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mat546 said...
Every bowl game that OSU plays in (and the big ten) is an away game. The Big 12 is in the same boat. I wish that Lucas Oil Stadium could be a part of the bowl series and a few enclosed stadiums up North. I wouldn't mind seeing some SEC teams play in the snow too.
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CO Dank said...
They are scared to play in cold weather against a team that's worth anything. This is why Nick Saban declined a home and home against Wisky. All the other B1G 10 teams he scheduled was when the team was below .500. Scum was coming off of a 3 win season when it was scheduled, and they were still forced to play Bama in Texas because Bama would not agree to come North. The home and home with Penn St. was when they were coming off a 6 win season. Wisky, a team that just won the B1G championship, was too intimidating for Saban to risk another title run. The cards are always played in their favor. I hate the $EC and when the rules start applying to them (all of the rules down to the oversigning of just one player) I will give them credit for their good run, but until then it's a scared conference that finds excuses for everything. And ESPN doesn't investigate shit down there.
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Bearbuck said...
1st and foremost I do understand your opinions and the frustration that comes with it...
But in all honesty, if you can beat them in snow then likewise you should be able to really put a hurtin' on them in perfect field conditions...
And if you're a good enough team....you travel well and take it to them in their own back yard. Just sayin.
They've won 6 NC's straight and 4 different teams have won it. As much as I can't stand all the SEC hype.....that doesn't sound top heavy to me.
I agree they've had a little help getting there for sure and this last NC doesn't really count in my opinion because it's not a real NC matchup. You've got to at the very least win your conference to get your shot and that didn't happen.
This post was edited by COODanke on 7/23/2012 at 12:55 PM
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IndyDog said...
You just pulled out whiners complaint #2.
First the weather fallacy, now the over signing. What's next? North/South genetics?
Who cares about over signing. Yes it sucks and it does give them an advantage, but it's not the reason we got our asses waxed when we played those two NCs. It ain't gonna change for the foreseeable future so we need to deal with it and make ourselves better than we've been. I think you'll see what a difference Urban makes and the excuses the whiners have used will start falling by the wayside...although I have no doubt they'll come up with new ones.
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ncgapp said...
Two questions indy:
(1) Didn't the SEC cap recruiting class sizes in the last few years in response to the oversigning criticism?
(2) When you say we'll see what a difference Urban makes, are you comparing that to last year, or to the Tressel era? Or, are you referring to the excuses we make? Just curious.
I don't like excuses, but I do believe that homers for all teams make them. We are just more familiar with our own. Most don't hold water.
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CO Dank said...
So you don't feel that oversigning could make all the difference in players like Mark Ingram, Dre Kirkpatrick, Trent Richardson. Do you think Saban would risk the penalty for oversigning if it didn't involve an elite player? Is it against the rules?........yup. Were they broken?............yup. Does this occur way too much in the $EC?........yup. Were they ever pentalized for it?..............nope. Does it give them an unfair advantage against the rest of the CFB world?
So why does that not matter to you?
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IndyDog said...
ncgapp
1) My understanding is although they "capped" scholarship openings at 25, they can still over sign up to 25 for lesser openings, then "manage" the number to the correct number of openings. from 28 to 25 is a start but not the whole picture.
2) I'm referring to the difference you'll see between the Tressel era and the Meyer era. It'll be hard to equal Tressel's record but I think the gap closes in the top tier team games...that'll be the difference.
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CO Dank said...
I get so tired of hearing the the B1G is the weakest conference out there. Besides the recent years of the dissapointing performances in Bowl games, I don't know where they come off. The B1G is the only conference that is not top heavy. The SEC is top heavy (LSU, ALA, FLA) The B1G 12 (Texas, OK) The Pac 12 (Stan, USC, OK). And the ACC (FLA ST, VT.) The B1G is 3rd in putting players in the NFL and only a few players behind the ACC. You could argue that OSU, SCum, MSU, Wisky, NEB, and until recently PSU have legit shots at winning the B1G. NW is the ultimate "upset U". Illinois I guarantee will be much better, doing a great job of keeping in-state kids...........well...........in-state. And even a Bowl loss besides a few was not Blow outs like the (cough, cough) National Championship, which if it were any B1G team losing by 28, we would have had no reason being there according to most. \
Sorry about the RANT but this craps gotta stop.
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CO Dank said...
One dynamic player in Cam Newton won that whole season for Auburn, who should have been a very mediocre team and still that is very sceptical and we all know he was paid for. Florida was only awesome when Meyer was there and he's not anymore. Alabama oversigns tremendously not just a little, I mean tremendously LSU had microphones in their locker rooms to listen to opposing teams gameplans per the Saints coaching staff. Georgia almost ran their division in the SEC but was beaten by Boise pretty well at the beginning. The more I think about the SEC, the more I think of what It might have been like if the rules were applied to them, all of the rules down to the smallest. But we will never know will we??? Thats what makes me upset.
Also which SEC team beat who in the snow? This topic was not to see who the strongest conf is, it was to explain that the B1G is by far, by far not the weakest.
You really don't think the SEC is top heavy???
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Bearbuck said...
Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Alabama have all won NC's the last 20 years. That's 5 teams. As much as I dislike the SEC....it is what it is. I don't think that's top heavy considering that all the other conferences pale in comparison. The next closest conference to that # is The Big 12 with Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska.
One dynamic player in Cam Newton is for sure....he was a phenom. Be that as it may....he can't win a game completely by himself. Everything has to fall into the right place for him i.e. people blocking for him, running the ball hard and catching passes. One single person can't win a football game without his teammates supporting and contributing to his efforts.
But I do understand what you're saying....I just don't necessarily agree with all of it.
Interesting post though and definitely makes for great conversation. I enjoy reading your posts.
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What's said about the B1G upsets me.