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Not exactly looking to start or continue a SEC vs. BIG10 arguement. But outside of a off day for us against Illinois and a tough rivalry game with Michigan. We owned the entire '06 season. It is my opinion that with our offense whole and offensive scheme intact, that yes, we would have beaten Florida, LSU or Alabama. And that is with no disrespect intended.

No, I went to Every game that year, but we had 50+ days off, Troy smith gained weight, our oline couldn't block anyone, and having one receiver wouldn't have won us that game. They outplayed us in every facet of the game. To think we would have won that game makes you an unreasonable homer who can't put things in perspective. I agree that ginn would have helped, but to think we would have won is ludacris, IMO.

It was a memorable season, the scUM game was one of my proudest moments as a buckeye student, but that season ended so horribly. URBAN out coached tressel that game and leading up to the game, and that cannot be argued.

Bro, I am trying to like you...really, I am...but you are making it very difficult. Since you are a Buckeye fan, I am going to let a few things slide, the unreasonable homer comment, saying that I cant put things into perspective, and saying that I am ludacris. With you stating that you went to every game, I am guessing it is because you are in the band. Which explains why your football knowledge is slightly askew. I agree with your one point...I do not like to say that "one" player would have won us the game. But when that one player has the ability to run off half a defense, or at the least occupy 2-3 defensive players, even if Ginn never got the ball thrown to him. He opened up the rest of the team!! And the O-line doesnt need to block for a 7-10 yrd pass to Gonzo, which was our bread-n-butter for the whole season. I can also concede that Tress was not able to make the coaching adjustments needed to stop Florida after Urban started bringing the house every down. But as to your belief that we had no chance with Ginn in the game....we will just agree to disagree.

Agree with RyGuy, we wouldn't have beaten UF in the NC game if Jesus Christ himself was our WR. In all seriousness, to think that Ted Ginn would have made up the difference for the amount of points they beat us by is nucking futs. Take off your s&g glasses absolutbuckeye.

Guys, guys, guys.
we are getting no where. Tedd ginn would have made a difference, but not a 30 point difference. Thats a 5 possesion game. Meyer seen that we could not stop the blitz and utilized it. The players were not ready. Leading to that game they were errogant, careless, partied the night before the game and Florida was not scared. Also Meyer felt that Ginn did not have to be double covered. He knew a nice zone would have done it. That whole secondary was almost as fast as Ginn that day, but you wouldnt be able to tell because we couldn't get the ball in the air past the line of scrimmage. Please guys lets keep it civil

You both have a legitimate arguement.

I'm starting to think the Oregon speed is from "weed."

Meyer and team made a mockery of the Buckeyes on all levels. Little Teddy Ginn would have been a non factor. Not much TS can do when he's running for his life. Anyway, Urban had an answer for Ginn too, he's not the first quick receiver they'd ever seen.

You guys talk about Ginn spreading the field, but the game was won in the trenches. Their D-line desroyed us. Troy couldn't get the ball out to Ginn (if he was playing) so it wouldn't matter. In order for a WR with speed to stretch the field the Oline has to provide time for him to get down the field. This was not the case. Like Indy said Troy was running for his life the whole game.

I really think the biggest change in the game was coaching. We were dominating the run game the 1st qrt. Then by half JT took the running game out of the gameplan- WHY????? I know we were down pts, but you still have to lean to your power, and that was our running game. Plus losing Ginn early - you think JT would rely on the running game more- but he didn't.

Definatly a contributing factor. However its my belief that if you want to point to the biggest reason why we lost.....handing them the ball with a short field all game long in a national title game isn't going to help you any. We even gave them the ball inside the redzone. They weren't blowing up OSU's offensive line untill it became appearent through the score that the running game (which worked really well) wasn't going to be a factor anymore.

Take a look at the play by play. Can't give a good team the short field and expect to win. Florida had a lot of OSU help in winning that game.

Absolutely. +1

It wouldn't have mattered who was coaching the Buckeyes that game...after the way our guys spent the 50 days leading up to it.....

Saban, Miles, Chizik or even Meyer couldn't have done anything to stop the bleeding!

This team had the notion in their heads that they were un-beatable.....it was droned into them immediately following 'The Game' and they didn't prepare to the best they could.

Sure Tress has some heat to catch for this as well.....his team clearly wasn't prepared to play at all! That has to fall on coaching. But your players have to be open to listen to what you are trying to teach them....and willing to put the work and effort into practice.

Now...not to discredit that Florida team. Let's say this game was played exactly a week after the scUM game was played. IMO I think we win the game....but it sure as hell would have been a damn good game. And also a game that Florida could very easily win as well. I think it would be a game of the ages and one I would have much rather seen.

Timing is everything.

I'm sorry Indy I have to disagree.

Meyer didn't make a mockery of the Buckeyes on all levels.

Our Buckeyes made a mockery of themselves on all levels!

I've watched that game a painful many times.....and truthfully just less than a hand full of players actually showed up and wanted to play football.

2 of them were Pittman and Laurenitis. Not going to have much of a chance with a fat, out of shape offensive-line, a fat and out of shape QB.....and a team caught like a deer in headlights because they didn't take a very very good and under-rated Florida football team who was for real seriously!

Or apparently and more importantly....coaches who didn't take Florida very seriously. Talk about deers caught in headlights! Geesh!

Meyer had his team ready, Tress didn't...mockery...41/14 pathetic, that's a plain old fashioned ass whupping. I've read years of Ginn, in-out burger, 50 days, and other BS. All crap and buckeye fan denial as far as I'm concerned, we got owned, they blew our doors off and they'd do it again.