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And too late to stay at tOSU. That sucks

BDigger:

WOW! Thanks for clarifying as this was my very next question.
Is he out because he signed with an agent and do we know for sure
he can't return to tOSU?

Man.......playing in Sacramento or Golden State is going to suck BIG Time and it doesn't seem fair to me that the league can label this kid in this manner. Seems to impede his right/ access to earn top dollar or am I totally off base here?

Not sure.

He will have a chance to prove people wrong and make a good living. This just means that from what they have heard the league thinks he will not go top 15. He will have the opp to make money and be a productive player.

It is what it is. Have you seen the combine results? I know it's a lot more than combine numbers, but this league is so athletic that it matters some. And for every drill they listed the top performer and the bottom....and Sully was listed as the bottom on WAY too many. And then with his back issue. These team doctors do all but dissect a player and a few teams put up red flags in regards to his back.

,,, and Buford too. Wasn't going to be a first rounder, but I guess he showed up a bit out of shape and is probably looking at being an UFA.

Whoever gets Jared outside of the top 15 is getting an absolute steal, this kid is a BASKETBALL PLAYER. Not the most electrifying athlete, and not over impressive on film but he has game. He is going to play very similar to a Brandon Bass type role player and make a living off of bball for many years

Here are some combine stats: The stats come out all jumbled, but you can decipher if you want.

What are the drills?
Players are asked to bench-press 185 pounds as many times as they can, test their vertical jump two ways (no-step and maximum) and run several drills to measure speed and lateral quickness.

Insider has obtained this confidential report from a league source. The NBA no longer creates a composite score to rank the top athletes in the draft, so we'll break it down for you by category.

VERTICAL LEAP: Marquette's Darius Johnson-Odom recorded the biggest maximum vertical with a whopping 41.5 inches. Duke's Miles Plumlee (40.5 inches), Kentucky's Marquis Teague (40.5 inches), Vanderbilt's Jeff Taylor (40 inches), Missouri's Marcus Denmon (40 inches) and Alabama's Tony Mitchell (40 inches) also met or beat 40 inches. A number of players jumped 39 or more inches in the maximum vertical jump: Harrison Barnes, Damian Lillard and Orlando Johnson (39.5 inches) and Bradley Beal (39 inches). Henry Sims and J'Covan Brown (29.5 inches) had the worst max vertical in the combine.

BENCH PRESS: Marquette's Jae Crowder tested as the strongest athlete in the camp. He bench-pressed a 185-pound bar 20 times. Meyers Leonard and JaMychal Green were next with 19 reps. Three players -- Will Barton, Tony Wroten Jr. and Tyshawn Taylor -- couldn't get the bar up one time.

Lane agility: Baylor's Quincy Acy had the best score, finishing the drill in a less-than-blazing 10.48 seconds. (Norris Cole did it in 10.07 seconds last year.) Jordan Taylor and Kim English both finished under 10.6 seconds. Ohio State's Jared Sullinger finished last at a pretty pathetic 12.77 seconds.

Three-quarter-court sprints: Barnes led the way with a 3.16-second run. Thomas Robinson and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist finished second and third at 3.17 and 3.18 seconds, respectively. Sullinger was last with an awful 3.81 seconds.

Bigger, Stronger, Faster
Name No-Step Vert Max Vert Bench Agility Sprint
Andre Drummond 31.5 33.5 10 10.83 3.39
Andrew Nicholson 28.5 30.5 10 11.89 3.67
Anthony Davis NA NA NA NA NA
Arnett Moultrie 33.5 37.5 10 11.32 3.22
Austin Rivers 32.5 37.5 1 11.54 3.32
Bernard James 30 32.5 6 11.84 3.4
Bradley Beal 33 39 8 10.95 3.28
Damian Lillard 34.5 39.5 13 11.15 3.34
Darius Johnson-Odom 33.5 41.5 17 10.76 3.21
Darius Miller 33 37 14 11.34 3.31
Dion Waiters NA NA NA NA NA
Doron Lamb 29 33.5 2 11.2 3.41
Draymond Green 28 33 9 11.01 3.4
Drew Gordon 29 34 10 11.35 3.49
Fab Melo 29.5 31 9 12.13 3.44
Festus Ezeli 34 33.5 18 12.35 3.29
Harrison Barnes 38 39.5 15 10.93 3.16
Henry Sims 26.5 29.5 7 12.33 3.44
Hollis Thompson 28.5 36.5 6 11.72 3.38
Jae Crowder 31 34.5 20 1..45 3.37
JaMychal Green 29.5 32.5 19 10.63 3.38
Jared Cunningham NA NA 4 NA NA
Jared Sullinger 29.5 31 9 12.77 3.81
J'Covan Brown 26 29.5 3 11.68 3.47
Jeff Taylor 33.5 40 15 10.87 3.29
Jeremy Lamb 31.5 38 5 10.98 3.25
John Henson 25.5 30 5 NA NA
John Jenkins 30.5 36.5 10 11.36 3.37
Jordan Taylor 33 36.5 14 10.57 3.19
Kendall Marshall 31 37 0 12.03 3.23
Kevin Jones 27.5 32.5 17 11.94 3.6
Kevin Murphy 31 36.5 11 10.97 3.42
Khris Middleton 28 31 4 11.45 3.47
Kim English 29 36.5 0 10.59 3.33
Kris Joseph 28.5 35 6 NA 3.46
Kyle O'Quinn 31.5 31.5 0 11.65 3.53
Marcus Denmon 33.5 40 8 10.82 3.19
Marquis Teague 32.5 40.5 8 10.65 3.19
Meyers Leonard 30 32.5 19 11.34 3.41
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 32 35.5 6 11.7 3.18
Mike Scott 27 32.5 14 11.49 3.44
Miles Plumlee 34 40.5 15 10.64 3.36
Moe Harkless 32.5 37 5 10.87 3.25
Orlando Johnson 32 39.5 13 10.98 3.25
Perry Jones 33 38.5 11 11.31 3.19
Quincy Acy 32 37 13 10.48 3.28
Quincy Miller 30.5 36 8 11.05 3.48
Robbie Hummel 27.5 30 13 11.56 3.41
Royce White NA NA NA NA NA
Scott Machado 27 32.5 17 11.26 3.3
Terrence Jones 29.5 34.5 12 11.57 3.4
Terrence Ross 31 37.5 2 11.78 3.28
Thomas Robinson 28.5 35.5 15 11.96 3.17
Tomas Satoransky NA NA NA NA NA
Tony Mitchell 31.5 40 14 11.72 3.47
Tony Wroten Jr. 30 35.5 0 10.75 3.24
Tu Holloway 28 35 12 11 3.42
Tyler Zeller 30 34 16 11.3 3.4
Tyshawn Taylor 32 36 0 11.48 3.2
Will Barton 33 39 8 10.95 3.28
William Buford 27.5 32.5 8 11.4 3.43

Agree. Hopefully he'll keep improving and do really well.

Caught the tail end of something on him yesterday on 92.3 The Fan (Cleveland). Saying he could drop to the end of the 1st Round or into the 2nd. Dustin Fox was saying that the Cavs could get a steal with their 2nd pic in the 1st Round. I like Sully, but Im not sure how his game will translate to the NBA. I dont think dropping that weight helped him that much. I would like to see him get wider and just bang down low. He has zero vertical with or without the weight. JMO

sullinger proves again in sports: when you're projected as a top 5 pick, LEAVE! there's two results that happen when you return: you move up maybe one or two spots, or you drop like a rock. sullinger would have been picked last year between 3-5. this year he'll be picked between 17-30. that's a lot of money that he will never have back

His biggest issue is the alleged back issues. His team is saying tight hammys are causing the back issues, but its the other way around.

He should be a double double machine in the NBA; he's a bit better than Boozer was coming out. He just has to prove his critics wrong.

If the CAVs could grab him with #24 (if they keep the pick) or get him in the second round (if they have those picks) to go along with Beal/MKG/Barnes, it would be a great draft.

This could turn into a steal for Cleveland.

personally dont want him. i dont think his game translates let alone now with a back issue that will probably last a lifetime for a guy his size. sure if you get him in the second round ok, but he'll be gone before 33 and 34

that i agree with. i hope sully does well, i just dont see it is all. i just think that losing the weight really hurt his game. his vertical didnt improve at all and it didnt seem like his conditioning was improved(not that this hurt him in college) i think if he had the big body it would help him out more since he cant jump. i truly want the cavs to just get rid of those other 3 picks to move up to 2. the cavs will NOT have 4 rookies on their team, nor 3 rookies. those tw osecond round picks will be foreign guys we never heard of who will never see a nba arena