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Michigan has 11 commitments in the top 150! Before its all said and done Hoke will probably add 3-4 more which would be 14-15. For perspective in last years class the highest total was 12 by Alabama which means Michigan could just sit idle and end up with an incredible class.

Yes, their rankings are always super out of the ordinary. Ive never seen Woodard ranked so high. Not, that it matters bc hes a really good player no matter where they rank him.

How could you not care? Its the biggest rivalry in college football and there are 2-3 threads about Michigan and Hoke on here daily.. If I had a nickel for every time I read that OSU was going after the "elite" and that Michigan was getting lower rated recruits, I would be rich by now. Im not trying to be disrespectful but just trying to shed some light on this fallacy perpetuated here. As a Michigan fan I have no problem acknowledging the greatness of the OSU program and pointing out that Meyer will land an elite recruiting class but its just fanatical the way the obvious truth gets spun around here in regards to Hoke and Michigan. There is no doubt in my mind that OSU and Michigan are going to dominate the B1G ten going forward, just as they have in the past.
I come here to learn about OSU and its football program beacause its very relevent to me as a Michigan fan, these programs are linked in a way that can never be overlooked. I have a wealth of information about the Michigan program if you guys ever have questions, I would be more than willing to share.

This is what im refering to, exactly what was the drivel? Is the criteria anything thats not rah rah, Michigan sucks!! Hoke is fat..LULZ!! is drivel..lmao

This board has some objective and intelligent posters who bring articulate and well reasoned opinions and theories to the board. You could learn a thing or two from them. Dont be a coconut

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In all seriousness there seems little doubt that Michigan is going to become Alabama's LSU, not on the same talent level but good enough to challenge and put an L in our season every once in a while.

Shouldn't Michigan have to dominate the B1G at least once in recent memory before they can claim it will be a 2-headed race?

I wasnt saying that Michigan wasnt getting good recruits and OSU is going after the best of the best. Im just saying, this is the OSU board and we discuss OSU things here. I posted commenting on OSU's class and targets because I wanted to discuss them and not Michigan's class.

If you want to comment on our commits and targets, go right ahead.

I'm all for honesty but honesty starts with "transparency," i.e., who you claim to be matches, in fact, who you actually are.

And as far as your transparency is concerned, who you are and who you claim to be are a contradiction: you've had 112 posts and far and away, the VAST majority of them have been on either our board or MSU's board, which means a) you have nothing to contribute that's considered meaningful by your own kind, and b) you're allegedly here to champion the contrarian point-of-view when, in fact, your real goal is to cause trouble. That's how we define "troll." My kids may not be the world's most beautiful to the rest of the world but they are to me and no one comes into MY house and disrespects me and my family by calling them ugly. If you do, get ready to rumble!

You are welcome to be here. It's a free board. Just enter at your own peril. Forewarned is forearmed.

When you're #2, you naturally compare yourself to #1. It's a strategy for making up ground. Look at the Republicans--as Romney built his lead, they all started to attack him. scUM aspires to make the B1G a 2-horse race again because they've been irrelevant for a long time. And they should. To compete with us, they have to rise up to our level. And do it consistently. By comparing themselves to us, they begin to believe they are worthy of us.

But we don't have to lower ourselves to their level. When you're #1, acknowledging #2 as a competitor means validating them. As Romney pulled away, he ignored Santorum and Gingrich like they were irritable little lapdogs nipping at his heels and began focusing his message against the big dog, Obama. They became irrelevant as he created separation and set his sights higher. scUM is a competitor one week a year. They warrant the same respect and attention as Indiana and Purdue. We have bigger fish to fry the other 51 weeks and during that time, scUM's barely a pimple on our elephant-sized ass.

For us to get better, it means a) not letting scUM catch up, and b) we have to set the bar higher. If we are Romney (to scUM's lovable loser Santorum and Beliema's grinchy Gingrich), Bama is our Obama. LSU is our Obama. Anyone competing for NCs is our Obama. THAT'S our competition, not scUM, not Wisconsin. That doesn't mean we don't respect them on the field but that we don't acknowledge them as our peers off it.

This isn't about dominating the B1G; we've been there, done that. Mission accomplished in spades. Urban's goal from here on out is becoming relevant on the national level; it's about competing for--and winning--national championships. To do that, winning the B1G becomes paramount but also second nature. That's the program Urban is building. We may not always understand his methods or his madness, but we should respect that is his mission.