Around the 'Shoe

^^^^ This +1

"We petition the Obama administration to: Pardon The Ohio State Buckeyes from unjust NCAA sanctions preventing their rightful access to a BCS bowl game. The Ohio State University football team is one win away from an undefeated season. However, due to imposed sanctions, they are not allowed to participate in their conference's championship game or the following bowl season. While a punishment for past indiscretions is to be expected, a bowl season ban is too harsh for a few young men trading memorabilia for tattoos and some change. The offending players and coach who covered it up are no longer part of the program. Please exercise your executive power to pardon the NCAA's excessive sanctions placed on The Ohio State Buckeyes to enable a rightful, satisfying culmination to the college football season for the American people."

The bowl ban wasn't just because of Tatgate. The failure to monitor was also due to Bobby D'Geronimo, a "friend of the university" (aka booster) who OSU knew was shady but no one bothered to keep an eye on. That's on Gene Smith, Doug Archie and his compliance staff, the players, and Tressel. Their negligence allowed him to put us in harm's way. We were given the privilege of due process and had our day in court. We accepted the sanctions.

Also, as GoBuxGo noted, the petition's deadline is December 18. The B1G CCG will be played on December 1. The bowls will all be slotted by December 2. Obama is not going to come in 3 weeks later and disrupt all that just for our benefit.

Let get real and let's move on.

You can be upset with Tressel, and that's perfectly fine. I'd say the NCAA itself is a much bigger issue though, and will have way more of an impact on the future of college sports and student athletes. Whereas in 5 years, we'll all forget about the football scandal. I'm not crying, I'm just pointing out that you can't put blame on one program when the whole system is broken, and the people who run the system (NCAA) show many fallacies, and are very inconsistent in handling their cases.

I want to see consistency from the NCAA. X is the violation, Y is the punishment. I want to see written penalties that if a player/coach does X, then the program will get Y. I don't agree with what Tressel did, and as I noted before, I have accepted the punishment. Tressel lost his job, and can't coach for what, 5 years? The players were suspended for many games, and it did hurt their draft stocks. Victories were vacated. Those punishments are enough for the crime that was committed. We shouldn't have a bowl ban this season. Also to note, I don't agree with everything the NCAA does either.

P.S. There's also a petition for Vermont to peacefully withdraw and start its own government. 2,215 people support it, which I think is more people that live in the state.

How's your team, shit for brains? Couldn't even come back against Northwestern! Last place in the Legends. You'll have to beat Minnesota just to go bowling!

But you're right: beating teams as lousy as yours doesn't help our star rating.

Take a walk, idiot.

Exactly.

Last I checked Cam Newton played for Auburn, not Ohio State. Let Auburn and the SEC worry about Auburn and their players....and if the NCAA doesn't do their due diligence well it's nothing we have any power to control...and in the end it makes beating them or any team that beats them that much sweeter.....

On top of which...look where Auburn is now. We had the worst season in 10 years.....last season and still won 6 games and went bowling....even though we probably didn't deserve it last season either....plus the NCAA didn't have to let our players play in the Sugar Bowl but they did. So be it.

Auburn only won 7 games in the regular season last year...and this year they have only been able to beat LA Monroe who they were barely able to beat, New Mexico State and Alabama A & M!!

Auburn's a mess!! So what Cam didn't get caught.....isn't helping them too much now.

As for us....besides 2011...the last time we lost more than 2 games in the regular season was 2004!!! We had 6 10+ win seasons until 2011....we've got nothing to complain about.

Stop frickin' worrying about other schools....players, coaches etc.etc.

We freakin cheated MORON! The team and players were out of control. The coach lied to the NCAA! We deserve crawl back under your bridge!

Pure speculation on my behalf, but I wonder if the Auburn investigation may have spooked the underground network of alumni who were filtering laundered payments to the players. If so, that might partially explain their decline only a couple years out of winning a NC. You would think the NC would have gotten them better recruits and that they would be in much better shape at this point.

Wow...good memory. You'll have to call me out when I contradict myself and say something stupid...which is every other post.

I didn't think we should appeal to the NCAA for two reasons --

* Waste of time -- the national media wanted us pounded, so we got pounded.
* Appealing means delaying sanction enforcement which prolongs the process which can and usually will hurt recruiting to a degree, and since we aren't getting out of it due to the excessive anti-Oho State sentiment across the country, the best thing was to just take it and roll.

I signed this petition because even though it won't work, it's not being sent to the NCAA, and IMO a post-season ban was absolutely over-the-top and against precedent as I've outlined in the MANY threads on the topic in the past. So in short, this is apples and oranges as we are not "appealing" to the NCAA.

Ultimately though we'll deal with the post-season ban and move on to 2013.

Edit: Added information.

Well that is a very nuanced position. Maybe a future for you in politics, my friend!

Just telling ya like it is my man. ;) If you ever think I'm being inconsistent or unclear in any way, feel free to ask and I will do my best to clarify whatever it is that's in question. I try hard to be consistent in my stances, and if I ever change my views on something, I try to give the details on what led the changing of my viewpoint. Glad you are here; you are a good, respectful poster.

Edit: SP