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Why would anyone believe that Michigan Is really back?

  • I also love how the guy goes back 15 years (to the undefeated scUM shared NC season) to say that "since our best season since the Wilson administration, we have more wins than you"...he conveniently leaves off those mid-90s years where OSU was 10+ wins every year...

    Troll, please leave.

    swords81 ●

  • Back? back? I wouldn't bet the ranch on it with a coach who has a lifetime 48% winning percentage.

    maci57

  • This thread is an example of why Buckeye fans are considered such arrogant pricks. After a 6-7 season and being thumped by a 6-6 SEC team everyone should be more concerned about when OSU is going to be back. Talking smack from a position of weakness -- major fail.

    laservet

  • Back? Back? They have a coach lucky to leave the buffet, and you wanna talk about being Back...buckeyes

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  • buckeye_fan5717 said...

    Back? Back? They have a coach lucky to leave the buffet, and you wanna talk about being Back...buckeyes

    True.

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  • laservet said...

    This thread is an example of why Buckeye fans are considered such arrogant pricks. After a 6-7 season and being thumped by a 6-6 SEC team everyone should be more concerned about when OSU is going to be back. Talking smack from a position of weakness -- major fail.

    that was a season without a coach....Wtf? What was our record the year before? Now We have urban Meyer what will our record be with him? We played a season without basically Four offensive starters. what would Mich be without denard Robinson? Ohio State Never Left, we had one season that was bad, due to Having no Coach and our seniors being supended.......and we still ran scum to the wire.......We are Ohio State......And by the end of next season you will recognize that

    jackrizzle24

  • swords81 said...

    Really? You honestly think they are going to AVERAGE between 6 and 8 guys a year going to the NFL for the next four years? You must honestly believe that they are going to challenge for NC's every year for the next four, because if you assume that most guys are going to start for 2 years (rarely are there 1 year starters...statistically, there are more 3 year starters across CFB than 1 year) then nearly 100% of their starters will be on an NFL team at some point...in the words of Cris Carter..."COME 'ON...MAAAAAN"!

    you dont think Michigan will have 6 NFL kids a year for 4 years? the 3-9 Michigan teams have 13 NFL players from those 2 years on NFL rosters.

    A19

  • maci57 said...

    Back? back? I wouldn't bet the ranch on it with a coach who has a lifetime 48% winning percentage.

    his record at Michigan is 11-2 thats all that matters (he also lead BG to its 1st bowl games in its history and had SD State in the top 25 for the 1st time since the early 90's) not bad

    This post was edited by A19 on 2/28/2012 at 4:17 PM

    A19

  • swords81 said...

    I also love how the guy goes back 15 years (to the undefeated scUM shared NC season) to say that "since our best season since the Wilson administration, we have more wins than you"...he conveniently leaves off those mid-90s years where OSU was 10+ wins every year...

    Troll, please leave.

    ok lets go the past 2 years OSU 6 wins ...TOTAL is that better

    A19

  • BuckOfEuc said...

    They still have alot of holes, but Robinson can mask them. He is a great college player, no doubt about it. I think they will hit a bit of a speedbump when he leaves.

    Gardiner may be a better passer, but he is in no way the threat Denard is.

    Meatchiken still lacks a secondary, which they have no had since Woodson played there.

    They have been recruiting heavilly OL, but they have always had a strong line. I cant remember when O-Line play was ever a problem for them.

    They were also fortunate to play a very easy schedule last year and got PSU and OSU on uncharacteristically BAD years and they didnt play Wisky.

    There OOC schedule was a joke.

    But Denard is the wildcard,he keeps them in games.

    As long as he is there, they have a chance to play well.

    you really shouldnt post if you have no idea what you are talking about.Michigan has had 9 CB's drafted since Woodson - Leon Hall , Marlin Jackson etc.Michigan could be better with out Denard (he lead the nation in turnovers 2 straight years)
    Michigan will probably have the best secondary in NCAA in 2013 ; top 8 kids all returning 5 of them were on the All Big ten teams (1st 2nd or honorable mention) Scouts group rankings for 2013 Michigan secondary was number 1 in the nation
    SOS was 1st in conference and the ONLY team to play 4 non-conference teams with 6+ wins...
    people read post like yours and might actually think the things u say are true ...
    a poll AFTER 2011 season on a Michigan board 80% wanted Gardner to start in 2012 and D Robinson as a slot WR / Kick returner to better prepare him for the NFL and put the best offensive players on the field

    This post was edited by A19 on 2/28/2012 at 4:29 PM

    A19

  • Fellas I think we can all agree that the past is just that.....the past. Right now Michigan and OSU (at least in my opinion) are on pretty even field as far as how their present and future looks. Is Michigan back? That really depends on what your definition of back means. Do I think Michigan is going to compete for a national title right now? No I dont think Michigan has the talent to do that. Do I think they have the talent to compete for a Big 10 title right now? That I do because even though the schedule is harder, statistically a program does take a leap from Year 1 to Year 2 so hopefully that can help. I think both programs are on the upswing and think both in a few years will be constant Top 10 caliber programs in the nation. You guys got yourself a great coach and staff, congrats

    GoBlueOSM

  • jackrizzle24 said...

    that was a season without a coach....Wtf? What was our record the year before? Now We have urban Meyer what will our record be with him? We played a season without basically Four offensive starters. what would Mich be without denard Robinson? Ohio State Never Left, we had one season that was bad, due to Having no Coach and our seniors being supended.......and we still ran scum to the wire.......We are Ohio State......And by the end of next season you will recognize that

    When you played us, you had every player you was suppose to except TP
    Myer quit not once but twice on his team.
    How many coaches have had great success at one school and never do anything after? Spurrier ring a bell?
    Maruice Clarett ratted out OSU many years ago about the "Loaner Cars"

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  • BuckeyeDefense said...

    No they have 2.

    http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

    5 since 1936 AP 1st year 2 AP 3 others

    National championships MGOBLUE.com
    these are the NCAA National TROPHY'S in Michigan's trophy case, so i'm gonna say if theres a trophy it must be legit

    The following is a list of Michigan's 22 claimed national championships:
    Year Coach Selector Record Bowl
    1892 Mallen Wildes 9-0
    1895 Mallen Wildes 9-0
    1901 Fielding H. Yost Helms, Holgate, NCF 11–0 Won Rose
    1902 Fielding H. Yost Helms, Billingsley, Houlgate, Parke H. Davis, NCF 11–0
    1903 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 11–0–1
    1904 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 10–0
    1905 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0
    1906 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0
    1907 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 10-0-1
    1909 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 10-0
    1913 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0
    1914 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0
    1918 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 9–0
    1923 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 8–0
    1932 Harry Kipke Dickinson, Parke H. Davis 8–0
    1933 Harry Kipke Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, CFRA, NCF, Parke H. Davis, Poling 7–0–1
    1934 Harry Kipke Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, CFRA, NCF, Parke H. Davis, Poling
    1936 Harry Kipke Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, CFRA, NCF, Parke H. Davis, Poling
    1941 Fritz Crisler Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, CFRA, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, NCF, Poling
    1947 Fritz Crisler Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, CFRA, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, NCF, Poling, Sagarin 11–0 Won Rose
    1948 Bennie Oosterbaan AP 9–0
    1997 Lloyd Carr AP 12–0 Won Rose
    National Championships 11
    [edit] Other undefeated seasons

    Michigan was also undefeated in 12 other seasons: 1879, 1880, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1887, 1898, 1910, 1922, 1930, 1973, 1992

    22 could be 35+ but Michigan choose classes over football most of those years

    This post was edited by A19 on 2/28/2012 at 4:58 PM

    A19

  • A19 said...

    5 since 1936 AP 1st year 2 AP 3 others

    National championships MGOBLUE.com these are the NCAA National TROPHY'S in Michigan's trophy case, so i'm gonna say if theres a trophy it must be legit

    The following is a list of Michigan's 22 claimed national championships: Year Coach Selector Record Bowl 1892 Mallen Wildes 9-0 1895 Mallen Wildes 9-0 1901 Fielding H. Yost Helms, Holgate, NCF 11–0 Won Rose 1902 Fielding H. Yost Helms, Billingsley, Houlgate, Parke H. Davis, NCF 11–0 1903 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 11–0–1 1904 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 10–0 1905 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0 1906 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0 1907 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 10-0-1 1909 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 10-0 1913 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0 1914 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley ,NCF 11-0 1918 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 9–0 1923 Fielding H. Yost Billingsley, NCF 8–0 1932 Harry Kipke Dickinson, Parke H. Davis 8–0 1933 Harry Kipke Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, CFRA, NCF, Parke H. Davis, Poling 7–0–1 1934 Harry Kipke Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, CFRA, NCF, Parke H. Davis, Poling 1936 Harry Kipke Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, CFRA, NCF, Parke H. Davis, Poling 1941 Fritz Crisler Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, CFRA, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, NCF, Poling 1947 Fritz Crisler Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, CFRA, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, NCF, Poling, Sagarin 11–0 Won Rose 1948 Bennie Oosterbaan AP 9–0 1997 Lloyd Carr AP 12–0 Won Rose National Championships 11 [edit] Other undefeated seasons

    Michigan was also undefeated in 12 other seasons: 1879, 1880, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1887, 1898, 1910, 1922, 1930, 1973, 1992

    22 could be 35+ but Michigan choose classes over football most of those years

    I wish AP was around since day one .. Michigan has 11 media national titles,11 media polls national titles = 22
    if AP was around from the start ,those 12 undefeated season wouldve been National Titles and it would be 35 total or 33% of all the National Championships (instead of the 20% we own now)
    or maybe the AP would award all those teams from 1901-1913 avg about 63 pts a game and gave up about 5.8 per game for a 12 year stretch

    A19

  • lmao Now i understand, Mich fans are delusional.....From 2000 to Now The Ohio State University has sent More Players to the NFL than micjigan by far. in 2004 we had more players drafted than Michigan will have had in the last 4 years..... and to think that roster is filled with NFL caliber talent is asinine. If you send 3 players a year to the NFL you will have a accomplished something.......Talk to me in 3 years when you get some talent on that roster......Take your 4 or 5 loss season and pray that denard stays healthy or it could be even worse than that!

    jackrizzle24

  • A19 said...

    you dont think Michigan will have 6 NFL kids a year for 4 years? the 3-9 Michigan teams have 13 NFL players from those 2 years on NFL rosters.

    Name them, because they sure were not drafted... 2009 2 players terrence Taylor and Morgan Trent...... 2010 Brandon graham Zoltan Mesko and stevie Brown....2011 jonas Moulton and Steve schilling........when you speak know what you are speaking on or just shut up....its better to be thought the fool than to be proved the fool

    jackrizzle24

  • A19 said...

    his record at Michigan is 11-2 thats all that matters (he also lead BG to its 1st bowl games in its history and had SD State in the top 25 for the 1st time since the early 90's) not bad

    When did Hoke coach at BG?

    Bucktooth2

  • I know Mich will have twice the losses as Ohio State, Steve Spurrier is winning at SC, and by the time the Urban meyer Era Is over at Ohio State Scum will be battered bruised and broken

    jackrizzle24

  • A19 said...

    his record at Michigan is 11-2 thats all that matters (he also lead BG to its 1st bowl games in its history and had SD State in the top 25 for the 1st time since the early 90's) not bad

    And, if he is so good, why was he your third choice for HC?

    Harbaugh was your Urban Meyer eqivalent and not only did you not get him, you didnt even get your second choice. Now you are going to talk up a coach after one season in which you lost to your big brother (again) and lost to Iowa. Congrats on the once in a decade win over OSU. It very well could be another decade before you get another W. The Tatoo incident and the subsequent firing of Tress will turn out to be the worst case scenario for Michigan. In reality, you have no chance of competeing with OSU on a regular basis now that we have a full staff of legit coaches to go with the top tier talent.

    Bucktooth2

  • Bucktooth2 said...

    And, if he is so good, why was he your third choice for HC?

    Harbaugh was your Urban Meyer eqivalent and not only did you not get him, you didnt even get your second choice. Now you are going to talk up a coach after one season in which you lost to your big brother (again) and lost to Iowa. Congrats on the once in a decade win over OSU. It very well could be another decade before you get another W. The Tatoo incident and the subsequent firing of Tress will turn out to be the worst case scenario for Michigan. In reality, you have no chance of competeing with OSU on a regular basis now that we have a full staff of legit coaches to go with the top tier talent.

    Preach on!!!!!!!

    jackrizzle24

  • A19 said...

    you really shouldnt post if you have no idea what you are talking about.Michigan has had 9 CB's drafted since Woodson - Leon Hall , Marlin Jackson etc.Michigan could be better with out Denard (he lead the nation in turnovers 2 straight years) Michigan will probably have the best secondary in NCAA in 2013 ; top 8 kids all returning 5 of them were on the All Big ten teams (1st 2nd or honorable mention) Scouts group rankings for 2013 Michigan secondary was number 1 in the nation SOS was 1st in conference and the ONLY team to play 4 non-conference teams with 6+ wins... people read post like yours and might actually think the things u say are true ... a poll AFTER 2011 season on a Michigan board 80% wanted Gardner to start in 2012 and D Robinson as a slot WR / Kick returner to better prepare him for the NFL and put the best offensive players on the field

    Sounds like he is even trying to prove to himself UM is back LOL! No one here is worried or fears Michigan. You Michigan trolls are entertaining though!crackwhip

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  • Fact:

    It doesn't matter if you have nfl talent in college. You need college talent to win in college games...ie denard, troy smith, Antonio Pittman, many other college players around the nation.

    The truth is it is a matter of time before the rivalry is what it is again. As homers we would like to think they will suck forever the same way they would like to think this years osu team will be the new norm. History has proven though that both programs will be powerhouses more often than not.

    Do not fool yourself into thinking ND will beat them. How many times have they been expected to win that game? But they just cant seem to beat Mich for whatever reason.

    As long as we do what we have to do I could care less about them. Starting threads about them sucking is a sign of weakness in my opinion. Ohio State will kick their ass and that's a that I care about.

    Go Bucks. Muck Fichigan

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  • A19 said...

    his record at Michigan is 11-2 thats all that matters (he also lead BG to its 1st bowl games in its history and had SD State in the top 25 for the 1st time since the early 90's) not bad

    He never coached at BG you jackass. Try Ball State!deadhorse

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  • panicthey have kalis, they have kalis panic ....sarcasm..... idiots lol

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  • A19 said...

    I wish AP was around since day one .. Michigan has 11 media national titles,11 media polls national titles = 22 if AP was around from the start ,those 12 undefeated season wouldve been National Titles and it would be 35 total or 33% of all the National Championships (instead of the 20% we own now) or maybe the AP would award all those teams from 1901-1913 avg about 63 pts a game and gave up about 5.8 per game for a 12 year stretch

    *Grasping*

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