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Saban says no to Wisconsin

  • OHSethIO said...

    The top 4-5 are really good but the rest are just like minn, purdue, Illinois, etc

    Not even that. Look at most years. They have two good teams a year just like about every other conference.

    "The only thing That Team Up North will be tasting this year is the salty tears of defeat" - UFM

    Gobucks187TTUN

  • OHSethIO said...

    The SEC as a whole isn't that good. The top 4-5 are really good but the rest are just like minn, purdue, Illinois, etc

    It's a pretty good conference dude.

    chuck0609

  • Yep so good that South Carolina went 11-2 last year with the 95th best pass offense in the country. Isn't there only 117 teams.

    This post was edited by bucknut073 on 7/5/2012 at 10:31 PM

    bucknut073

  • Gobuck187Ttun, you are so right. They are just like every other conference. Its always a two team race. The east will suck again this year.

    dkbuckeyes

  • IndyDog said...

    Cold weather is over played, this isn't Alaska...I'd say hot weather has a more adverse affect on athletes than cold weather.

    you are out of your mind. i dont think you play organized football or play 7 on 7 games with your friends. playing in the cold weather is horrible and definitely effects your game. trying throwing or catching a ball in the cold and see the difference. it even effects tackling and really messes with you mentally when your shivering the whole game trying to warm up.

    Wolverines89

  • obviously they will play michigan if its down south close to alabama. no way they will schedule a home and home and play at the big house or horseshoe in November. bama will never agree to that.

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    you are out of your mind. i dont think you play organized football or play 7 on 7 games with your friends. playing in the cold weather is horrible and definitely effects your game. trying throwing or catching a ball in the cold and see the difference. it even effects tackling and really messes with you mentally when your shivering the whole game trying to warm up.

    Pluhleeze...you're making this seem like the tundra. And I though AL was more of a power team anyway.

    IndyDog

  • IndyDog said...

    Pluhleeze...you're making this seem like the tundra. And I though AL was more of a power team anyway.

    trust me. much harder to play in cold. it can definitely change a game especially with players who haven't experienced playing in the cold. the north is like the tundra to southern players

    This post was edited by Wolverines89 on 7/6/2012 at 4:50 AM

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    trust me. much harder to play in cold. it can definitely change a game especially with players who haven't experienced playing in the cold. the north is like the tundra to southern players

    I've been in Ohio in December, same as here in CT...it's not a big deal. AL is a power team, not sure how it's going to affect their game much. The way Meyer has been building our team it'll affect us more right if you buy in to your cold weather statements. What exactly is cold weather to you anyway? Isn't our last game in November too?

    BTW...watch out for the caribou.

    IndyDog

  • IndyDog said...

    I've been in Ohio in December, same as here in CT...it's not a big deal. AL is a power team, not sure how it's going to affect their game much. The way Meyer has been building our team it'll affect us more right if you buy in to your cold weather statements. What exactly is cold weather to you anyway? Isn't our last game in November too?

    BTW...watch out for the caribou.

    meyer only got 7 players in the last two years from warmer climate states, so no it wont effect osu. your getting this all wrong. alabama will be coming here for one game, its first time in the cold. for the osu commits they will be at osu for 4-5 years so they will adjust to the cold alabama cant adjust after one quarter. just cause they are a power team doesn't mean they don't throw and how bought the defense. don't tell me that defensive players are the same in colder weather as they are in the warmer weather. their will be a little drop off in defensive play in colder weather. It's just harder to play in the cold. i don't know why your not understanding that. go play outside in November with your friends and see if its the same as playing in 70 degree weather.

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    It's just harder to play in the cold. i don't know why your not understanding that. go play outside in November with your friends and see if its the same as playing in 70 degree weather.

    Dude...I spend EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR OUTSIDE...all fuggin day...I don't give a sheit about cold weather, November/December in Ohio isn't jack...I'm sorry...I don't buy into cold weather BS. 90 degrees and 90% humidity is MUCH harder to play in.

    IndyDog

  • IndyDog said...

    Dude...I spend EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR OUTSIDE...all fuggin day...I don't give a sheit about cold weather, November/December in Ohio isn't jack...I'm sorry...I don't buy into cold weather BS. 90 degrees and 90% humidity is MUCH harder to play in.

    this conversation is going nowhere. convo is over.

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    this conversation is going nowhere. convo is over.

    Alabama is hot. But not as humid as Ohio. Normally when its 88 degrees outside, the heat index is like 98 in Ohio. Where AL is more of a dry heat. Anyway............Ala is scared of wisky. If you notice when the games were scheduled, Meat chicken, PSU, and MSU were finishing 3rd and 4th in the Conference. Wisky.......a team on the rise........just won the B1G........what makes you think they would schedule that.

    Those who leave, will be champions. - Justin Boren

    COODanke

  • Wolverines89 said...

    meyer only got 7 players in the last two years from warmer climate states, so no it wont effect osu. your getting this all wrong. alabama will be coming here for one game, its first time in the cold. for the osu commits they will be at osu for 4-5 years so they will adjust to the cold alabama cant adjust after one quarter. just cause they are a power team doesn't mean they don't throw and how bought the defense. don't tell me that defensive players are the same in colder weather as they are in the warmer weather. their will be a little drop off in defensive play in colder weather. It's just harder to play in the cold. i don't know why your not understanding that. go play outside in November with your friends and see if its the same as playing in 70 degree weather.

    so why don't you just put a lid on the big outhouse toilet and play all your games inside? that way, weather won't be a factor...in a sport where weather's always been a factor. in a sport where weather is supposed to be a factor?. cramping in hot september games has the same effect as adding layers in cold november games. either way, you adapt or die.

    rejecting wisconsin is easy to rationalize. they are a very good but far from an elite program. rejecting osu would be a lot harder to justify. saban would be ridiculed for dodging a contender, not a pretender

    GoBuxGo

  • CO Dank said...

    Alabama is hot. But not as humid as Ohio. Normally when its 88 degrees outside, the heat index is like 98 in Ohio. Where AL is more of a dry heat. Anyway............Ala is scared of wisky. If you notice when the games were scheduled, Meat chicken, PSU, and MSU were finishing 3rd and 4th in the Conference. Wisky.......a team on the rise........just won the B1G........what makes you think they would schedule that.

    are you on crack? what are you talking about. everything you said was irrelevant to my comments. when did i say they will schedule? i just said alabama wont schedule it and were talking about the cold weather, what does the heat in ohio have to do with anything?

    Wolverines89

  • GoBuxGo said...

    so why don't you just put a lid on the big outhouse toilet and play all your games inside? that way, weather won't be a factor...in a sport where weather's always been a factor. in a sport where weather is supposed to be a factor?. cramping in hot september games has the same effect as adding layers in cold november games. either way, you adapt or die.

    rejecting wisconsin is easy to rationalize. they are a very good but far from an elite program. rejecting osu would be a lot harder to justify. saban would be ridiculed for dodging a contender, not a pretender

    another one who has irrelevant comments. your applying that i said weather is not a factor when i just posted 3 comments on why the cold weather is a factor, no one said playing in heat wasn't a factor, but its not the same effects as the cold, so what if the heat has effects how is that going to prepare you for the cold. two different things. your comparing apples and oranges.

    "cramping in hot september games has the same effect as adding layers in cold november games. either way, you adapt or die"? no it doesn't have the same effect. explain how its the same. like i said, the southern osu commits will adapt because they will be there for 4 years, but it will be bama players first time. how can you adapt immediately? you cant! saban even said its not fair for his players to play in the cold and snow because they are not use to it. if its the same thing why do southern teams stay away from the north in cold weather and why don't we have bowl games in the north since hot and cold are all the same?

    This post was edited by Wolverines89 on 7/6/2012 at 9:04 AM

    Wolverines89

  • IndyDog said...

    Dude...I spend EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR OUTSIDE...all fuggin day...I don't give a sheit about cold weather, November/December in Ohio isn't jack...I'm sorry...I don't buy into cold weather BS. 90 degrees and 90% humidity is MUCH harder to play in.

    I've been in CT (I was stationed there for 2 years) and I've been in the complete opposite (FL and Guam) You can adjust better to the hot than the cold, ESPECIALLY if you arnt used to the cold weather..

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    OHSethIO

  • Wolverines89 said...

    another one who has irrelevant comments. your applying that i said weather is not a factor when i just posted 3 comments on why the cold weather is a factor, no one said playing in heat wasn't a factor, but its not the same effects as the cold, so what if the heat has effects how is that going to prepare you for the cold. two different things. your comparing apples and oranges.

    "cramping in hot september games has the same effect as adding layers in cold november games. either way, you adapt or die"? no it doesn't have the same effect. explain how its the same. like i said, the southern osu commits will adapt because they will be there for 4 years, but it will be bama players first time. how can you adapt immediately? you cant! saban even said its not fair for his players to play in the cold and snow because they are not use to it. if its the same thing why do southern teams stay away from the north in cold weather and why don't we have bowl games in the north since hot and cold are all the same?

    who the f died and made you the only authority on this board? just because you say something, whatever the rest of us think doesn't matter? sorry if i stepped on your toes, herr hitler.

    i never said weather wasn't a factor, asshole. in fact, i said football was made to be played outside because weather's MEANT to be a factor. you seem to read just fine but you need to learn to work on your f*cking COMPREHENSION skills, you lamebrain mudderf*cker!

    everything you said is almost completely erroneous. southern teams don't "avoid" the north in cold weather. the simple fact is, by the time november hits, everyone's in the middle of playing their conference games. that's the way it's always been. are you so f*cking dense you don't know that?

    also, do you not know that it's been medically proven that when it's cold your blood actually gets thicker and when it's thicker, it flows slower? that affects conditioning. it can lead to exhaustion, dehydration and cramping. so a team traveling from colder climate to a warmer climate can actually be at as much of a physiological disadvantage as one coming from warm weather to play in cold weather. so guess what? adapt or die cuts both ways...why? ...because--again!--weather was MEANT to be a factor in football, dipshit! otherwise, as i said, why not just play all the games indoors where the climate is consistent and controlled?

    and, finally, the reason bowls are played in warm weather is because they're always been considered a "reward" for a good season, not just for the players and coaches but for their fans. the game is the main course in a sumptuous feast but it's not all there is to do. it lasts 3 hours but people are there for 3 days. no one wants to be standing on a street in detroit or minneapolis all bundled up watching a parade or holed up in their hotel waiting to watch a game in sub-freezing weather on new years day.

    you have got to be one of the dumbest people who's ever posted. and there's 5 minutes of my life i can't get back because i wasted it on you.

    GoBuxGo

  • GoBuxGo said...

    who the f died and made you the only authority on this board? just because you say something, whatever the rest of us think doesn't matter? sorry if i stepped on your toes, herr hitler.

    i never said weather wasn't a factor, asshole. in fact, i said football was made to be played outside because weather's MEANT to be a factor. you seem to read just fine but you need to learn to work on your f*cking COMPREHENSION skills, you lamebrain mudderf*cker!

    everything you said is almost completely erroneous. southern teams don't "avoid" the north in cold weather. the simple fact is, by the time november hits, everyone's in the middle of playing their conference games. that's the way it's always been. are you so f*cking dense you don't know that?

    also, do you not know that it's been medically proven that when it's cold your blood actually gets thicker and when it's thicker, it flows slower? that affects conditioning. it can lead to exhaustion, dehydration and cramping. so a team traveling from colder climate to a warmer climate can actually be at as much of a physiological disadvantage as one coming from warm weather to play in cold weather. so guess what? adapt or die cuts both ways...why? ...because--again!--weather was MEANT to be a factor in football, dipshit! otherwise, as i said, why not just play all the games indoors where the climate is consistent and controlled?

    and, finally, the reason bowls are played in warm weather is because they're always been considered a "reward" for a good season, not just for the players and coaches but for their fans. the game is the main course in a sumptuous feast but it's not all there is to do. it lasts 3 hours but people are there for 3 days. no one wants to be standing on a street in detroit or minneapolis all bundled up watching a parade or holed up in their hotel waiting to watch a game in sub-freezing weather on new years day.

    you have got to be one of the dumbest people who's ever posted. and there's 5 minutes of my life i can't get back because i wasted it on you.

    Ant believe it but I'm gonna stand up for the skunk weasel.... Gobux, I think your hatred, while honorable, is affecting YOUR comprehension. You and he are on the same side of the argument: you both are saying cold affects a person who is not acclimated to it. Although you are 100% correct that everybody is in the midst of conference play in November do there is NO chance of an sec team playing up north when the cold would affect the game.
    Indy, you do realize that those southern boys are acclimated to the heat right? Sooo if they WERE to play in sub freezing weather it truly would affect them, greatly. Just like if you were accustomed to the cold and went someplace hot, it would affect your performance. I too work out in the elements so I KNOW it takes some time for your body to adapt.
    Think nfl...say a California team,San Diego for example, playing new England at new England for conference championship? Highly favors the boys who are used to it.

    kn33snpads50460

  • Wolverines89 said...

    trust me. much harder to play in cold. it can definitely change a game especially with players who haven't experienced playing in the cold. the north is like the tundra to southern players

    Trust you eh?

    Yeah all those kids never make it in the pros.
    Mike Wallace for the Steelers is slow as hell playing in Pittsburgh.

    Another overplayed excuse.

    chuck0609

  • kn33s-n-pads said...

    Ant believe it but I'm gonna stand up for the skunk weasel.... Gobux, I think your hatred, while honorable, is affecting YOUR comprehension. You and he are on the same side of the argument: you both are saying cold affects a person who is not acclimated to it. Although you are 100% correct that everybody is in the midst of conference play in November do there is NO chance of an sec team playing up north when the cold would affect the game. Indy, you do realize that those southern boys are acclimated to the heat right? Sooo if they WERE to play in sub freezing weather it truly would affect them, greatly. Just like if you were accustomed to the cold and went someplace hot, it would affect your performance. I too work out in the elements so I KNOW it takes some time for your body to adapt. Think nfl...say a California team,San Diego for example, playing new England at new England for conference championship? Highly favors the boys who are used to it.

    i agree we're saying the same thing. i was just looking at it from the other side of the discussion. he and i were arguing shades of gray but he was carrying on like it was an argument of extremes...black vs. white. but weather aside, you are supposed to win your home games. that's why it's called the home field advantage, the 12th man, the 6th man, etc. which gets us to your point about the nfl...you realize, of course, that you're talking about home field advantage in a playoff situation, don't you? san diego vs. new england for the afc title in january is not what this discussion has been about. this has been about regular season games, specifically in november.

    let's be honest...the likelihood of "sub freezing weather" in ohio (or ann arbor) in november is bullsh*t. yes, it happens but very rarely, just like sept/oct tornadoes or lightning storms. i have lived in the midwest all my life and despite southerners' misperceptions, it is not the north pole. at least not in november. as the attached link shows, the average temperature in columbus in november is 54 degrees. in tuscaloosa it's 65 degrees. an 11 degree difference is not extreme for either team. and 54 is certainly not "sub freezing." saban coached at msu. he should know better than to use weather. it's a crutch and a bs excuse.

    finally, unlike many here, i don't hate ttun or even this self righteous tool. I have too many good things in my life to feel good about without wasting it hating someone i don't know. so i don't know where you got that. imo, a renewed osu/ttun rivalry is good for everyone.

    Climatology Comparison for Columbus, OH (43210) - weather.com

    Compare the climatology of Columbus, OH (43210) with other cities, including average highs, lows, and precipitation.

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    GoBuxGo

  • GoBuxGo said...

    who the f died and made you the only authority on this board? just because you say something, whatever the rest of us think doesn't matter? sorry if i stepped on your toes, herr hitler.

    i never said weather wasn't a factor, asshole. in fact, i said football was made to be played outside because weather's MEANT to be a factor. you seem to read just fine but you need to learn to work on your f*cking COMPREHENSION skills, you lamebrain mudderf*cker!

    everything you said is almost completely erroneous. southern teams don't "avoid" the north in cold weather. the simple fact is, by the time november hits, everyone's in the middle of playing their conference games. that's the way it's always been. are you so f*cking dense you don't know that?

    also, do you not know that it's been medically proven that when it's cold your blood actually gets thicker and when it's thicker, it flows slower? that affects conditioning. it can lead to exhaustion, dehydration and cramping. so a team traveling from colder climate to a warmer climate can actually be at as much of a physiological disadvantage as one coming from warm weather to play in cold weather. so guess what? adapt or die cuts both ways...why? ...because--again!--weather was MEANT to be a factor in football, dipshit! otherwise, as i said, why not just play all the games indoors where the climate is consistent and controlled?

    and, finally, the reason bowls are played in warm weather is because they're always been considered a "reward" for a good season, not just for the players and coaches but for their fans. the game is the main course in a sumptuous feast but it's not all there is to do. it lasts 3 hours but people are there for 3 days. no one wants to be standing on a street in detroit or minneapolis all bundled up watching a parade or holed up in their hotel waiting to watch a game in sub-freezing weather on new years day.

    you have got to be one of the dumbest people who's ever posted. and there's 5 minutes of my life i can't get back because i wasted it on you.

    locobangheadconfusedheadslap someone kill me fingergun. when did i say you said weather wasn't a factor? my comments are still up. go and quote where i applied that you said weather wasn't a factor. i cant even have a rebuttal because i don't think you understand what im saying. and your medical proven blood thicken whatever has nothing to do with what im saying. let me make it easy for you. weather is a factor whether its hot or cold and the cold will have an effect on bama. that's all im saying.

    im not saying we will beat bama if they came here this year, but will there be an effect on bamas game if they came and played in ann arbor in late november? yes or no? that's all im asking.

    and keep calling me an asshole and a mother******. i don't mind it. you say your not getting mad but obviously you are. grow up a little and have a convo without all the profanity. its just football my friend

    This post was edited by Wolverines89 on 7/6/2012 at 10:28 PM

    Wolverines89

  • so you draw pictures instead? that's being grown up? you're a joke.

    GoBuxGo

  • GoBuxGo said...

    so you draw pictures instead? that's being grown up? you're a joke.

    exactly. don't answer my question, i know who won the argue and thanks for the down vote. wave

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    exactly. don't answer my question, i know who won the argue and thanks for the down vote. wave

    I didn't dv you, dumbass. not once.

    GoBuxGo