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Wow definitely crazy. I'd say Penn State's is still worse, only because it involved the rape of children -- If everything comes out to be true about Miami in football that sounds similar to Baylor, but like I was telling one of my buddies at work who asked me if I thought Miami was worse than PSU -- I think the thing with Miami, and also with Baylor after you've explained it is that they're all still consenting adults. Because these were little kids getting raped and with Joe Paterno and the leaders of PSU basically enabling it I think that still takes the cake. But no question, Baylor is awful from the way you described it.

Well BoomBoom, I went over to PSU's messageboard to get a few laughs at the insanity and I was not disappointed. After skimming through a few particular posters' posts in this thread (http://pennstate.247sports.com/Board/18/FYI-Latest-Tweet-from-Joe-Schad-about-Sanctions-10683409/1) I must admit, I want the death penalty for these idiots even more, now. I just can't believe the extreme to which they are out of touch with reality.

I was over on CNN reading their primary article on PSU and I was happy to see a lot of replies calling for the death penalty also. Just hope the NCAA does what they need to do and comes down hard. PSU should be slammed way harder than SMU.

It's good to see that many people in many places are being vocal about what Penn State deserves.

I could get behind that as long as there was definitely a 14 year bowl ban, 14 year probation period, and allow them to continue to play football as long as a large portion of the $$ made was put toward a charity that helps young kids and it has to be a third party charity that has no affiliation with PSU. Also existing scholarship athletes should be given the opportunity to transfer with no loss of eligibility so as not to punish the kids who were already there.

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This is new territory. There is nothing in the NCAA books about the Pres, VP, AD, and HC conspiring to cover up for a famous former coach who is raping little boys on campus, so it will be hard to prove anyone broke NCAA rules. At least that is what whatever NCAA legal experts are telling Joe Schad of E$PeeIN. This is going to be real interesting to see how this plays out.

Eh...Urban Meyer had NCAA contacts he talked to and so did Gene Smith. They all said there was no precedent for a bowl ban in Ohio State's case and guess what.... :) The NCAA has no rhyme or reason to when they decide to do what they do, so who knows what will happen.

Yes, they have bylaws about Ethics. I'm sure that's why they already have sent letters to PSU regarding potential investigations. But like I say, it's the NCAA. They don't always do the right thing. In fact I rarely see them do the right thing which is why I fear PSU will get away with it.

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for the sake of discussion, let's replace sandusky's pedophilia and rapes with activity less sinister but equally illegal, like embezzlement, which is also a felony...so, instead of raping and molesting little boys in the locker room, he billed the psu athletic department w/false invoices from his 2nd mile charity and then pocketed the money...his embezzlement continued for years, even after the administration and paterno found out about it but did nothing for fear that it would give psu a black eye...finally, he was caught during an audit...the subsequent investigation determined he'd stolen millions over more than a decade...he's tried and found guilty on multiple counts and sent to jail. now, would anyone be clamoring for the ncaa to get involved, much less give them the death penalty? i doubt it...I also doubt the ncaa would give two sh*ts about it.

let's be honest: it's because of the unimaginably heinous nature of his crimes against innocent and defenseless children that this has gotten the national attention it has...but at the end of the day, in my opinion, his criminal activity and the school's cover-up are beyond the ncaa's purview

i gave you a +1 because i agree you said nothing offensive but it was your 4th point i respect most...i give you credit for your apparent willingness to be enlightened

but a word to the wise: the bucknuts free boards are not the place to throw around the first amendment... as we learned a few weeks ago, the right to speak one's mind freely really doesn't exist here... in other words, don't confuse "free board" with free speech... because if that were applied without prejudice, no one would ever be banned, including smith2ginn, who was banned from the psu board until 1/1/14 after his (presumably honest but probably unflattering) post was deleted and he posted again likening its removal to the cover-up at psu...

other than that, i think we need to be above the kind of pettiness and paranoid behavior that seems to be plaguing the psu board right now...for those who remember, buckeye fans acted just as defensively last year...if someone comes here in peace, why tar and feather him and run him off the site on a rail?

Down votes for the hell of it? Would love to know what it is that is so disagreeable about what was said.

downvoted you twice. mainly cause you bitched about downvoting. "joe pa didnt believe in downvoting"

-2 When they reset.

That was my up vote for you. Immature, but funny.