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iowabuckeyes said...
Now I get it. Just read your post on "Urban, we have a problem." You're an Urban Meyer fan. Like I said at the top of my Chucky post, I am too, and then I went on to say why I don't think he'll come to OSU. If I'm wrong, I'll post an apology of the "Man, it's hot as hell in here" board to you.
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SarasotaBuckeye said...
Why is everyone so in love with Gruden? I live down here in Sarasota, just south of Tampa, and he destroyed the buccaneers. He took Dungy's players and won the SB, then proceeded to take TB back to the yuccaneer days. Make all the excuses you want for him, but I've seen his game day coaching ability, and it's still not good. Fickell has had a much tougher hand dealt him than Gruden ever had, and I still think he'll have a winnig season. What's Gruden's overal record. I don't know, but it can't be much over .500. Tell me something, what's the first thing a new coach always does? Hire his own staff. Fickell didn't have that opportunity, and now we're still dealing with Bollman as OC. I've watched Gruden coach. He's not any good. He's not a head coach. Hire him for OC, but please, not head coach.
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brunsjar said...
Like every big hire at any university, a committee is assembled to hire the person. Usually an outside consulting firm is hired to provide a list of coaches that might be interested. They are also used to send out unofficial feelers to see if these coaches are interested. A series of interviews are conducted and then the committee decides. Some hiring committees are truly diplomatic and come to a unanimous decision for the hire. Other committees will take the input but ultimately it will lie with one or 2 people. At OSU I assume it will be the later with Smith/Gee giving the ultimate nod. That is of course with the understanding that Wexner and the rest of the major benefactors are okay with the decision.
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iowabuckeyes said...
Mayer: I'd stand up and cheer his hiring as much as the next guy but I honestly don't see it happening. He just got out of coaching citing health and family reasons...for the second time. Why jump back in after only 1 year out? He's said the only jobs his wife can't veto are ND, Michigan and OSU. He could have had either of the first two if he'd wanted them but passed; that leaves only OSU. Why should we be any different?
Pelini: I'm OK snaking one of Wisconsin's assistant hockey coaches as our head coach but I don't like the idea of purging another B1G 10 school for our football coach. That's a world turned upside down for me. The pecking order works this way: they're supposed to hire our assistants to be their head coaches. And I'm not sure Pelini would go or that Osborne would let him go. He's got it pretty good in Lincoln right now. Unlike Ohio, which has eight FBS schools and lots of divided loyalties, the ENTIRE state of Nebraska worships Husker football and Belini's their head priest. I don't want to get snubbed like Miles did to Michigan twice or Parcells did to Tampa Bay. Hopefully, Smith's doing his due diligence and vetting candidates. But based on his record lately, I'm not holding my breath.
Beckman: I admit he's intriguing. He's done well at Toledo. Despite the Rockets' 2-3 record, this season so far has been testament to his coaching acumen. He played OSU tough--although that's becoming less impressive the further we get into the season--and had to play #4 Boise State six days after closing a heartbreaker to OSU, and took Syracuse to OT, a game they should have won if they hadn't gotten screwed by the officials, then spanked Temple, which had spanked Maryland, which had spanked Miami (FL), which had spanked... That 2-3 could just as easily be 4-1. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run the tables in the MAC. If he finishes 9-3 overall/7-0 in the MAC, he deserves serious consideration. My main concern is he doesn't have the "brand cache" that the other big-name coaches do for a job this high profile but neither did Tressel so the precedent certainly exists.
Finally, I appreciate new head coaches generally bring in their own staffs. Most of them bring the staff they had wherever they're coming from because they put together a winning team there. Few new HCs retain coaches from the last HC, usually because they've been fired for losing or their boss was hired by another school and took them with him. That wouldn't necessarily be the case with Gruden, who has been out of coaching for three years now, and most of the coaches he's probably close to are admittedly in the NFL. So he won't be bringing his old staff; he'll need to hire a whole new staff. And this is a Buckeye staff, at least defensively, anyway, that a) has not lost, b) does not deserve to be fired, and c) is as good as Gruden or anyone else we hire is going to find. And that includes Fickell.
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iowabuckeyes said...
Mayer: I'd stand up and cheer his hiring as much as the next guy but I honestly don't see it happening. He just got out of coaching citing health and family reasons...for the second time. Why jump back in after only 1 year out? He's said the only jobs his wife can't veto are ND, Michigan and OSU. He could have had either of the first two if he'd wanted them but passed; that leaves only OSU. Why should we be any different? The only reasons that make any sense to me are because a) OSU would have always been his dream job or b) he sees OSU being in a unique position to be Big 10 football that Memphis is to C-USA basketball--the unquestioned king. The SEC's so tough top to bottom, it's harder to be top dog year in and year out. But he had it pretty good in Gainesville with better weather and a deeper/better pool of recruits in Florida and the South. It's a lot easier to get kids from the north to go south than the other way around.
Pelini: I'm OK snaking one of Wisconsin's assistant hockey coaches as our head coach but I don't like the idea of purging another B1G 10 school for our football coach. That's a world turned upside down for me. The pecking order works this way: they're supposed to hire our assistants to be their head coaches. And I'm not sure Pelini would go or that Osborne would let him go. He's got it pretty good in Lincoln right now. Unlike Ohio, which has eight FBS schools and lots of divided loyalties, the ENTIRE state of Nebraska worships Husker football and Belini's their head priest. I don't want to get snubbed like Miles did to Michigan twice or Parcells did to Tampa Bay. Hopefully, Smith's doing his due diligence and vetting candidates. But based on his record lately, I'm not holding my breath.
Beckman: I admit he's intriguing. He's done well at Toledo. Despite the Rockets' 2-3 record, this season so far has been testament to his coaching acumen. He played OSU tough--although that's becoming less impressive the further we get into the season--and had to play #4 Boise State six days after closing a heartbreaker to OSU, and took Syracuse to OT, a game they should have won if they hadn't gotten screwed by the officials, then spanked Temple, which had spanked Maryland, which had spanked Miami (FL), which had spanked... That 2-3 could just as easily be 4-1. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run the tables in the MAC. If he finishes 9-3 overall/7-0 in the MAC, he deserves serious consideration. My main concern is he doesn't have the "brand cache" that the other big-name coaches do for a job this high profile but neither did Tressel so the precedent certainly exists.
Finally, I appreciate new head coaches generally bring in their own staffs. Most of them bring the staff they had wherever they're coming from because they put together a winning team there. Few new HCs retain coaches from the last HC, usually because they've been fired for losing or their boss was hired by another school and took them with him. That wouldn't necessarily be the case with Gruden, who has been out of coaching for three years now, and most of the coaches he's probably close to are admittedly in the NFL. So he won't be bringing his old staff; he'll need to hire a whole new staff. And this is a Buckeye staff, at least defensively, anyway, that a) has not lost, b) does not deserve to be fired, and c) is as good as Gruden or anyone else we hire is going to find. And that includes Fickell.
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buckeyelouey said...
I'm leaning more toward Pelini now, and I don't think it's a problem taking him from Nebraska since they just entered the Big Ten this year. I do wonder about his temperament and what the athletes think of him.
This post was edited by iowabuckeyes on 10/4/2011 at 9:29 AM
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OH GOD!!!!!!!!! PLEASSSSSSE NO MORE JON GRUDEN BS!!!!




Making a Case for Chucky as HC