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from espn article...

The family argues that it has the right to file an appeal because Paterno is an "involved individual," according to NCAA rules. Well, OK. But the only real sanctions against Joe Paterno were the vacating of his wins. There is zero chance that the NCAA would overturn that decision. But even if it ignored all previous precedent and restored those wins, who really cares in the grand scheme of things?

Beyond that, Paterno's name is about as radioactive as it gets right now in the halls of the NCAA. There will be no sympathy for his reputation at this time, and that probably won't change unless new information comes to light.

The letter also seems to ignore the fact that Penn State accepted the NCAA sanctions and agreed to not have any kind of hearing on the matter. Or that the school accepted as fact the findings of the Freeh report, which it had itself commissioned and paid for.

Yet the Paternos apparently think their letter of appeal can get the NCAA to consider changing the sanctions against a school whose leadership agreed to the penalties, simply because the family of one of the main figures responsible for the sanctions doesn't think it was fair?

Yeah, um, good luck with that one.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/54768/paternos-appeal-reeks-of-desperation

I am no lawyer but there must be a legal angle to this campaign to minimize damages from the blitz of lawsuits that are certain to be followed.

Other than that, this campaign is silly.

The court of public opinion has already come in with their verdict and Joe Pa was found guilty.

These idiots really just need to stop. All they are doing is solidifying the fact that all they are concerned with is that stupid record and football. Which is what started this whole problem in the first place. Their doing nothing but causing everyone more problems. This is basically daring the NCAA to start digging for more. And they'll find more.

Great to have you back, Iowa!

I agree in your saying that both the NCAA and PSU wanted "this" over as soon as possible.

As you say, the family's point of view is that both institutions decided that Joe Pa would be the fall guy. Did Freeh talk to Joe Pa? Curly? Schultz? Spanier for more than 10 minutes? No.

The NCAA says that their conclusions are not reviewable, so it looks like a lost cause.

Standing there "wide-eyed and slackjawed?" If it was your father you felt was unjustly accused, would you do everything you could to clear his name? Or just sneak away into the shadows in shame?

+1 sir.

I posted this on a topic on "The Front Row" ; so sorry for repeating this. I thought this might be worth repeating on this topic site. Also; I am sick of theese PSU idiots!
shaunsimpson said...

They are just embarrassing themselves at this point.

Agreed! Just read that the NCAA has denied "The Paterno's Family" Appeal! When will they realize their beloved "JoePa" was a seriously flawed man; to let his best-buddy pedophile continue his vile activities/ crimes! I read Jay's statement several times; & noticed the word "Estate"...Beside's trying to un-tarnish his Fallen Idol Father's Image...Maybe the underlying concern; is the Lawsuits & Loss of SSS their Family may be facing for Yrs. to come!...JoePa & his Ego; Ran Penn State! JoePa Knew! Everyone Knows it! The Family & the rest of the idol-worshippers should realize; that Penn State accepted this Punishment; because some of them know: There's a Lot more Damage Under the "Tip of This Iceburg"!!!...If you have read what the NCAA may be considering ; a 4-Tier Punishment policy...& "the Kicker": a 10 Yr. LOC Ban; the Paterno's & the rest of JoePa's worshippers should shut up & be Glad they are not Investigating their LOIC more! Joe Pa is actually lucky to have died; before this outrageous Shit-storm put him in Jail for Perjury; the least among other things if they continue to investigate! I hope they Do! Spanier, Curley; & the BOT can all rot in Hell for letting this go on; For Yr's.; if not Decades!

I stated some of these same sentiments the day the NCAA came out with the sanctions and got kicked to the curb because of it.

First...Paterno is guilty..not defending him in the least. Secondly..Penn St. is guilty..not defending them in the least.

But...this whole thing stinks to high heaven. Ohio St. has something as trivial as tatoos and the NCAA sets up camp and our entire program gets evaluated..top to bottom for a year. Miami and Oregon break rules...exhaustive investigation still underway at both programs. USC, violates the rules...massive and lengthly investigation to uncover full scope of infractions.

Penn St...arguably the biggest offender in the history of NCAA sports. No NCAA investigation. No boots on the ground in Pa. No filing cabinets gone through or extensive interviews conducted.

Penn St. officials QUICK to sign off on penalties.....NCAA QUICK to mete out punishment. Gotta ask yourself why? I'm freaking convinced...if Penn St. had to endure a massive investigation...like any other program has had to endure...there would have been enough dirt on them to bury the program.

You had two parties absolutely driven by powerful forces to just hurry up and kick this pile of crap to the curb. In my mind..it isn't right..there's more there..and it doesn't matter to me who points it out. Whether it be the Paterno's, an investigative sports reporter, or myself.

For every action or decision one decides to make there will always be a reaction or consequence.
This is the decision PSU and the four idiots made. Included in that decision was Joepa.
They all need to just shut the hell up.
This shit just makes me so MADD!! Sick of hearing the paterno family whine.
Go crawl under a rock for the next ten years. Joepa was a douchbag!!!!

I agree with those of you who think this is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Its obvious that the powers that be did not want a huge investigation digging too deeply. Theres NO WAY this happened in a vacuum and stayed inside the confines of the PSU football offices.

Without a doubt! "But, but, but......what about those poor players who had nothing to do with this??????" Whaaa, Whaaa, Whaaa! Well, I say for them to bend over and take what is rightfully theirs! Hey, they can transfer, no harm, no foul! Their program IS toast!

BTW- The NCAA has said their attempt at an appeal is DENIED! Get some, baby!

Just wait though, This is the beginning of the court battles. I do understand what Jimmy77 says about protecting one's father. It is their right to do so.....they are going to lose.

At the risk of sounding like some sort of Glen Beck conspiratorialist, I still believe there is a possibility that the buck didn't stop with Paterno and PSU administration. My only "evidence" is that Sandusky retired prematurely in 1998, pretty much at the top of his coaching career and in the midst of what were his peak earning years, but was never called on to lead any program. My gut tells me that rumors of his proclivities were rampant throughout the college coaching fraternity and that they reached the highest levels of the NCAA.

Thus, I see an element of "projection" in Emmert's heavy handed approach. Shine the spotlight as brightly as possible on Paterno in a self righteous and sanctimonious manner to protect its own interests and reaffirm its power.

It will never happen, but I believe a self investigation might show that the NCAA knew a great deal about Sandusky, but also failed to act or initiate any type of action calling out PSU to come clean. This whole situation is very similar to the Catholic Church, in which the cover-up reached the Vatican.

Great read. Thanks for sharing, Iowa.

Since you were "on leave" from the Board during much of the PSU flap, I'd be interested in knowing if you think the NCAA acted appropriately.

How do you see this playing out in the future for PSU? The NCAA?