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Sandusky denies being a Pedophile

  • Of course I don't expect him to come out and say he is one. What the hell dude you were in the showers with young boys. Also McQueary testified to seeing him raping the kid.

    Sandusky was seen on campus dressed in PSU garb. This university doesn't get it

    THEnutbuster

  • Said he wasn't a pedophile but admitted to showering with boys, and touching their legs in a non-sexual way. That is borderline pedophile imo anyway, because thats just weird, not that I believe thats true anyway, but that still seems like pedophile behavior to me.

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    SeeinScarlet

  • He's doing what the lawyer would want him to do - Creating doubts in others' claims; making the jury doubt the witnesses and victims' claims.

    He is trying to avoid the jail. He isn't going down without fighting.

    That would create a long painful drag thru mud for Penn State.

    buckeyebison

  • buckeyebison said...

    He's doing what the lawyer would want him to do - Creating doubts in others' claims; making the jury doubt the witnesses and victims' claims.

    I can't fathom any lawyer wanting him to make any public statements at this point. They are going to have a hell of a time finding an impartial (and uninformed) jury at this point. Planting seeds to the contrary only gives more opportunities for the prosecution to challenge jurors for cause (just as the defense will already have).

    The defense is going to want blank slates in my opinion.

    BigBuckNutz

  • BigBuckNutz said...

    I can't fathom any lawyer wanting him to make any public statements at this point. They are going to have a hell of a time finding an impartial (and uninformed) jury at this point. Planting seeds to the contrary only gives more opportunities for the prosecution to challenge jurors for cause (just as the defense will already have).

    The defense is going to want blank slates in my opinion.

    For what it's worth....the boy who was in the locker room in 2002 with Sandusky is claiming no abuse took place.

    tornado_zadar

  • This is the absolute worst case scenario for PSU. This is going to drag out for a long time, possibly a couple years.

    I was of the impression that this guy would kill himself, the act of which would help the schoolove past this. Instead, he's digging in for the long hall.

    It's going to take PSU years to love past this.

    chuck0609

  • tornado_zadar said...

    For what it's worth....the boy who was in the locker room in 2002 with Sandusky is claiming no abuse took place.

    For what it"s worth....Mc Quary (sp) testified before the grand jury that he witnessed it.
    Looks like he might be taking a trip for purgery?

    horseshoe1

  • SeeinScarlet said...

    Said he wasn't a pedophile but admitted to showering with boys, and touching their legs in a non-sexual way. That is borderline pedophile imo anyway, because thats just weird, not that I believe thats true anyway, but that still seems like pedophile behavior to me.

    ........................and had a really hard time explaining it is non-sexual. This dude is SCARY. He needs a Silence of the Lambs mask and to be locked away forever.

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  • Creating a smoke screen---but it could come back to haunt him. The defense is saying they know the boy from 2002 but he has not given testimony nor has he been investigated or cross examined. There could be a lot of twist and turns in this case and it looks like it will be in the news for quite a while--not good for PSU.

    No matter how you look at it--these boys who will have to testify and give depositions are going to suffer more. The cross examinations will be very tough and emotional. A very sas situation of making the victims suffer again and again.

    Florida Buck

  • He said they were just playing in the shower, give me a break! Anyone on the jury who would believe this story would have to be one stupid SOB!!!

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    ItalianBuck

  • ItalianBuck said...

    He said they were just playing in the shower, give me a break! Anyone on the jury who would believe this story would have to be one stupid SOB!!!

    Thye found they kid and he said no abuse...not defending the guy at all but he's going to mount a defense.

    chuck0609

  • From now on it's all legal posturing creating reasonable doubt. And I don't believe for a second McQueary did everything possible to stop it. What a pussy!

    Years ago I was in downtown St Charles Illinois walking up the steps of a hotel to attend a party. I heard somthing over my left shoulder and saw a guy beating up his girl friend. I ran over and beat the hell out of the guy and saved the girl. I had so much of his blood on me I had to go home and change. And I had a babe waiting for me at the party GDammit.

    Some guys have a backbone. And some guys don't. McQueary doesn't!

    Buck75

  • chuck0609 said...

    Thye found they kid and he said no abuse...not defending the guy at all but he's going to mount a defense.

    On the Today Show, they pointed out that the lawyer said "They THINK they found the boy." That sounds a little fishy--like they're trying to find a boy (man) to admit he's the one and said it didn't happen. Probably paying someone off! The whole thing is going to get worse, and we are going to get so tired of hearing about it--even worse than Casey Anthony.

    buckeyelouey

  • Buck75 said...

    From now on it's all legal posturing creating reasonable doubt. And I don't believe for a second McQueary did everything possible to stop it. What a pussy!

    Years ago I was in downtown St Charles Illinois walking up the steps of a hotel to attend a party. I heard somthing over my left shoulder and saw a guy beating up his girl friend. I ran over and beat the hell out of the guy and saved the girl. I had so much of his blood on me I had to go home and change. And I had a babe waiting for me at the party GDammit.

    Some guys have a backbone. And some guys don't. McQueary doesn't!

    Interesting analysis and good job by the way with your moment. You did the right thing.

    I give McQuery a little slack, although I know it's a minority opinion and myaelf would have acted differently than he.

    He was in a damned if you do or don't situation. If he attacked Sandusky he gets blackballed by Joe the legend Paterno and is out of coaching (remember he was just a grad assistant). Instead he does what is required from his job only, ie reporting it to his bosses, which there is no doubt he did, and he ends up getting destroyed by the media as a pussy. He'll have a really hard time getting a job again in coaching I believe.

    He was damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

    Again, not the popular stance on him, but he did report it.

    chuck0609

  • Buck75 said...

    From now on it's all legal posturing creating reasonable doubt. And I don't believe for a second McQueary did everything possible to stop it. What a pussy!

    Years ago I was in downtown St Charles Illinois walking up the steps of a hotel to attend a party. I heard somthing over my left shoulder and saw a guy beating up his girl friend. I ran over and beat the hell out of the guy and saved the girl. I had so much of his blood on me I had to go home and change. And I had a babe waiting for me at the party GDammit.

    Some guys have a backbone. And some guys don't. McQueary doesn't!

    Years ago I heard a girl crying behind a building, I went to see what was going on and whoever he is has a baseball bat in one hand and punched her in the face with the other, she fell on the ground crying, he drew back the bat to hit her and I busted him in the temple, he went down like a sack of potatoes. I jumped on him and hit him a few more times then POW, the bitch hit me with the bat in the back of my head. She's real lucky I don't hit women, I jumped up and took the bat from her and walked off.

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    ItalianBuck

  • Really? Saying that you were in shower with little boys, touching their legs just not with "intent of sexual contact"? That is the best that his people (PR/lawyer) could come up with? "Well I did not mean to". If this guy gets off without some kind of revolutionary evidence to the contrary from what we have already seen/heard I have lost all faith in our justice and the jury of our peers trial system.

    We may disagree on issues, but at the end of the day we are all Americans - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJoZiB-UGY&ob=av2e

    fbllman

  • fbllman said...

    Really? Saying that you were in shower with little boys, touching their legs just not with "intent of sexual contact"? That is the best that his people (PR/lawyer) could come up with? "Well I did not mean to". If this guy gets off without some kind of revolutionary evidence to the contrary from what we have already seen/heard I have lost all faith in our justice and the jury of our peers trial system.

    Casey Anthony not found guilty of murder, OJ not found guilty of murder, I lost faith in our justice system a long time ago!

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    ItalianBuck

  • fbllman said...

    Really? Saying that you were in shower with little boys, touching their legs just not with "intent of sexual contact"? That is the best that his people (PR/lawyer) could come up with? "Well I did not mean to". If this guy gets off without some kind of revolutionary evidence to the contrary from what we have already seen/heard I have lost all faith in our justice and the jury of our peers trial system.

    Our system mandates a presumption of innocence with the burden placed upon the State to provide evidence beyond a resonable doubt of guilt for the alleged crime.

    You're presuming you know all the evidence, and you don't, please don't assume you do. If Sandusky is guilty he will be prosecuted.

    We have the greatest legal system in the world; it is not perfect, but it provides an opportunity to a fair hearing, which you would not get anywhere else.

    chuck0609

  • ItalianBuck said...

    Casey Anthony not found guilty of murder, OJ not found guilty of murder, I lost faith in our justice system a long time ago!

    So two out of millions and you lost faith?

    Lol- its nice sitting on the sidelines and making judgments.

    chuck0609

  • chuck0609 said...

    So two out of millions and you lost faith?

    Lol- its nice sitting on the sidelines and making judgments.

    No I just used them as examples, I have many more but no one on this board would know what I was talking about. I was once thinking about being an attorney and used to love to sit in on court cases, so many times I seen cases get thrown out over bullshit and people get away with things. I decided I couldn't be a lawyer, I couldn't put someone in jail I felt was innocent and I couldn't defend someone who I thought was guilty, my conscious wouldn't let me.

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  • BigBuckNutz said...

    I can't fathom any lawyer wanting him to make any public statements at this point. They are going to have a hell of a time finding an impartial (and uninformed) jury at this point. Planting seeds to the contrary only gives more opportunities for the prosecution to challenge jurors for cause (just as the defense will already have).

    The defense is going to want blank slates in my opinion.

    Maybe this is EXACTLY what they are trying to do? This has exploded so quickly....the media is all over it every day in every way and now his lawyer (that interestingly enough impregnated a 16 year old when he was in his 40's back in teh 90's) "decided" that this was a good time for an interview???

    Seems to me that they are trying to make it IMPOSSIBLE to find an impartial jury.......what happens then? this trial could go on for a few years...........if it ever gets to trial.

    Sandusky is more than likely a dead man if he goes to jail or not.......

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    bcroft

  • You can hear and read the guilt in his voice and answers last night. This guy is guilty as guilty comes. His lawyer is messed up too, he got a 16 year old pregnant when he was 20-30 years older than her. Both are sickos

    Ohioz Finezt

  • ItalianBuck said...

    No I just used them as examples, I have many more but no one on this board would know what I was talking about. I was once thinking about being an attorney and used to love to sit in on court cases, so many times I seen cases get thrown out over bullshit and people get away with things. I decided I couldn't be a lawyer, I couldn't put someone in jail I felt was innocent and I couldn't defend someone who I thought was guilty, my conscious wouldn't let me.

    Fair enough.

    Its not a perfect system, but it is the best this world has to offer by far. I'd rather someone who is guilty be able to get off than have innocent people be convicted by a lesser standard. The presumption of innocence is one of the things that makes this country great, in my humble opinion.

    There is civil law, you don't have to do criminal cases, although the fact patterns are by far the most interesting.

    chuck0609

  • Chad L said...

    ........................and had a really hard time explaining it is non-sexual. This dude is SCARY. He needs a Silence of the Lambs mask and to be locked away forever.

    Or he can be thrown into general population like they did with Jeffrey Dahmer (sp?)

    If he goes to prison (which he should) he's going to have to be kept away from general population because they'll beat him to death (like Dahmer).

    Justice served in a not so civilized way.....not that that's a bad thing!

    I'm not completely sure why this guy would admit to showering with boys. Why? That's just silly.....and weird.....and if that's all he did, he should be locked up anyway! I don't care who you are or for what reasons but that is not normal.

    Anyone that would find this man not guilty should probably be locked up with him. Common sense people, common sense.

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  • ItalianBuck said...

    Casey Anthony not found guilty of murder, OJ not found guilty of murder, I lost faith in our justice system a long time ago!

    It's because the population of dumb people has exploded....and we've made it easier for dumb people to survive. At least here in the U.S. anyway. They are reproducing faster than smarter people anyway. Now there's more of them on juries.

    Some of these judges are idiots as well.

    These people can't do a damn thing for themselves and they are almost entirely dependent on the government, news media or some fu_king shrink to tell them what to do and how to live their lives.

    Take away someone's common sense and what do you have? A programmable robot that will do whatever it's told.

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