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South_Olentangy said...
Of course Florida was the 7th or 8th best team in the sec, that's why they were playing a 6 loss B1G team in Ohio State. You act as though we won the B1G this year.
Also, i'm sure the mighty Paladins of Furman must have recruited tons of sec speed when they almost pulled of the upset over the Gators this year.

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tornado_zadar said...
All I know is this.....the sec keeps winning national titles year after year after year. We can't compete with them and the two bcs title games and the blowouts against them confirm that.
This post was edited by South_Olentangy on 1/2/2012 at 3:49 PM
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AllDay28 said...
I know I am. But when I look across the country I don't see some monopoly on speed in the SEC. The SEC's top teams are fast, but so are all top teams. OK State, Oregon, Michigan, Clemson, etc are all fast and in other conferences. And the middle of the road SEC teams aren't any faster than other teams. Florida wasn't fast, we just had the same problems we've had all year. I think it's just media hype. The SEC is the best conference, but speed isn't the reason.
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shep777 said...
Let's keep the word "speed" out of the conversation. The elite teams whether they are in the SEC, BIG 12, PAC 12, have great football players....whether they are fast or quick or strong or great vision or whatever other quality you think a great player has these teams have them. OSU has some of those players but we don't have nearly enough. That's the only point I'm trying to make. Did we have bad coaching in 2011?? absolutely!! However, we have a talent gap that needs to be closed. Guys like Sweat, Sabino, Klein, Moeller, Goebbel, Bellamy, Hale, etc. are not even on the 2 or 3 deep on an elite team. How about that 5-star tackle Shugarts or our receivers? We don't have enough good football players and that's the first thing Meyer needs to correct and that's upgrading our roster!!
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miguelissimo said...
Agreed, then start adding in better paid assistants and we start to have a more plausible explanation as to why the SEC is dominating. But I agree, oversigning is the biggest reason, which incidentally allows you to keep the fastest athletes.
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Razorback said...
I didn't post much today as I really just sat in my recliner and observed without getting too overly emotional like I usually do. My expectations were low for this game given the coaching staff that we have. I expected to lose this game today and here are a few reasons (that we also saw play out on the field)...
* Florida has superior players -- they have out recruited us for the past ~5 years thanks to Meyer being there during those years * Florida currently has a better coaching staff on their sideline than we had on ours * Florida essentially had home field advantage * Florida had no off-field distractions
And we saw everything play out...I was glad we came back and made it only a 1-score loss, not that it makes much difference, but I enjoyed watching the kids make that last drive happen so that they know they can do it in the future, and I thought Braxton overall did a good job throwing the ball with the exception of that one missed pass to Posey in the endzone -- definitely his area to work on along with pitching the ball on option plays and throwing the ball away when nothing is there.
Overall, our defense really didn't play all that bad -- I see a lot of people in the premium area ripping the defense apart...they only gave up 10 points and the first 7 was a result of some home-cookin' by the officials. That's pretty good given all the talent on that Florida roster. This loss is on the offense & special teams. The offense performed pretty much what is to be expected under Jim Bollman and Nick Siciliano. It looked like a monkey trying to fuck a football out there for the vast majority of the game until Florida went into prevent-defense on that last drive. And our special teams...wow. The fact that we haven't fixed all the problems with the special teams that have existed since 2010 is really disturbing, but I have a feeling it will get rectified this coming year since the ST coach for 2011 (Dick Tressel) is effectively fired after today along with many other assistant coaches on offense (Bollman, Siciliano, and Peterson).
All in all, let's be happy about a few things:
* Urban Meyer is now running the show 100% * Jim Bollman has been fired * Nick Siciliano has been fired * There will be attrition during the off-season and we'll get rid of some dead weight * Spring Ball is only 12 weeks away
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Razorback said...
I didn't post much today as I really just sat in my recliner and observed without getting too overly emotional like I usually do. My expectations were low for this game given the coaching staff that we have. I expected to lose this game today and here are a few reasons (that we also saw play out on the field)...
* Florida has superior players -- they have out recruited us for the past ~5 years thanks to Meyer being there during those years * Florida currently has a better coaching staff on their sideline than we had on ours * Florida essentially had home field advantage * Florida had no off-field distractions
And we saw everything play out...I was glad we came back and made it only a 1-score loss, not that it makes much difference, but I enjoyed watching the kids make that last drive happen so that they know they can do it in the future, and I thought Braxton overall did a good job throwing the ball with the exception of that one missed pass to Posey in the endzone -- definitely his area to work on along with pitching the ball on option plays and throwing the ball away when nothing is there.
Overall, our defense really didn't play all that bad -- I see a lot of people in the premium area ripping the defense apart...they only gave up 10 points and the first 7 was a result of some home-cookin' by the officials. That's pretty good given all the talent on that Florida roster. This loss is on the offense & special teams. The offense performed pretty much what is to be expected under Jim Bollman and Nick Siciliano. It looked like a monkey trying to fuck a football out there for the vast majority of the game until Florida went into prevent-defense on that last drive. And our special teams...wow. The fact that we haven't fixed all the problems with the special teams that have existed since 2010 is really disturbing, but I have a feeling it will get rectified this coming year since the ST coach for 2011 (Dick Tressel) is effectively fired after today along with many other assistant coaches on offense (Bollman, Siciliano, and Peterson).
All in all, let's be happy about a few things:
* Urban Meyer is now running the show 100% * Jim Bollman has been fired * Nick Siciliano has been fired * There will be attrition during the off-season and we'll get rid of some dead weight * Spring Ball is only 12 weeks away
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buckibball4ever said...
Missagain fan, your Missagain team is just fortunate you play Virginia Tech. You would have lost to Florida if you guys played this year. It is not a myth that the SEC is faster than the Big Ten. Meyer said it in his press conference numerous times when he took this job. All the Buckeye fans can go back to the transcript and prove me wrong. I cannot wait for this new coaching staff to coach these players next season. Meyer will recruit his players. I feel sorry for the juniors who will never play in a bowl game again for Ohio State. Thanks for taking the easy and greedy way Gene Smith. Hope it was worth a fat pay raise for yourself and Gordon Geek
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buckibball4ever said...
Meyer is going to build Ohio State back up again. It will take some time but I am confident of his coaching staff. This past staff was terrible and they are gone. Thank you Jesus! SEC is better than Ohio State right now in the trenches. OSU defense is alot better than the OSU offensive line right now. Meyer will get his recruits and he is going to tear up the Big Ten conference. Offensive line is going to get overhauled a lot next season. I cannot wait for next season. You are going to see a night and day change in this team. I feel sorry for the juniors who are going to be seniors for next season.
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