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Bearbuck said...
This thread is hilarious.
I mean seriously. Does anyone remember the predictions last season? Some things I remember hearing were:
"this team has way too much talent and will win the B1G Ten easily"
"this team will go at worst 10-2 but more than likely will go 11-1"
....that's just to name a couple. Everyone's expectations last season were just flat out ridiculous. Yet here they are again.....why? What on earth makes anyone think this? Because we now have Urban Meyer? Because Luke Fickell and Mike Vrabel were bad coaches and it was entirely the coaching staff's fault this team went 6-7 last season?
Well if that's the case....why did Urban Meyer keep both Fickell and Vrabel? I know what a lot of people are going to say...that Jim Bollman is the reason due to poor coaching and play calling. Which I'm not denying is largely true. But it certainly isn't the reason our defense performed the way it did......so why aren't people bashing Vrabel? Or Heacock?
I'm not at all trying to stomp on anyone's enthusiasm. I am just as excited to see what changes are going to take place and how this team is going to look. I think they will be good....really really good. Especially 2 years from now.
It's completely possible this team could go 10-2! Hokey Pokey is proof of that and anyone would be out of their mind at this point to think Hoke is even comparable to Meyer. Just look at the resumes'.
But it's not realistic to think that out of the gate. We haven't even seen this team under the new regime and regime changes are tough. Urban Meyer did not win 10 games his 1st season at Florida...and it's highly un-likely he'll do it here.
I will be extremely happy if this team wins 8 or more games this season. Anything beyond that and this team will have completely over-achieved and not only that.....they will have a wonderful future ahead of them!
IMO 2013 is the season.....NC! Meyer did it in his 2nd year at Florida and he'll do it his 2nd year here as well.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Razorback on 1/26/2012 at 9:17 AM
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Razorback said...
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised this year. The level of failure that Bollman, Siciliano, Fickell (as the head coach), and whoever was coaching special teams exhibited was virtually unprecedented in my lifetime here as an OSU fan. This team had no leadership, incompetent gameplanning, particularly on the offensive side of the ball, awful personnel decisions starting with Fickell & Bollman, and even with all the talent we had the errors by the coaching staff was just too much to overcome. I'm not expecting to go undefeated this year or anything, but 7-5 would be a failure just as 6-7 this past year was a failure. I don't expect it to happen now that we have a competent head coach, and a competent offensive coaching staff. This team will also be rid of last year's senior class and will hopefully gel more together.
And just to add -- I was certainly one of those you refer to who expected somewhere around 10 wins last year, and I stand by that. We had the talent. I (and I imagine many others) simply did not expect our coaching staff to be SO bad at their jobs that they would let this team lose 7 games. It's just out of this world bad in terms of job performance. And in fairness the bad coaching was mostly on the offensive side of the ball. I can name 3-4 games easily that we would've won had we had even a smidge of competence on the offensive coaching staff. This is the reason many of the coaches were fired when Urban came in here.
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Bearbuck said...
My prediction last year was 7-5 or 8-4. Boy was I wrong.
I do understand what you're saying Razor.....and to an extent I agree. But I knew without a doubt that with a true freshman QB.....losing 3 games last season was guaranteed regardless of coaching. That's just one position. Couple that with a very in-experienced receiving corp and.....an offensive line that has under-performed since 2006 I don't understand even to this day some of the expectations people had last season.
But for me a more realistic prediction for this year would be 9-3. I'd rather error on the side of caution. People start shouting 10-2 and or undefeated...and then when it doesn't happen...they'll be whining and crying for someone to get canned. It's just they way things go.....
So for me....it will be a nice, wonderful surprise to be completely wrong.
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Razorback said...
CAN we? Absolutely. We COULD go 12-0. We could've gone 12-0 last year based on the fact we had more talent than every team we played with the exception of Florida. The question is WILL WE. I think it will come down to how quickly our offense picks up Meyer's system. If they pick it up quick we will win at least 10 games IMO with a couple of losses simply due to kinks being worked out in the system. Make no mistake -- we have more talent than every team we will play in 2012. No question. Now that we have a competent coaching staff as will as some of the even bigger talent coming in this year, things are looking really good.
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16_Marty said...
I actually am willing to not pay attention to our record next year as much as I want to just get excited about each game and the new coaching staff. I want to see each game this offense getting stronger and efficient and on defense the aggressiveness bringing back the swagger. 6-6 last year was painful, but to me the biggest disappointment in the team and the coaches was very little growth from the opening game to the Florida game.
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McCague said...
I will predict right now that OSU will go 12-0 next year and cause an uproar if they do not win the AP NC. No mercy, no prisoners - Meyer and company will pillage and plunder, mark it down.
Pretty much the same team as last year minus some fat offensive linemen. Does anyone believe Meyer and this year's coaching staff would not have won at least 11 games last year, considering all they would have had to do is throw a pass on first down every now and then.
Seriously, the only team with a QB next year is scUM, and he can't pass (and possibly Illinois). Go back and review each game and add just a modicum of offense. And against Miami we didn't have a QB for 3 quarters. Even with Fickell and Bollman Braxton would have been ready for Miami and the Big 10 had he started those first games to gain the much-needed experience Bollman said he was lacking - duh.
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Tressman1 said...
Why wouldn't we go at least 10-2. There is a load of talent returning. Last year's freshman class was absolutely stacked and now they are sophmores. The D-line returns plus a healthy Williams. Plus the schedule is as weak as it has ever been. We should be favored in at least 11 games and maybe all.
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DOES ANYONE THINK WE CAN GO 10-2 NEXT YEAR OR BETTER