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  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    Don't mean to rain. Not at all. I'm one of those Gator fans that is fine w/ Urban moving on. You're getting a great coach, and he will put together a great staff. Just understand that Urban IS old-school with his philosophy. Getting an OC that takes risks is the key to getting him to open it up. He has to have trust in his players and his OC, otherwise you get: Tebow left, right, center.

    Fair enough! Then I hope that he brings in a dynamic, aggressive OC because I cannot bear to watch 3-10 more years of Tresselball. Maybe he can convince Studrawa, the LSU OC/OLC, to join his staff. I've watched LSU play a few times this season and have been impressed with how physical and agile the linemen are at the point of attack. Definitely would be an upgrade from Bollman on both counts.

  • TimBucktoo said... (original post)

    Fair enough! Then I hope that he brings in a dynamic, aggressive OC because I cannot bear to watch 3-10 more years of Tresselball. Maybe he can convince Studrawa, the LSU OC/OLC, to join his staff. I've watched LSU play a few times this season and have been impressed with how physical and agile the linemen are at the point of attack. Definitely would be an upgrade from Bollman on both counts.

    You will have it a LOT better than what you did under Tressle (as far as offense) as I have watched a lot of OSU games over the last several years (married to a Columbus gal). It's funny (to me--not so much to my wife) how many times OSU would have a lead, and I'd say 'game over' and she'd remind me no lead was safe w/ Tressel.

    This post was edited by skittlebrau 3 years ago

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    You will have it a LOT better than what you did under Tressle (as far as offense) as I have watched a lot of OSU games over the last several years (married to a Columbus gal). It's funny (to me--not so much to my wife) how many times OSU would have a lead, and I'd say 'game over' and she'd remind me no lead was safe w/ Tressel.

    I was in the same camp with your wife. In my opinion, Tressel did less with more and I was ecstatic to see him go -- even if the circumstances were not ideal. Cannot wait until September 2012.

    I wish more posters were like you. I appreciate that you bring actual dialogue instead of simply trying to rabble rouse and stir up the base.

  • TimBucktoo said... (original post)

    I was in the same camp with your wife. In my opinion, Tressel did less with more and I was ecstatic to see him go -- even if the circumstances were not ideal. Cannot wait until September 2012.

    I wish more posters were like you. I appreciate that you bring actual dialogue instead of simply trying to rabble rouse and stir up the base.

    Here's the ironic thing: ALL I DO is rabble rouse and stir it up w/ my wife!!! But man...since Meyer was clearly headed to OSU, she doesn't get bothered anymore as she knows that trumps anything I can say.

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    Here's the ironic thing: ALL I DO is rabble rouse and stir it up w/ my wife!!! But man...since Meyer was clearly headed to OSU, she doesn't get bothered anymore as she knows that trumps anything I can say.

    Smart Lady, knows her football and a Buckeye fan, your a lucky man. lol

  • BrownBuck82 said... (original post)

    I'd love to see Urban go for 2 everytime we score a Touchdown against Bret Bulemia and Fred Flinstone... hell even Fake a punt every time and get a first down... I'd love nothing more than a 80 - 0 waxing of Wisconsin and a 100 - 0 trashing of skunk weasel on Senior night next year

    BrownBuck not sure if you came up with Bret Bulemia, but i am dying laughing. I love it!

  • great2belucky said... (original post)

    Smart Lady, knows her football and a Buckeye fan, your a lucky man. lol

    Seriously, this is what she is buying our 2-year-old right this moment:

    http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Sports-Florida-Gators-Helmet/dp/B003XQN77Q/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=13225901

  • What do you think is the source of UF's current problems? Did Meyer leave the cupboard bare or are the new coaches not up to snuff?

    "Buckeye born and bred, a Buckeye 'til I'm dead"

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    Seriously, this is what she is buying our 2-year-old right this moment:

    http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Sports-Florida-Gators-Helmet/dp/B003XQN77Q/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=13225901

    What do you think is the source of UF's current problems? Did Meyer leave the cupboard bare or are the new coaches not up to snuff?

    "Buckeye born and bred, a Buckeye 'til I'm dead"

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    Seriously, this is what she is buying our 2-year-old right this moment:

    http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Sports-Florida-Gators-Helmet/dp/B003XQN77Q/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=13225901

    Bah.....guess your still ok, little ones are fun eh? Started my 3 year old young also. lol

  • BrownBuck82 said... (original post)

    I'd love to see Urban go for 2 everytime we score a Touchdown against Bret Bulemia and Fred Flinstone... hell even Fake a punt every time and get a first down... I'd love nothing more than a 80 - 0 waxing of Wisconsin and a 100 - 0 trashing of skunk weasel on Senior night next year

    I would love that too. It'd be great to go to Madison and shut the mouths of those loudmouth losers. OSU hasn't won in Madison for a while so it'd be great to see them put up 50 on them.

  • So...if you want to get an idea of how Urban is going to handle next season, and specifically his practices, take a look at this video. Wow. Get ready to go to work team!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1ep8sNTSI

    Urban Meyer

    Brutally Honest - Orange and Blue game

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1ep8sNTSI

    This post was edited by CalSean 3 years ago

    "There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    You will have it a LOT better than what you did under Tressle (as far as offense) as I have watched a lot of OSU games over the last several years (married to a Columbus gal). It's funny (to me--not so much to my wife) how many times OSU would have a lead, and I'd say 'game over' and she'd remind me no lead was safe w/ Tressel.

    So true. We were KILLING Arkansas in the first half then he decided to just punt the ball every time instead of trying to score and let them back in the game. We almost lost because of how little they did on offense in the 2nd half. I doubt you'll see Meyer do any of that until he's up by 50. I don't really like the idea of running up the score on people...unless it's Michigan, PSU or Wisconsin.

  • miguelissimo said... (original post)

    What do you think is the source of UF's current problems? Did Meyer leave the cupboard bare or are the new coaches not up to snuff?

    My own opinion: I think it's that Meyer did leave behind a team lacking depth (he undersigned the last two classes--and they both lost players due to various issues (playing time, homesick, injury, getting kicked off, etc...) but still populated with talent (esp. on defense: Elam, Floyd, Easley, etc...)). The train wreck that became the Gators was the former issue (lack of depth) meeting up with the second issue: switching from spread to pro-set. Last year UF was pathetic on offense, and they were running the same one that had been using the previous years! So trying to run a new offense with new coaches this year was simply not going to fly.

    Some of the coaches may or may not be the right fit either, but you really just don't know until you get 'your guys' running 'your system'. I believe Will Muschamp IS a great hire, and HC in the making. He learned from Saban, Miles, and Mack Brown. Hell, he was coach in waiting at Texas, which is 1-2-3 (along w/ UF and OSU sports departments).

    And as much as I loved Brantley for sticking it out, he's simply not a good QB. He cannot run, but beyond that, he's just not a big gamer: I maybe only saw him make a play out of a busted play once, maybe twice. Tebow. Shoot. You could take the air out of the ball, steal the playcall, and kick sand in our faces but he'd make a play. Don't forget, Cam was at UF and oh how things may have turned out differently....

    UF is at 72 scholarship players (3 of which are walk-ons given schollys after hard work). Think about that. That is like being on major probation for 2 - 3 years.

    Again, I'm happy for Meyer, but he knew he was facing a rebuild at UF, and simply looked in the mirror and knew he was burned out & didn't have the energy to tough it out at that time. He didn't screw over UF, wasn't a coward, just let himself & the team get too thin and the problems were passed to the next staff.

  • great2belucky said... (original post)

    Bah.....guess your still ok, little ones are fun eh? Started my 3 year old young also. lol

    We have the 2 year old (he's MY GATOR) and a 4 mo. old daughter.

  • CalSean said... (original post)

    So...if you want to get an idea of how Urban is going to handle next season, and specifically his practices, take a look at this video. Wow. Get ready to go to work team!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1ep8sNTSI

    I like the looks of this. I remember hearing on the radio about how his first practices were when taking over. They had their conditioning workouts in the gym. He had trash cans by the door for them to throw up in and leave if they wanted but if they left they were gone. I heard Lou Holtz did the same thing when he first showed up at Notre Dame. His first couple of workouts had everyone on the field puking.

    I like Meyer's passion and intensity. We didn't see much of that from Tressel and I think under Meyer it'll be a totally different level. I like that he calls people out when they make mistakes. I think he'll make OSU tougher and much more physical. I hope the players are ready. After the first couple years, you didn't hear anything about how tough Meyer was on his players because they won. Hopefully he can give the OSU players an agressive (but not stupid like Suh) attitude that wants to absolutely BREAK their opponents.

    I can't wait for the season to start now!!!!!!!!!

  • jaxfloridabuck said... (original post)

    So true. We were KILLING Arkansas in the first half then he decided to just punt the ball every time instead of trying to score and let them back in the game. We almost lost because of how little they did on offense in the 2nd half. I doubt you'll see Meyer do any of that until he's up by 50. I don't really like the idea of running up the score on people...unless it's Michigan, PSU or Wisconsin.

    If you're in Jacksonville-my hometown, where my parents + bro/sis-in-law live-then I hear there's a huge Buckeye club that gathers for games. That HAS to be fun...about the same as me wearing my UF stuff in Columbus.

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    My own opinion: I think it's that Meyer did leave behind a team lacking depth (he undersigned the last two classes--and they both lost players due to various issues (playing time, homesick, injury, getting kicked off, etc...) but still populated with talent (esp. on defense: Elam, Floyd, Easley, etc...)). The train wreck that became the Gators was the former issue (lack of depth) meeting up with the second issue: switching from spread to pro-set. Last year UF was pathetic on offense, and they were running the same one that had been using the previous years! So trying to run a new offense with new coaches this year was simply not going to fly.

    Some of the coaches may or may not be the right fit either, but you really just don't know until you get 'your guys' running 'your system'. I believe Will Muschamp IS a great hire, and HC in the making. He learned from Saban, Miles, and Mack Brown. Hell, he was coach in waiting at Texas, which is 1-2-3 (along w/ UF and OSU sports departments).

    And as much as I loved Brantley for sticking it out, he's simply not a good QB. He cannot run, but beyond that, he's just not a big gamer: I maybe only saw him make a play out of a busted play once, maybe twice. Tebow. Shoot. You could take the air out of the ball, steal the playcall, and kick sand in our faces but he'd make a play. Don't forget, Cam was at UF and oh how things may have turned out differently....

    UF is at 72 scholarship players (3 of which are walk-ons given schollys after hard work). Think about that. That is like being on major probation for 2 - 3 years.

    Again, I'm happy for Meyer, but he knew he was facing a rebuild at UF, and simply looked in the mirror and knew he was burned out & didn't have the energy to tough it out at that time. He didn't screw over UF, wasn't a coward, just let himself & the team get too thin and the problems were passed to the next staff.

    I'm not sure it's all Brantley's fault. Their offensive line couldn't block a fart. Those RBs are too small to be an effective running team, especially behind that line. Their defense is pretty good but that offense is so bad it's unbelievable.

    I think Meyer did leave the cupboard empty here but I think it also had to do with the fact that the SEC got better and UF didn't. I also think they lost the swagger they had when they knew they were going to win. Also, Muschamp was probably not a good choice for them and Charlie Weis is also not the answer. They had a lot of things working against them. I don't think Urban could have done any better with this team though. They were definitely down in the talent department this year. I don't see that getting any better either to be honest.

    Maybe OSU could hire Zook as their recruiting coordinator. He was a lousy coach but a good guy and could recruit like nobody's business!

  • I doubt its true but I like the thoughts of it. Regardless, Im pretty sure the team meeting was prety intense and made them want to get better and play a game that day. Things are certainly looking up.

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    If you're in Jacksonville-my hometown, where my parents + bro/sis-in-law live-then I hear there's a huge Buckeye club that gathers for games. That HAS to be fun...about the same as me wearing my UF stuff in Columbus.

    There is although I stay home. The BW3s on Baymeadows looks like it's in Columbus on gameday. They even have an OSU banner in there on a permanent basis. It's all about business and making money.

    Quite a few people like me who have migrated south to get away from the cold. I got frostbite on my feet when I was in the Army in Germany and even though it's 60 here today, my feet are still cold. I miss Ohio in the summers but NOT in the winter.

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    great2belucky said... (original post)

    "i want to score 100 point on every f*cking team! i dont care what any coach or media person says, we're going to destroy everyone we play"

    allegedly this is what he told the players. no idea how true it is, i sure hope so though

    time to add a third digit on that scoreboard

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    My own opinion: I think it's that Meyer did leave behind a team lacking depth (he undersigned the last two classes--and they both lost players due to various issues (playing time, homesick, injury, getting kicked off, etc...) but still populated with talent (esp. on defense: Elam, Floyd, Easley, etc...)). The train wreck that became the Gators was the former issue (lack of depth) meeting up with the second issue: switching from spread to pro-set. Last year UF was pathetic on offense, and they were running the same one that had been using the previous years! So trying to run a new offense with new coaches this year was simply not going to fly.

    Some of the coaches may or may not be the right fit either, but you really just don't know until you get 'your guys' running 'your system'. I believe Will Muschamp IS a great hire, and HC in the making. He learned from Saban, Miles, and Mack Brown. Hell, he was coach in waiting at Texas, which is 1-2-3 (along w/ UF and OSU sports departments).

    And as much as I loved Brantley for sticking it out, he's simply not a good QB. He cannot run, but beyond that, he's just not a big gamer: I maybe only saw him make a play out of a busted play once, maybe twice. Tebow. Shoot. You could take the air out of the ball, steal the playcall, and kick sand in our faces but he'd make a play. Don't forget, Cam was at UF and oh how things may have turned out differently....

    UF is at 72 scholarship players (3 of which are walk-ons given schollys after hard work). Think about that. That is like being on major probation for 2 - 3 years.

    Again, I'm happy for Meyer, but he knew he was facing a rebuild at UF, and simply looked in the mirror and knew he was burned out & didn't have the energy to tough it out at that time. He didn't screw over UF, wasn't a coward, just let himself & the team get too thin and the problems were passed to the next staff.

    huh????????????...Meyer is inheriting a team of freshman and sophs.....he don't give a crap about rebuilding....TOSU was 6-6 ,what Universe are u from?...sounds like another Hater on this Board

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    Don't mean to rain. Not at all. I'm one of those Gator fans that is fine w/ Urban moving on. You're getting a great coach, and he will put together a great staff. Just understand that Urban IS old-school with his philosophy. Getting an OC that takes risks is the key to getting him to open it up. He has to have trust in his players and his OC, otherwise you get: Tebow left, right, center.

    You have no idea how happy "some" of us Buckeye fans were to even have the hope of getting an offensive mind like Urban Meyer for head coach. Tressel was a great coach but the offensive gameplan was beyond frustrating. Running on every first and second down, crap pass play and punt was something we got tired of seeing. Tressel was an amazing coach but offense was what he really lacked in. This past year was icing on the cake for the majority of us to want someone who could put points up on the board. I can't wait for the finished project

  • skittlebrau said... (original post)

    Seriously, this is what she is buying our 2-year-old right this moment:

    http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Sports-Florida-Gators-Helmet/dp/B003XQN77Q/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=13225901

    Probably just wants to keep you happy! cheers

  • tommyq said... (original post)

    huh????????????...Meyer is inheriting a team of freshman and sophs.....he don't give a crap about rebuilding....TOSU was 6-6 ,what Universe are u from?...sounds like another Hater on this Board

    I don't think you read me correctly, or read any of the other stuff I posted. Meyer is clearly up to the challenge NOW, but he wasn't at the time at UF. As I positioned it, that is how he left UF then--not where his mind set is now.

    He also sees the task ahead at OSU as much less then a massive rebuild (i.e. his comments about broken vs. not-broken programs in his address yesterday).

    And as jaxfloridabuck mentioned--but I didn't go into--the SEC, and in particular, the SEC West had caught up to Meyer and his system. It's a cyclical thing, and the pendulum swung from spread/offense-oriented teams back to smash-mouth/physical play. That's not to say Meyer's system wouldn't have worked again at UF, it would've, but it would've taken a rebuilding process after losing a LOT of guys that were starters/contributors in '06 and '08, and just as important: finding coaches that were as good as Mullen, Strong, Mattison, etc...

    Not here to hate, so don't get offended. I just offered my opinion when I was asked. I am a Gator that appreciates Meyer and will always consider him a Gator great--and is also happy for him at OSU. Just as long as he keeps his hands off of any recruits UF desperately needs.