd best went out with injuries after game 4? That our best OL was suspended 5 games? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, those things affected how well our offense ran this year? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, it limited the playcalling on offense?

    So yes I am "nuts" enough to hope that Urban's open offense will give us the success in WINS and LOSSES that the Tressel buttoned-up approach did. 9-1 vs. Michigan, 7 B10 titles in 10 years, 8 BCS bowls with 5-3 record, 1-2 in NC games, 7 top 5 finishes. That is what matters - not how conservative the offense looks to you sofa-coaches who think all think you can call plays. I think Urban will do great here, but I guarantee you know-it-all guys will be the first ones to turn on Tim Herman if we start slow.

    I have no idea why you idiots try to measure CFB success in anything other than W's and L's - and I have no idea why you are such dicks that you want a guy who coached during the best 10 year run in recent memory to lose his pension. I would love any of you prattling asses to say it to his face - he would kill you. So would any of the real Buckeyes who played for him. So would Earle Bruce for that matter. Ole 9-3 Earle would slap you stupid and say "the guy gave you 10 years of success, shut the hell up already".

    So shut the hell up already.

  • Actually, this season as a whole came pretty close to my worst Buckeye nightmare. One of the greatest coaches in OSU history forced out. Facing NCAA sanctions. Rookie head coach. Suspensions. The Joe Bauserman experiment. Nail-biting victory over Toledo. Losses to Miami and Michigan State where the offense was so bad you just hoped and prayed the team could get a first down let alone any points. More suspensions (not sure if that's right on the timeline). Come from ahead loss to Nebraska. Loss to Purdue. Loss to child molesters. 6-6. Worst of all: first loss to TSUN in many many years.

    The only things that salvaged this season for me were the win over Wisky and the hiring of Urban Meyer. And I'll throw in the win against Illinois, but only because I actually made the trip there and I got to see the team win in another stadium once again. Otherwise, I can't imagine a whole lot worse than this season. Except, as someone mentioned, Brady Hoke in a Speedo. Or Charlie Weiss in one. Or a contest between the two. pukeface

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Kid Columbus 3 years ago

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  • Re-living 1-9-1. That blew.

    "man we got some fuckin weirdos on this site." - Davebucknut 9/5/13 post of the year

  • Great post PhilaBuck- dead on. I cannot understand the Bollman haters....yes he called a consertative game....but he was a great Buckeye..brought wins and dominated the 2000-2010 period. Not his fault for all that happened to squash 2011 success..76% of his offense from 2010 did not start the 2011 season...in 2011 he was without his playcalling buddy Tressel, and went it alone..sure he was consertative...try playing a 6th year QB that should be playing baseball and is your quarterback...and starting a young freshmen which had very limited experience and format to operate. Shame on you bucknutters for some of the things you have called him...one poster called him a "piece of sh@t" in another post. As I observed the2011 season I saw more reason to complain about the Defensive coaches who litterly "gave away games" with out stopping 3rd down and long drives.....Move to Indiana or Minnesota and then post on their boards.....OSU has been a winner...it doesn't need whiners complaining about Bollman...he's gone now..you should be happy...lets see what now developes......with Meyer...a few losses and you will be complaining about Joe Schmuck or who ever Meyer puts in the slot......I guess 6 straight B10 titles and 9 of 11 wins over scUm don't count for anything! I saw three ball games "get away from us" that were not Bollman's fault (1) blocked kick 2) Philly drop inside 10 yard line(3) Ovethrow of TD by BM to Posey...win those and we would have had a very different season....

    This post was edited by Bigjimmie 3 years ago

  • Urban_Meyer

    PhilaBuck said... (original post)

    Defending Bollman? No. Defending the results that we achieved with the Tressel staff that included Bollman. Hell yes, because I value wins and losses and you cannot dispute that Bollman has been the OC during a decade of success that is among the best at OSU ever. Bollman was a part of something really good - but somehow you geniuses just know he was "a leech", "unqualified" and "far overpaid"?

    Do you really think last year "proved" anything about Bollman? Do you really think the ONLY thing that changed was that Tressel wasnt hear? I seem to remember our Sugar Bowl & Rose Bowl MVP Heisman candidate QB was gone, his backup choked and we had to play a true freshman QB? That our best RB was suspended for 6 games and our 2nd best for 2 games? That our best WR was suspended for 10 games and our 3rd best went out with injuries after game 4? That our best OL was suspended 5 games? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, those things affected how well our offense ran this year? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, it limited the playcalling on offense?

    So yes I am "nuts" enough to hope that Urban's open offense will give us the success in WINS and LOSSES that the Tressel buttoned-up approach did. 9-1 vs. Michigan, 7 B10 titles in 10 years, 8 BCS bowls with 5-3 record, 1-2 in NC games, 7 top 5 finishes. That is what matters - not how conservative the offense looks to you sofa-coaches who think all think you can call plays. I think Urban will do great here, but I guarantee you know-it-all guys will be the first ones to turn on Tim Herman if we start slow.

    I have no idea why you idiots try to measure CFB success in anything other than W's and L's - and I have no idea why you are such dicks that you want a guy who coached during the best 10 year run in recent memory to lose his pension. I would love any of you prattling asses to say it to his face - he would kill you. So would any of the real Buckeyes who played for him. So would Earle Bruce for that matter. Ole 9-3 Earle would slap you stupid and say "the guy gave you 10 years of success, shut the hell up already".

    So shut the hell up already.

    Stereotypical homer post. Even most of the other Bollman and Bauserman homers finally came around to see how inept he is when he called plays that even some kid playing Madden could see were ridiculous. Bollman got his job as part of Tressel's Friends and Family plan, not because he was qualified. Your black-and-white definition of the success of Bollman is as stale as it is dead wrong. The guy consistently had responsibility taken away from him by Tressel because he was so bad, being demoted from his position as OL coach because they were doing so badly.

    You claim that Bollman was so great because OSU won, but if he was so awesome then why did we never hear about him being wooed for OC or HC jobs at other schools? It makes no sense, for if he was so great and such a hot commodity that nobody would ever talk about him getting a big contract from another school. If he was so great, why did OSU, with all the great talent we pulled in, only have ONE o-lineman get drafted in the first round during his tenure? Where was the OL development? If Bollman was so great, why did we have so many issues with the o-line and pass protection that we had to have a mobile QB like Pryor or Miller to have any success because they were constantly running for their lives?

    Tressel WAS the offense, and this season goes to show that. Bollman's constant ineptitude and awful playcalling hurt this offense more than any player losses did. He made no attempt to help Miller out or to fool defenses by not calling the same things over and over.

    Wins and losses do not mean as much as you want them to and the proof is out there. OSU won in spite of Bollman, and this season is proof positive of that. When he was in charge, things went way downhill on offense. There are many cases of things going well despite one totally inept person being involved. Are you going to tell me that Larry Coker was a great coach because he won lots of games with Miami? No, Coker was a bad coach who ran Mami into the ground and only won because he had an absurd amount of talent that was recruited by Butch Davis. Did Barry Switzer win the Super Bowl because he was such a great NFL coach and built the Cowboys himself? No, he won because he inherited a great team from Jimmy Johnson.

    Just because someone is involved with a winning team doesn't mean they are winners themselves. So why don't you shut the hell up already, nobody wants to listen to a washed up Bollman homer anymore. You have discredited yourself through your own ridiculous arguments.

  • Having my company come in and tell me I was transfered to Florida. That was 7 years ago and I am still stuck here. Trying to get back so I can attend the games again. I did get to go to Miami earlier in the year and will be in Jacksonville to see the Bucks. I am dying on the vine because I used to go to every home game and have only been to 5 games in the last 7 years. Nightmare and Killer at the same time.

  • Bergy4 said... (original post)

    Bauserman granted another year of eligibility, named starting QB.

    Can't touch that one! LOL

  • Urban_Meyer said... (original post)

    Stereotypical homer post. Even most of the other Bollman and Bauserman homers finally came around to see how inept he is when he called plays that even some kid playing Madden could see were ridiculous. Bollman got his job as part of Tressel's Friends and Family plan, not because he was qualified. Your black-and-white definition of the success of Bollman is as stale as it is dead wrong. The guy consistently had responsibility taken away from him by Tressel because he was so bad, being demoted from his position as OL coach because they were doing so badly.

    You claim that Bollman was so great because OSU won, but if he was so awesome then why did we never hear about him being wooed for OC or HC jobs at other schools? It makes no sense, for if he was so great and such a hot commodity that nobody would ever talk about him getting a big contract from another school. If he was so great, why did OSU, with all the great talent we pulled in, only have ONE o-lineman get drafted in the first round during his tenure? Where was the OL development? If Bollman was so great, why did we have so many issues with the o-line and pass protection that we had to have a mobile QB like Pryor or Miller to have any success because they were constantly running for their lives?

    Tressel WAS the offense, and this season goes to show that. Bollman's constant ineptitude and awful playcalling hurt this offense more than any player losses did. He made no attempt to help Miller out or to fool defenses by not calling the same things over and over.

    Wins and losses do not mean as much as you want them to and the proof is out there. OSU won in spite of Bollman, and this season is proof positive of that. When he was in charge, things went way downhill on offense. There are many cases of things going well despite one totally inept person being involved. Are you going to tell me that Larry Coker was a great coach because he won lots of games with Miami? No, Coker was a bad coach who ran Mami into the ground and only won because he had an absurd amount of talent that was recruited by Butch Davis. Did Barry Switzer win the Super Bowl because he was such a great NFL coach and built the Cowboys himself? No, he won because he inherited a great team from Jimmy Johnson.

    Just because someone is involved with a winning team doesn't mean they are winners themselves. So why don't you shut the hell up already, nobody wants to listen to a washed up Bollman homer anymore. You have discredited yourself through your own ridiculous arguments.

    Oh, no please don't call me a "homer". I would hate to be associated with actually rooting FOR the program that I am a fan of, instead of complaining about it all the time.

    Funny you should say a "kid playing Madden" because that is really all you NegaBucks are. Big kids getting on the internet to anonymously post things that you would never have the nerve to say to anyone associated with the program, pretending that you can sit on your sofa eating Cheetos and somehow know more about coaching than the staff that led OSU to one of its most successful decades.

    I have never said "Bollman was so great" or "awesome" - I said he was a part of a very successful staff and the supposedly conservative offense (which somehow wasnt in 2005 and 2006) delivered a great W-L result. Those are FACTS - everything you are spewing is opinion or speculation.

    Speaking of FACTS and dead wrong:

    At what point did Jim Bollman get demoted as OL coach? Link?

    So Bollman only gave OSU one first round draft pick and that is proof he stinks? During that same time did you know how many 1st round picks Iowa had? 2. Southern Cal? 2. Wisconsin? 2. Penn State? 1. Alabama? 2. LSU? Zero. Miami FL? 2 Florida State? 2. Florida 2. Is it just possible that your expectation of OL draft record is more rooted in fantasy league than real world? Have some more Cheetos son.

    Some more FACTS: During Bollman's terrible tenure there were 3 OL's who were 1st team all American, 1 OL who was 2nd team All-American, 9 1st team all-B10, 7 2nd team all-B10 and 3 Honorable mention all-Big 10. 9 OL players selected in the NFL draft.

    And we "had to have a mobile QB like Pryor or Miller" - wow, given the fact that Pryor was the #1 QB recruit and turned out to be the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl MVP and that Miller was the #2 ranked QB recruit and was the B10 Freshman of the year, I would say most folks think that playing them was a good thing.

    Your argument about Switzer or Coker might make sense - if Bollman hadnt been here 10 years. 10 years. So he was playing with a stocked locker room for 10 years?

    The rest of your post is so stupid that I can't even think how to respond - I listed how our whole offense was depleted of top performers for most of the year, and your response? It didn't matter. We lost our MVP QB, best RB, best WR, best OL, most of our other WRs and .....it didn't matter. Brilliant logic.

    And then you finish with "wins and losses don't matter as much as you want them to" - I suppose they don't when you are playing Madden. You just push a button and start over. But in the real world of CFB, what really matters is Wins and Losses.

    Bollman may or may not be a bad coach, but his "terrible" offense was part of a staff that led us to unparalleled success - and a douchebag like you has no idea whether he was good or not. And you own idiotic posts demonstrate that better than I ever could.

  • Two words... Tim Biakabutuka. I have actually had nightmares about watching that game while my Notre Dame fan friends point and laugh at me. Absolutely horrible.

  • nvanhyfte said... (original post)

    Two words... Tim Biakabutuka. I have actually had nightmares about watching that game while my Notre Dame fan friends point and laugh at me. Absolutely horrible.

    I am sitting in a bar in the British Virgin Islands by myself, banging my head on the bar and muttering "fucking Biakabutuka".

    I am pretty sure the bartenders were trying to figure out what country I was from.

  • Urban_Meyer said... (original post)

    Really? You're still defending Bollman after he has been exposed as nothing more than a leech that rode the coattails of his friend Tressel to a job that he was unqualified for and was far overpaid for what he produced? The success of the offense under Tressel was all Tressel, this season made it obvious that Bollman was not a positive force during Tressel's tenure.

    And you hope that Urban can have the same offensive success that Tressel had? Are you nuts? Remember Urban has coached 3 teams that have all had great offenses, all the while running an offense that was decidedly not conservative. You sound like you've got something against Urban's offense or just have a hard on for Bollman's poorly-run offense.

    Thank you! Bollman coaching for Michigan would be my dream.

  • Urban_Meyer

    PhilaBuck said... (original post)

    Oh, no please don't call me a "homer". I would hate to be associated with actually rooting FOR the program that I am a fan of, instead of complaining about it all the time.

    Funny you should say a "kid playing Madden" because that is really all you NegaBucks are. Big kids getting on the internet to anonymously post things that you would never have the nerve to say to anyone associated with the program, pretending that you can sit on your sofa eating Cheetos and somehow know more about coaching than the staff that led OSU to one of its most successful decades.

    I have never said "Bollman was so great" or "awesome" - I said he was a part of a very successful staff and the supposedly conservative offense (which somehow wasnt in 2005 and 2006) delivered a great W-L result. Those are FACTS - everything you are spewing is opinion or speculation.

    Speaking of FACTS and dead wrong:

    At what point did Jim Bollman get demoted as OL coach? Link?

    So Bollman only gave OSU one first round draft pick and that is proof he stinks? During that same time did you know how many 1st round picks Iowa had? 2. Southern Cal? 2. Wisconsin? 2. Penn State? 1. Alabama? 2. LSU? Zero. Miami FL? 2 Florida State? 2. Florida 2. Is it just possible that your expectation of OL draft record is more rooted in fantasy league than real world? Have some more Cheetos son.

    Some more FACTS: During Bollman's terrible tenure there were 3 OL's who were 1st team all American, 1 OL who was 2nd team All-American, 9 1st team all-B10, 7 2nd team all-B10 and 3 Honorable mention all-Big 10. 9 OL players selected in the NFL draft.

    And we "had to have a mobile QB like Pryor or Miller" - wow, given the fact that Pryor was the #1 QB recruit and turned out to be the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl MVP and that Miller was the #2 ranked QB recruit and was the B10 Freshman of the year, I would say most folks think that playing them was a good thing.

    Your argument about Switzer or Coker might make sense - if Bollman hadnt been here 10 years. 10 years. So he was playing with a stocked locker room for 10 years?

    The rest of your post is so stupid that I can't even think how to respond - I listed how our whole offense was depleted of top performers for most of the year, and your response? It didn't matter. We lost our MVP QB, best RB, best WR, best OL, most of our other WRs and .....it didn't matter. Brilliant logic.

    And then you finish with "wins and losses don't matter as much as you want them to" - I suppose they don't when you are playing Madden. You just push a button and start over. But in the real world of CFB, what really matters is Wins and Losses.

    Bollman may or may not be a bad coach, but his "terrible" offense was part of a staff that led us to unparalleled success - and a douchebag like you has no idea whether he was good or not. And you own idiotic posts demonstrate that better than I ever could.

    Keep it up, maybe you can get your rep up to 3 stars! You just watch and see where Bollman ends up after this season. My guess is retirement (i.e. nobody else will hire him), but we'll see. He was part of a staff that was in part hired by Tressel so he could micromanage the offense without much interference and it showed when Tressel wasn't around. I haven't heard the term NegaBucks in quite a while, but only a toolbag homer like yourself would use that as a really pathetic attempt at an insult. It amazes me that there are still people who want to give him credit because he was brought in as a yes man. I'm at work right now so I'm restricted from doing much searching but I do know that Tressel did take over the offensive line coaching a few years back because they were doing so badly, I'm sure others remember that here as well.

    Anyway this is supposed to be a light-hearted thread so I'm not wasting any more time arguing with you about it. The fact that Bollman managed to turn nearly everyone in the fan base against him with his awful playcalling and lack of use of the tools he had should say enough by itself but you can feel free to keep thinking that he's some sort of genius simply because he associated with someone as great as Tressel. Defend him all you want but Bollman will be remembered as a yes man and an incompetent OC and o-line coach by the vast majority of Buckeye fans, and no matter of how many people you call negabucks or idiots will change that.

  • Urban_Meyer said... (original post)

    Keep it up, maybe you can get your rep up to 3 stars! You just watch and see where Bollman ends up after this season. My guess is retirement (i.e. nobody else will hire him), but we'll see. He was part of a staff that was in part hired by Tressel so he could micromanage the offense without much interference and it showed when Tressel wasn't around. I haven't heard the term NegaBucks in quite a while, but only a toolbag homer like yourself would use that as a really pathetic attempt at an insult. It amazes me that there are still people who want to give him credit because he was brought in as a yes man. I'm at work right now so I'm restricted from doing much searching but I do know that Tressel did take over the offensive line coaching a few years back because they were doing so badly, I'm sure others remember that here as well.

    Anyway this is supposed to be a light-hearted thread so I'm not wasting any more time arguing with you about it. The fact that Bollman managed to turn nearly everyone in the fan base against him with his awful playcalling and lack of use of the tools he had should say enough by itself but you can feel free to keep thinking that he's some sort of genius simply because he associated with someone as great as Tressel. Defend him all you want but Bollman will be remembered as a yes man and an incompetent OC and o-line coach by the vast majority of Buckeye fans, and no matter of how many people you call negabucks or idiots will change that.

    I neither care about ratings nor do i give up and down votes - they are irrelevant when the people rating only believe thier own imaginary facts - like you do.

    BTW - You will have to show some proof that Bollman was demoted as OL coach - having a bunch of you make up the same "fact" doesn't make it true. What you are "remembering" is that in 2008 after the USC debacle Tressel said he would become Bollman's "assistant" to fire up the OL - it was a one week thing. Not even close.

    I have NEVER said he was a genius - I have said:
    1) that his teams won a lot games, which you don't care about because you are like a little girl who watch football for the excitement. 2) You don't understand that there is a whole school of championship coaches who stress defense and not making mistakes on offense. and
    3) you think you know what happens inside the program because you and a bunch of know-it-alls on here all agree that it is happening.

    Based on nothing more than your opinions (because you haven't presented a fact yet) you condemn a guy who was on our staff for 10 great years. He might have been an average coach on a great team but to claim the whole fan base knows he was "incompetent" a "yes man", "overpaid" is nothing more than message board hot air from a group of self-annointed experts.

    I am pretty sure I invented the the term NegaBucks, but if it makes you feel better I won't use it and just call you a douchebag.

  • We keep Bollman and he becomes our offensive line recruiter. Mo Clarett and Pryor write a book together called, "How we got paid by agents and friends of the program"

  • Bergy4 said... (original post)

    Bauserman granted another year of eligibility, named starting QB.

    u win lol

  • bfbuckeye said... (original post)

    Brady Hoke in a Speedo.

    Brady Hoke in a maize an blue winged speedo lol