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That is hitting the nail right on the head! I think they all dance around and conger up "Punkinhead" @ midnight.

i dont get the defending of joe pa really is all it comes down to. this is the guy that stuck around 10 years too long in coaching for his own good to break a record. is it really shocking to think that he didnt come out with the sandusky stuff cause he'd be fired along with everyone else? im sorry that 1+1=2 in my mind and to others it somehow equals 3.

ill defend him there and say it was for the wins. im sorry, if you're shitting your pants during a football game as a coach.. you should probably quit

Here's a news flash for all those joe pa supporters:
Yes, it is possible for one extremely horrific deed to undo a LIFETIME of good work.
And as far as I'm concerned every child that was abused after he knew, he is equally responsible and should be prosecuted for. And I'm being nice. If I was the parent of one of the children that was abused AFTER they knew.... Heaven help them. Every one of them....

We all still know of Shoeless Joe and the boys. My only hope is that 100 years from now the Penn State 4 are still known for the terrible act they allowed to happen under their watch because it is the WORST action that has ever happened in college sports.

We may not really ever know the truth about this whole situation. Yes Paterno should have done more and it also appears that the Penn State football program was put above the safety and welfare of young children. But the crimes that Sandusky committed were so unthinkable it is hard to believe that Paterno had any idea what a sick joker Sandusky was. Imagine if you found out your best friend was in the shower with a young boy like Sandusky was. Sandusky still claims his innocense and Im sure there was a conversation between Paterno and Sandusky where Sandusky totally denied the accusations and probably played the friend card that he knew Paterno 20 years or whatever and he could never do such evil? Perhaps Paterno told Sandusky to get the hell out of Penn St. ect..Paterno is still wrong to not investigate further but what if his friend was telling the truth, his life, marriage everything would be ruined just with the accusations? I do question why Sandusky was given access to Penn State after he resigned though, you would think Paterno and Penn State would wanted to distance themselves from Sandusky forever, if he resigned in 1998 and never came back I think that would have sent a better message.
Lets dont forget Sandusky although a sick human being he was a charmer, even people very close to serial killers seemed shocked to find out their friend or relatives were so disturbed. My guess is that Paterno was so focus on winning football games that he had no idea the multitude of crimes his friend had committed, should he have done more? Yes, yes, yes, was he trying to cover things up so Sandusky could feast on more young boys? Probably not, but his inaction allowed just that. With that being said I think the NCAA will have to step in and give some sort of punishment, the NCAA tends to enjoy the spot light and this is one of the biggest sports tragedies of all time.

The whole thing is sick, Im just not sure the degree of knowledge Paterno actually had. Apparently Sandusky's wife had no idea or she would have been charged also. I guess its just hard to believe that everyone stood by why Sandusky raped little kids, did they think he was a weird dude, no doubt. But if they actually knew you would think he would have been banned from Penn State for life? I might be wrong, everything doesnt add up though.

That is a total mess right there. Its not that damn hard to see what happened here. Laws and judicial system or not, its pretty damn obvious what happened here. I honestly could care less about loopholes and everything else. The facts are pretty obvious. The only human beings on this planet that cannot see this are trying to protect that institution, no matter what they've done. Its an embarrassment. And anyone who thinks its not is just as bad as the others who thought it was ok. I don't care about anything legal or NCAA. It is wrong in any way imaginable to any clear thinking human being on this planet.

FYI...I find this number staggering:

The average number of assaults a child molester commits before getting caught is 117 !!! Makes me want to throw up !!!

•1 of 5 girls and 1 of 6 boys will be molested before their 18th birthday.
•90% of all sexual assaults against children are committed by someone whom the victim knew.
•The typical sexual predator will assault 117 times before being caught.
•The re-arrest rate for convicted child molesters is 52%.

http://www.raising-redheads.com/statistics.html

Yup...They can't help but talk about how Woody went out anytime he's mentioned, forget the preceding decades.

PSU delusion abounds....

"Now, I'm not trying to defend Paterno here. I think we all know that he had more pull than your every day Joe-schmo. Some might even argue that he had more pull than Joe Schad. But the end result is this: there is only one person who can be legally blamed for that report not getting out. I'm not sure who it is, but I know it isn't Joe Paterno. Does that absolve Paterno of guilt? No, probably not. But let's not pretend that anything has changed from last week when we all figured that if anyone was to blame, it was Curley, Schultz, or Spanier. If at this point last week someone was saying, "Wow, those guys at the top deserve to burn, but I certainly don't think that Penn State should deserve a death penalty" that should continue to be that person's stance today. Nothing has changed."

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/7/2/3132225/the-e-mails-in-their-current-form-dont-change-anything

just read some of the comments left....

Of course what Paterno did regarding Sandusky was horrible. Again, this ultimately killed Paterno and doomed the program that he was trying so hard to protect. I don't think anyone is calling him a saint.

Maybe you don't grasp the irony, but I believe in Paterno's mind, protecting the program was of paramount importance over anything else, no matter how awful. People rationalize. Paterno saw his work and protection of the program as a noble, good cause. In some ways, it was, and the truth is that the man did a great deal of good work during his lifetime. Much of this has been wiped away by a horrible decision in the eyes of many. I don't think greed entered into this.

People who get to positions like Paterno in life typically have big ego's and are usually capable of seeing gray areas. As it turns out, he would have been better off seeing black and white, right and wrong, in this situation and keeping his ego (in this case that he was the grand protector of the program in check).

These types of moral issues are played out in all of our lives on a much less grandiose scale every day in the workplace or at home. Most of us have made mistakes and misjudgments. Instead of taking a knee jerk reaction and demonizing Paterno as someone who harbored a child rapist, yes I am giving him some benefit of the doubt.

I agree. Sandusky was asked to resign to sweep it under the rug. Paterno obviously guilty as charged.

But I believe rumors about Sandusky's proclivities spanned the entire college football community. Administrators, coaches, and probably the NCAA knew something. To a certain extent the buck stopped with Paterno, but where was the NCAA at the time?