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Why wont OSU-Cincinnati play every year in basketball

  • I know that we don't have a soft non-conferance schedule each year. Some years are stronger than others like this season. But, I would love to see us play some of the top in-state school more frequently. I don't see why we don't schedule a game every year against 2 out of the following 3 schools: one of the Ohio MAC schools, Cincinnati and Xavier. Go to a neutral site to make it happen.

    I love how Izzo is willing to play anyone and the same for Calipari.

    odan rot

  • ohio could learn from the big 5 tourney in philly...the 5 teams in that city play every year...ohio could do the same with teams in state..could even make it an event to raise money for the school system in ohio or whatever they choose. win win for everyone involved imo

    This post was edited by steps1110 on 3/20/2012 at 4:57 PM

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  • Yeah I think they should play each other more too. I think the reason they don't do it is because the benefits of playing the game are mostly favor the other Ohio schools and not OSU. If they play us and beat us, or just play us very close, it brings them up a notch especially in recruiting and national prestige. From Ohio State's perspective, what do they have to gain?

    Not arguing against them playing these schools, just saying I can see why they might be reluctant to do so.

    Sethbuckeye

  • odan rot said...

    I know that we don't have a soft non-conferance schedule each year. Some years are stronger than others like this season. But, I would love to see us play some of the top in-state school more frequently. I don't see why we don't schedule a game every year against 2 out of the following 3 schools: one of the Ohio MAC schools, Cincinnati and Xavier. Go to a neutral site to make it happen.

    I love how Izzo is willing to play anyone and the same for Calipari.

    Yep he loves Izzo and Calipari. He loves MSU, Kentucky, Florida, the SEC.......everyone except OSU because he is Tornado Zadar the pretend OSU grad and fraud Buckeye.

    Because Kansas and Duke and Florida in the regular season is so much easier than MSU playing UNC, Duke and Florida State.

    Trolls keep trolling. Trollnado = Fraud Buckeye

    PhilaBuck

  • OSU has more to lose than all of the other schools if they take a loss (reputation and recruiting), OSU doesn't need the money either. From a perception and business standpoint, it's just not necessary. Especially when they are already playing top out of conference powerhouses!

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  • PhilaBuck said...

    Yep he loves Izzo and Calipari. He loves MSU, Kentucky, Florida, the SEC.......everyone except OSU because he is Tornado Zadar the pretend OSU grad and fraud Buckeye.

    Because Kansas and Duke and Florida in the regular season is so much easier than MSU playing UNC, Duke and Florida State.

    Trolls keep trolling. Trollnado = Fraud Buckeye

    Not true......

    Seems like you know a bit about me. never rooted for any other school but OSU, but I do like the fact that Izzo is willing to play anyone. All I do is point of the facts.

    No complaints with this year's schedule, but I prefer to have our guys play tough games evey year away from home in the non conf. There is really no difference in being a 24-7 or a 22-9 if we were to lose those games, plus I am a firm believer that toughrer games prepare you better than playing garbage schools.

    odan rot

  • I grew up in Cincinnati. I am a fan of UC and XU athletics and like to see them both do well because their success speaks well of Cincinnati, that, even though I haven't lived there since I graduated from OSU, will always be my hometown. But they have their crosstown shootout as a rivalry game already. I'd prefer establishing annual "border war" war game with a non-B1G along the lines of Mizzou/Illinois and IU/UK, a rivalry that pits state against state, not city against state. And gets their full attention, whereas playing UC every year still would compete with XU. Since UK already has Indiana, why not WVU, which is joining the Big 12 and would likely welcome a regional rival since they'll be losing Big East rivalry games against Pitt?

    iowabuckeyes

  • As a UC fan, I don't see the need for an annual UC/OSU game. I do think, though, that a matchup every now and again would be fun. As was said, we have our annual game with Xavier plus generally play Dayton and Miami so we don't really need another annual rivalry game. But a home and home matchup every 10 years would be fun and interesting which in my opinion is what college athletics are all about. No need to go 40-50 years between playing when you have two schools playing in power conferences who are so close to each other. Certainly would draw packed houses.

    Racinejake

  • personally id love if ohio state played every d-1 school in ohio at bball. why not? play: xavier, cincy, akron, kent, miami, bg, ou and whoever else. it would be awesome.

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  • great2belucky said...

    personally id love if ohio state played every d-1 school in ohio at bball. why not? play: xavier, cincy, akron, kent, miami, bg, ou and whoever else. it would be awesome.

    While I don't tplaying them all would be possible, I would like to see at 3 Ohio teams on the schedule each year. Play 2 at home and then play a third on the road or at a neutral site. And even if we were to lose, so what. I don't think we lose a recruit because we would lose to a MAC school. I'm not saying we would lose, but we would lose maybe 1 in 15 games to Ohio schools.

    I rather play an Ohio school than schedule a home game against South Carolina Upsate.

    odan rot

  • odan rot said...

    While I don't tplaying them all would be possible, I would like to see at 3 Ohio teams on the schedule each year. Play 2 at home and then play a third on the road or at a neutral site. And even if we were to lose, so what. I don't think we lose a recruit because we would lose to a MAC school. I'm not saying we would lose, but we would lose maybe 1 in 15 games to Ohio schools.

    I rather play an Ohio school than schedule a home game against South Carolina Upsate.

    Tornado, Neutral site???? Really! You may have changed your name, you haven't gotten any brighter!

    Vallybuck

  • odan rot said...

    While I don't tplaying them all would be possible, I would like to see at 3 Ohio teams on the schedule each year. Play 2 at home and then play a third on the road or at a neutral site. And even if we were to lose, so what. I don't think we lose a recruit because we would lose to a MAC school. I'm not saying we would lose, but we would lose maybe 1 in 15 games to Ohio schools.

    I rather play an Ohio school than schedule a home game against South Carolina Upsate.

    it would make things interesting. in general with college basketball seasons teams play such a waste of nonconference schedules. 11 games and teams play maybe 2-4 real teams the rest are a bunch of cupcakes. this isnt the bcs where losses really hurt you that bad. in the end the only thing that matters is $$$$$$$$$ basketball and obviously football.

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  • This only hurts osu in more than one way.
    An they gain nothing by doing so. This i nice meeting in the tourney to decide each teams fate.

    buckUPboy ●

  • odan rot said...

    I know that we don't have a soft non-conferance schedule each year. Some years are stronger than others like this season. But, I would love to see us play some of the top in-state school more frequently. I don't see why we don't schedule a game every year against 2 out of the following 3 schools: one of the Ohio MAC schools, Cincinnati and Xavier. Go to a neutral site to make it happen.

    I love how Izzo is willing to play anyone and the same for Calipari.

    Losing to them can effect recruiting.

    There's no benefit in playing them.

    chuck0609

  • odan rot said...

    I know that we don't have a soft non-conferance schedule each year. Some years are stronger than others like this season. But, I would love to see us play some of the top in-state school more frequently. I don't see why we don't schedule a game every year against 2 out of the following 3 schools: one of the Ohio MAC schools, Cincinnati and Xavier. Go to a neutral site to make it happen.

    I love how Izzo is willing to play anyone and the same for Calipari.

    I agree. the good thing about this game tonight is that it gives us the rare opportunity to see what it's like to play another in-state school on the big stage.
    Unlike Texas, California, Florida, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, etc., it's pretty much us and everyone else--esp in football.
    However over the better part of the past twenty years, UC has become a top15 and in some years a top 10 team in college basketball.
    This was most evident beginning twenty years ago when if we had made it to the Final Four (Michigan's Fab Five did instead), we would've played them for the first time since that crushing loss thirty years prior in the '62 title game. So the novelty story would've begun then instead of today, twenty years later on the fiftieth anniversary.

    sugarcrystal

  • chuck0609 said...

    Losing to them can effect recruiting.

    There's no benefit in playing them.

    we don't even recruit the same players..we recruit against the big east..not too many midwest guys on our radar..more east coast southern areas for the most part...so to me thats really a copout answer..i like gene smith's answer..."we're happy with out ooc schedule"..good enough answer for me

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  • The thing most of you miss here is the fact that every marquee college basketball program has a rivalry (Duke--UNC, Syracuse--G-Town, Kansas--KState, UC--Xavier, . We've never had a consistent one. Not ever.
    Michigan? Not even close that's only in football.
    Wisconsin has come the closest to one but it's not a true rivalry.

    We're perhaps the only major athletic program nationally without a rival in each of the major sports. It's Michigan in football and that's pretty much it. Having an in-state rival especially is something we should relish as opposed to running away from. If this program wants to advance to the next level, then scheduling UC on a regular basis would be a good start.
    It builds excitement, sells tickets, gets in-state fans on both sides revved up and challenges undecided fans throughout the rest of the state to pick a side.

    Having Michigan as a rival in football is fine, however even they have a near equal rival with their in-state Michigan State. And that's what we need as well. If not in football then definitely it should be on the hardwood.

    sugarcrystal

  • There were some credible rumors years ago that Bob Huggins (or another UC coach) had something to do with leaking info to the NCAA about the recruiting violations regarding Damon Flint back in the 90s. Damon ended up at Cincy, OSU ended up on probation, Randy Ayers was fired, and for several years we had some of the worst teams in OSU history. Some grudges are hard to let go of.

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  • It would be really neat to have an Ohio Tournament every year, prior to big ten play beginning. Teams in the all Ohio tournament could include:

    Ohio State
    Cincinnati
    Xavier
    Dayton
    Ohio U
    BG
    Akron
    Miami
    Toledo

    Would be a really cool thing, and would bring a shit load of $$ to Ohio universities.

    bucksandsurfing

  • steps1110 said...

    we don't even recruit the same players..we recruit against the big east..not too many midwest guys on our radar..more east coast southern areas for the most part...so to me thats really a copout answer..i like gene smith's answer..."we're happy with out ooc schedule"..good enough answer for me

    We don't recruit Midwest guys? I think you need to look at the roster.

    OSU has nothing to gain by playing them, and if they lose it hurts the program.

    Pass.

    chuck0609

  • bfbuckeye said...

    There were some credible rumors years ago that Bob Huggins (or another UC coach) had something to do with leaking info to the NCAA about the recruiting violations regarding Damon Flint back in the 90s. Damon ended up at Cincy, OSU ended up on probation, Randy Ayers was fired, and for several years we had some of the worst teams in OSU history. Some grudges are hard to let go of.

    yeah the coach who turned the Bucks in is Cincy's HC now.TOSU will never give Cincy a payday as long as that whiney suck monkey is there.

    tommyq

  • If Cincinnati and other Ohio schools wouldn't demand a home n home game rather they just come to OSU for a one game then OSU would do it every year. That's what its about is these smaller ohio schools can't pay top dollar for OSU to come into their building yet the ohio schools also dont want to just come to OSU they want a home and home. It's not about OSU not having nothing to play for and all about the money of these ohio teams (xavier, cinci, dayton) demanding a home and away game. Schedules are almost always about the money.

    Marty16x1

  • bucksandsurfing said...

    It would be really neat to have an Ohio Tournament every year, prior to big ten play beginning. Teams in the all Ohio tournament could include:

    Ohio State Cincinnati Xavier Dayton Ohio U BG Akron Miami Toledo

    Would be a really cool thing, and would bring a shit load of $$ to Ohio universities.

    An 8-team Ohio Invitational Tournament over a weekend in December is a great idea. Other potential candidates include Kent St. & Cleveland St.

    I like Iowa's idea also of establishing an annual rivalry with a nearby OOC basketball power like WVU or Missouri.

    JAG24

  • bfbuckeye said...

    There were some credible rumors years ago that Bob Huggins (or another UC coach) had something to do with leaking info to the NCAA about the recruiting violations regarding Damon Flint back in the 90s. Damon ended up at Cincy, OSU ended up on probation, Randy Ayers was fired, and for several years we had some of the worst teams in OSU history. Some grudges are hard to let go of.

    I had forgotten all about that. We played WVU two consecutive seasons within the past few years, so maybe we are now beyond the Huggins thing. Huggins are a basketball family with Ohio roots.

    JAG24

  • bucksandsurfing said...

    It would be really neat to have an Ohio Tournament every year, prior to big ten play beginning. Teams in the all Ohio tournament could include:

    Ohio State Cincinnati Xavier Dayton Ohio U BG Akron Miami Toledo

    Would be a really cool thing, and would bring a shit load of $$ to Ohio universities.

    Probably could not be worked out but boy, that would be one hell of a tourney!

    rudyBuck

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