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TritonBuck said...
I thought it was interesting that Big 10 had only four players picked in first round...and it wasn't until the 23rd pick that a Big Ten player was selected. Wow don't know what that says about the talent in the league..but Alabama alone tied Big Ten with 4 picks. Oh well hope the Big 10 and OSU is better represented in round 2 and above.
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Chuman said...
This means that the talent stayed and will help the B1G this year.
It's like saying that SEC was the best College Basketball conference- Nope. They had Kentucky. That's it. Even though that f-ing team has all 5 starters leave, and will be drafted early doesn't mean that that conference was good.
Bama had a awesome team. One of the best defenses I have scene in a long while. This really doesn't mean that the talent level in the B1G was bad.
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iowabuckeyes said...
Things like this are often cyclical. The SEC is the hot league and has been for a while. It had 9 first round picks but national champion Alabama had 4 of them. The B1G had 4; Big 12 had 5; ACC 3; Big East 2 (and both from schools that are leaving); Pac-12 had 4; C-USA 1; Boise 2; and Notre Dame 2. So really, aside from Alabama's dominance, the SEC was on par with the other BCS conferences. I'm more concerned about the regional breakdown with only 11 of the 32 coming from traditionalist "cold weather" states.
Where was Texas? Oregon? Georgia? Florida? Oklahoma?
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dmagnus1 said...
This is not cyclical. No more so than the demographic shift in population is "cyclical". The southeast, TX, and SoCal are the big winners in population growth, and the underlying collegiate infrastructure has not changed - there are few, if any, universities that weren't there a generation or two ago (USF and UCF are exceptions). There is simply a bigger pool of recruits to draw from, and that's not changing until global warming raises sea levels, dries up fresh water supplies, and generally makes the south less habitable. Google "African American demographic map" and look were black families are living. It is in the southeast. The percentage of elite HS and college FB players who are white is continuing the same type of downhill trend that you saw 30 years ago in basketball. We are now seeing black kids becoming elite QBs - a position that some thought would NEVER be open to them in the South, and within a generation the "white QB" will have gone the way of the "white WR" and the "white RB". There are always going to be a few good ones out there, but not in numbers. These are demographic realities. The only hope the Big Ten has in making up ground against the SEC (and the ACC of the future) is by recruiting OUTSIDE of the north. That is what Urban Meyer is trying to do. Tressel wanted to lock down Ohio. Meyer sees that as a prescription for failure.
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dmagnus1 said...
This is not cyclical. No more so than the demographic shift in population is "cyclical". The southeast, TX, and SoCal are the big winners in population growth, and the underlying collegiate infrastructure has not changed - there are few, if any, universities that weren't there a generation or two ago (USF and UCF are exceptions). There is simply a bigger pool of recruits to draw from, and that's not changing until global warming raises sea levels, dries up fresh water supplies, and generally makes the south less habitable. Google "African American demographic map" and look were black families are living. It is in the southeast. The percentage of elite HS and college FB players who are white is continuing the same type of downhill trend that you saw 30 years ago in basketball. We are now seeing black kids becoming elite QBs - a position that some thought would NEVER be open to them in the South, and within a generation the "white QB" will have gone the way of the "white WR" and the "white RB". There are always going to be a few good ones out there, but not in numbers. These are demographic realities. The only hope the Big Ten has in making up ground against the SEC (and the ACC of the future) is by recruiting OUTSIDE of the north. That is what Urban Meyer is trying to do. Tressel wanted to lock down Ohio. Meyer sees that as a prescription for failure.
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duccivespucci_2 said...
What concerns me more is the lack of Ohio St. players in this draft. We had top 10 recruiting classes, tells me there has been developmental issues in the second half of the Tressel era. The first 5-6 years the drafts were loaded with Buckeye's. Lately 4-5 years has been a few here and there. I think that points out to the coaching staff, Tressel lost a lot of great coaches off of his first staff's, and I think everybody got comfortable in their roll and didn't work as hard as they should except some of the 3 star guys. I think that's natural and normal human behavior, it's happening for sure in Texas under Mack Brown. Talk about great recruiting classes, but really haven't produced much of anything special for the draft. It happened to Florida St, and others. So we'll see what Meyer does, he started to get comfortable at Florida under him his last 2 years. This is certainly not a bash on Tressel and staff, just pointing out some natural human elements.
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odan rot said...
From an OSU perspective it makes you question the recruiting rankings from Pryor's year. I think we were top 3 in most ranking services. But, look where the players are going. Pryor would have been a 2nd round pick if he came out this year, Adams is a 2nd rounder and that is it. Brewster looks like he will be taken 4th round and beyond.
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This is not cyclical. No more so than the demographic shift in population is "cyclical". The southeast, TX, and SoCal are the big winners in population growth, and the underlying collegiate infrastructure has not changed - there are few, if any, universities that weren't there a generation or two ago (USF and UCF are exceptions). There is simply a bigger pool of recruits to draw from, and that's not changing until global warming raises sea levels, dries up fresh water supplies, and generally makes the south less habitable. Google "African American demographic map" and look were black families are living. It is in the southeast. The percentage of elite HS and college FB players who are white is continuing the same type of downhill trend that you saw 30 years ago in basketball. We are now seeing black kids becoming elite QBs - a position that some thought would NEVER be open to them in the South, and within a generation the "white QB" will have gone the way of the "white WR" and the "white RB". There are always going to be a few good ones out there, but not in numbers. These are demographic realities. The only hope the Big Ten has in making up ground against the SEC (and the ACC of the future) is by recruiting OUTSIDE of the north. That is what Urban Meyer is trying to do. Tressel wanted to lock down Ohio. Meyer sees that as a prescription for failure.
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