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Hey, don't forget Glen Mason...........LOL! I'll just STFU!

I think Meyers is a good coach and recuiter. There are two things that bother me about him.
1. He will not change his offense to suit the type of players he has. He had a pocket passer and ended up using three QB's last year.
2. When he lost Dan Mullens and Charlie Strong things went bad both on offensive and defense.

Maybe he was just so burnt out that it effected his coaching. JMO

If it's a proven guy for OSU, it has to be Urban. I really don't think Pellini will accept the job.

Now on the other hand, I think they bring an unknown coach. Just like Tressel. Of course we knew him here in Ohio, but that's about it.

Me either!!

I hate that stinkin spread offense he uses.

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be interested to see how Dantonio does in the next several years. He did a great job at Cinci and has improved Sparty to where they shared the Big 10 title, can he keep them in the upper echelon of the conference. There are health concerns to be considered for both Dantonio and Meyer.

Good point on the health concerns of Dantonio.

If Bo doesn't learn to control his temper he'll have similar health concerns to Mark and Urban.

Maybe we could convince Dantonio to be head coach, Urban to be OC, and Bo to be DC, that way the pressure of the job is spread over 3 individuals instead of 1.

Good insight 'Tune. Obviously a lot going on down there that I was blissfully ignorant of. Accepting those insights as true, I would feel much more comfortable with the hypothetical Meyer to OSU sometime in the future (when Tress decides he's done).

Interestingly - while there are many on here, and I don't think you're one of them BriGuy - but there are certainly SOME people (boom*boom and tornado_zadar and plenty of others) who think that Urban Meyer is the greatest thing since sliced bread and Jim Tressel is simply not a very good coach (or at least is overrated).

During the last 6 seasons - a comparison of Tressel's teams vs. Meyer's teams look like this:

Year Florida Final Rank Ohio State Final Rank
2010 8-5 N/R 12-1 4
2009 13-1 3 11-2 5
2008 13-1 1 10-3 10
2007 9-4 16 11-2 4
2006 13-1 1 12-1 2
2005 9-3 16 10-2 4

Overall:
Florida under Meyer: 65-15 (2 MNCs, 3 Top 10 finishes, 1 season completely unranked, 2 conference titles)
Ohio State under Tressel: 67-11 (0 MNCs (two appearances), 6 top 10 finishes, 6 conference titles)

Now, I understand that those 2 MNCs are HUGE (especially since one of them was a defeat of Ohio State). But it seems to me that over the last 6 seasons, Jim Tressel's overall body of work is as impressive (and certainly much MUCH more consistent) than Urban Meyer's.

I know that some will argue that the $EC is much tougher than the Big 10 (and that may be). But over the last 6 years, Alabama has been on sanctions (until recently); and Tennessee has been down. I know the $EC has STILL been stronger (top to bottom) than the Big 10. But also consider that Meyer has the entire state of Florida as his backyard to recruit - and he's been doing so during a time when Miami and Florida State have been historically bad (well - relative to the previous 30 years at least). So - given that the talent pond he gets to recruit from is bigger and supposedly better, and the other teams that fish that pond have been historically bad - that has made recruiting for Meyer even that much easier.

Anyway - my point isn't that I'm saying Tressel is a better coach than Urban Meyer (although I do actually think that). My point is that there are many around these parts who think that Urban Meyer is a coaching God and that Jim Tressel is chopped liver. The data pointed out above would seem to prove (quite clearly) that that attitude is flat out misguided......

Fair enough - and good point.

A few things about Urban...I'd love to have him, he's young, I think he'd energize the Big Ten..or Eleven...or Twelve...or whatever we've morphed into, maybe prod PSU to finally can JoPa or get left in the dust, would draw recruits well, and hopefully continue the whuppin on UM. And it's been said many times how he and his wife are still Ohio peeps so he could continue the pedigree.

I like Jimmy and he has my support as long as he's here...but if we had to go new I'd vote Urban.

ummm...okay

I agree with the post by IndyDog completely. I love Tressel, and he deserves everyones support until he's done here for all the great things he's done at Ohio State. That being said, I think Urban Meyer would be a great replacement when Tressel is done here. As you already said he has the Ohio connections, and is a proven winner everywhere he's been. Before people talk about him coming into a good situation at Florida, you have to go back and look at his career to see how he got to Florida. He wasn't just offered that job out of the blue, he won leading programs to heights they had never reached in the past. He obviously isn't the politically correct Tressel type, but Woody is adored at Ohio State, and you don't get much more polarizing than he was. At the end of the day, if you win games the majority of the fan base is going to love you.

One big upside if Meyer were to come here is our recruiting would go through the roof! Not sure of the other effects?