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l-yacko@cox.net said...
we need michigan to be good-i hope they get great players-because of two things-one they wont out coach meyer-no way-two-they wont out recruit him either-but we need them to be good-so when we beat them it means something
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iowabuckeyes said...
This is the key. Hoke's racking up commitments so fast now, kids are jumping on them, afraid that if they don't commit right away, his class will fill up. Especially Ohio kids who would love to play for OSU but have come to the realization that an offer from Urban isn't going to be coming.
It's not a bad strategy, actually. By assuming an aggressive, leadership stance and creating a sense of urgency, he's forcing kids to commit early. But they are largely midwestern kids who want to play BCS football close to home. Six of his 15 commits are Ohio kids who, with the exception of Thomas, weren't likely to land an offer from OSU in the first place so they're jumping on the next best thing. On the one hand, I can't blame them because scUM beats Northwestern, Toledo, and the rest of the MAC but on the other hand, these early decisions have a whiff of panic and desperation.
Assuming he signs 25 again, his class is already 60% full before any of them have been to a senior camp, a senior 7-on-7 competition or played a single down of their senior year. Hoke's betting on largely unproven talent---Exhibit A: Taco Charlton, who didn't start for Pick Central and was being recruited based on his physical attributes---most of whom last played when they were 16 years old. Not all kids mature at the same pace. David Robinson was 6-7 as a HS senior. No one wanted him except Navy. He grew into a 7-1 Hall of Famer. Just because a kid's 6-5/285 as a 16 year old, that doesn't mean he'll be better than a kid who's 6-4/245 but projects to 6-6/300.
Haste makes waste.
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iowabuckeyes said...
Nasty: I hear ya. It was more of a detached analysis, like a court-appointed psychriatrist being asked to evaluate a serial killer's mental competancy. But unlike you, I am actually intrigued by what Hoke is doing. To beat your enemy, you must first understand and respect him. He's trying to replicate what Mack Brown's strategy, which is to fill his class up early. Otherwise, I'm just trying to wake up on a time-forwarded Sunday morning where my clock says it's 10:30 but my body says it's only 9:30.
I watched the kid's tape. I always try to be fair but I'm not especially impressed. The first play was his best play as it was one of only a few that showed him in pass coverage but the others largely featured underthrown balls that he either knocked down or intercepted. Intercepting a desperation heave by a 300 pound lineman turned punter? Or intercepting an underthrown ball by a QB running for his life? Or one kickoff return where he's knocked out of bounds by the kicker? Or sacking the QB on a blind side blitz? A couple blocked XPs? Nice tape for the caliber kid Northwestern gets but not BCS top shelf, in my opinion.
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talbert39 said...
Recruiting for us will be like a distance race this year. They are trying to get the national kids and that takes time. They are taking the Ohio kids they want early and working on the national kids for the long run. Let TTUN finish their class in a sprint and take all the guppies out of the pond, we are working on landing the whales that will eat the guppies for lunch :)
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blue in ohio said...
So a no name coach going from 7-6 to 11-2 and landing the no.4 class in the country isn't impressive? The difference between UM and BH is that UM already has a name for himself so he should be able to land some top talent. What BH did and has done is nothing short of astonishing due to the fact that he wasn't the big name coach UM is. I'm wondering if BH might just turn out to be the Michigan version of the sweatervest. BH's main interest is in beating Ohio. The thing that bothers me about UM is that he did not go out a winner the year he left Florida. He left when the going got tough and left behind the kids he recruited. OSU should get some of the top players in the country no matter who is the coach. Till UM coaches a big ten game I wouldn't be so quick to believe he is the greatest thing ever. Let what he does with your team on the football field speak for itself. Then tell me how great he is. Let's not forget. UM did not build the Florida program. He came in and coached Zooks players and won. The program he walked into at Florida was loaded with top talent. It was nothing like what BH walked into at Michigan. You guys made it a game. You did that because the Michigan team is not very talented.
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