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IMHO, it doesn't seem like he can be charged with murder. Maybe some lesser charge. Besides, with all the misinformation coming out from the left and right, we will never get all the facts in the case without some sort of b.s. spin.
It was a bad situation all the way around.

I don't know what the special prosecutor found but I am assuming she determined either there was enough evidence to charge Zimmerman and go to trial or at the very least, there wasn't enough physical/forensic evidence to prove that he didn't murder Martin and enough circumstantial evidence to suggest maybe he did. Sort of the reverse of reasonable doubt, which is ultimately for a jury to decide.

But if she's going to go to trial, it has to be because she thinks she can win, i.e., she can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zimmeriman murdered Martin. It has all the intrigue and mystery of a CSI episode during sweeps week. And once again, race relations in America will be brought front and center and put on trial. I'm assuming most minorities will side with the victim because they've probably all been racially profiled at some point, while most white Americans will side with Zimmerman; fortunately, Justice is blind (or at least she's supposed to be). In any event, this is about two strangers whose paths crossed one dark, rainy night, felt threatened by each other and now one's dead and the other one's on trial.

I can't see the special prosecutor doing it out of political correctness to cover her ass. Trials like this cost millions of dollars in taxpayer money. There's an accountability issue that at the end of the day, whether he's found guilty or not guilty, people will decide if it was worth it. I just hope the state does a better job of getting to the truth than it did with Casey Anthony.

G2B:

My man. My homey. You and I have had our run-ins from time to time, so I ain't gonna start with you on this as this one is REAL!

I have to tell you dude that you are wrong as hell on this one if you feel this is horseshit.
Not really clear to me how you can feel that doing the right thing is essentially worthless as shit?

I am perplexed by your comments.

Dude all that anyone has EVER asked for was an arrest, a fair investigation INTO THE FACTS and then
a trial! So why are you losing your cool?

You stated that..."if there is a trial that's fine", so why are you flipping the frack out and posting this drivel?
Dude we are essentially saying the same things. But for some reason you are bothered.

I don't get it?

Dude let's be honest. Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson have done MORE for the community than you ever will, so you need to just simmer down and pay them their respects. Just because it may not benefit you, doesn't mean that their isn't value in their actions.

And yes, I want the truth too, so again we are saying the same things but mine doesn't have the piss and vinegar contained within your post on the subject. We won't know the truth until their is an "official" investigation, a deposition, testimony and currently unknown forensic data introduced.

Now why again are you so upset with this move? Why is this "horseshit"?

You got a TON of growing to do my man and sorry to be the one to break it to you. Your snap of anger in posting this says more about YOU than it does about J. Jackson or Al Sharpton.

If we're all being honest, then lets be very honest shall we. Sharpton and Jackson have 'done more for THEMSELVES' than anything else. If you want to wave that banner you should start with W.E.B. DuBois, he actually knew what he was talking about and could do so without making a spectacle of both himself and his race. Don't throw in with those two self promoting blowhards.

One thing that bothers me is that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson love the fact that they can have a perceived purpose if racism is a possiblitly in any case. I find it interesting that they seem to promote racism to justify their existance. If not what would they do. This crime is tragic but none of us know the facts. It is irresponsible for anyone to draw conclusions on this case based on race. I truly feel that if anyone does they are racist themselves. Lets hope that facts can be found to see what actually took place but unfortunately none of this will reduce the tradegy of this event. If everytime a crime is committed we judge it by the race of the ones involved and predetermine it was a hate crime we are only adding fuel to the fire.

Zimmerman had to be charged regardless of his guilt or innocence due to the public uproar. Plain and simple.

If we are talking about the shooting of an unarmed teen, exactly why are Al and Jesse involved in this ?

I noticed that the "special" prosecutor is also using the photo of the alleged victim from when he was a 12 yr old! Interesting... court of public opinion, maybe.

better hope they find him guilty or else there will be rioting !!!!!!!

I don't care if BuckNasty was lavender, doesn't make a bit of difference to me. We are all proud men of color, he happens to be a proud black man, I'm a proud white man.

Can we really depend on the judicial system to get this right though ? They should have put Casey Anthony on death row and look where she's at !

I just feel that guys like Sharpton and Jackson put undue stress on a case that has absolutely nothing to do with them. They could cause more harm to this case than good......these high profile men putting this case on "blast", how are you ever going to find a neutral jury ?

Best statement I've read yet. +1

Nothing has been set forth yet to justify this kid getting shot. The shooter was a trigger happy wannabe cop with a history of violence.

These carry and conceal laws are ridiculous. There should be an outcry form everyone, white or black, that a kid lost his life for no reason except he was stereotyped by the shooter.

Please show me something to the contrary.

Actually, if the cops had just done their jobs, this wouldn't have made national news. This was stereotyping from the shooter through law enforcement, and that's a fucking autrocity in today's day and age.

I tell you what, I'd rather take my chances in a court of law than in a chat room. And I am well aware of the miscarriage of justice that (I believe) was the Casey Anthony trial, which is why I mentioned her and tongue-in-cheek posted her picture in Devier Posey's jersey in my initial post. But if we don't have a legal system, even one that's imperfect, what's the alternative? Vigilantism? Street justice? Lynching people from lamp posts?

Winston Churchill once said of democracy (and thus by extension, its judicial system), "It isn't perfect but it sure as hell beats anything else we've come up with so far."

And I'm not a man of color unless I'm sunburned. I have never claimed nor has anyone ever called me or any other white guy I know a "man of color" and that's because we, as a race, have never experienced racial prejudice, stereotyping and discrimination on the level that Blacks, Asians, Native Americans and Hispanics have. A cop's never pulled me over for "Driving While White" through an upscale neighborhood. Caucasians have been the perpetrators of centuries of injustice, maybe even millenniums going far back into Biblical times when the Romans ruled the world. I cannot even begin to imagine the kind of abuse true people of color have had to endure through history, and even now.

Race lies at the base of this case. A young black man was shot and killed by a young white man. If it had been a black shooting another black or a white shooting another white, yeah, I agree--no big deal. But if had been the black guy (Martin) shooting the white guy (Zimmerman), I believe there would be a much different kind of uproar, which would be whites using it as an excuse to justify arming themselves to protect their neighborhoods. In other words, justice would be taking a step backward toward frontier vigilantism.

This is a case of role reversal, a white man accused of murdering a black man, and it's got a lot of people scared. Blacks and whites have not cornered the market on the kind of fear and outrage this matter will stir up. It is also much more than a murder trial--I believe the Constitutional right to bear arms is going to be dragged through the mud, too.

I've said all I intend to say on this matter. As far as I am concerned, I am putting the pin back in the grenade because nothing good is going to come from this thread.