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William Buford

  • osubuzz83 said...

    I believe his confidence is shot right now, but I do believe you are on to something.

    Heaven forbid you say something bad about a Buckeye on these boards. Don't you know that every Buckeye is the best at everything according to most posters on these boards.

    Imagine when he gets on fire this team might be unstoppable. We know the guy can shoot its just a matter of time for him and hopefully its against kansas

    brandonw691

  • I just hope that if Buford turns it on the rest of the team wont turn it off. Seems like when we reach this point or get close to it we get cold. Im glad we're not dependent on the three but it would be nice to have a few at this point in the tourney. Matta has to get it done one way or the other with or without Buford shooting the lights out. Not going to dwell on last year but that was ours and we gave it away so this is the year to take it back>

    buckybuckbuck

  • brandonw691 said...

    Imagine when he gets on fire this team might be unstoppable. We know the guy can shoot its just a matter of time for him and hopefully its against kansas

    If he can score 15-18 points on around 12 shots with Lenzelle's production, they'll be real tough.

    If he gets in the 20's, this team may be cutting down the nets.

    chuck0609

  • As far as his confidence goes, he had a good game against Kansas so hopefully we can see it again. This time with Big Sully though!

    Harrysally

  • Buford is definitely off. And if u can't see that you are off as well

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  • Harrysally said...

    As far as his confidence goes, he had a good game against Kansas so hopefully we can see it again. This time with Big Sully though!

    He was 8 /23 against Kansas, 1/6 from downtown. 34%.

    It wasn't horrible, but he had more shots than points, which was 21 points.

    He needs to be better and more efficient.

    This post was edited by chuck0609 on 3/26/2012 at 10:21 PM

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  • OSbUckeyes88 said...

    I hear ya. He is suprisingly slow on the fast-break too. If he isn't all alone where he can dunk the ball, he will either get blocked or pick up an offensive foul.

    well he cant even do that anymore.. see cincy game

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    great2belucky

  • OSbUckeyes88 said...

    I disagree, respectfully of course. In my opinion Buford needs to look more for his long range shot versus driving in. During the last 2 games he has done little good by driving to the hoop. 75% of the time he blows an easy bunny shot, turns it over or picks up an offensive foul. He has constantly killed our chances to pick up some momentum on fast breaks. For some reason Willy has been passing up his first look at a shot to only take a more difficult shot. I do think his confidence is shot which is why he is doing this. I really think we need to set up more screens for him to roll off of and take some jumpers. The past couple of games he has just been hanging around the perimeter and being an assist man. I really hope he can come up big this weekend, we need him!

    Good post. I agree with Buford not being the slasher to the rim. Let me screen open for jump shots and find his shot. Everytime he has a fast break or drives the lane- it's a wasted opportunity.

    Your right- either he turns the ball over, puts up a shot that can't be rebounded or gets a charging call. These are 3 things that are wasted possesions. Even if he comes around the screen and takes the 3 or long 2, we have the boys to rebound the miss.

    When he drives the lane, there are no chances for that.

    Chuman

  • He is only a few points away from 3rd at time scoring at OSU so he obviously can see. Some of you guys dont look at the big picture, that he is one of the greatest to ever play at OSU because of his recent struggles.

    ATLBuckeyez

  • I was not bashing Buford. I was trying to make a point that he is getting timid driving the lane, and is causing more TO's then making good plays. If he is cold shooting -fine. At least that gives us a chance to rebound and get the put back. When he gets out of control on slashing to the bucket, he doesn't give us that chance. It's a dead possesion.

    I hope Buford does good. During the season (expectially in the beginning) Buford was the key shooter. Sully, DT and Buford were the go to guys. Later in the season when he started to lose his confidence, Craft and Smith Jr started to relieve that pressure. Even though this looks bad on Buford, it actually help the team out in the end. Now it's an all rounded team. Not just Buford, DT and Sully.

    Chuman

  • ATLBuckeyez said...

    He is only a few points away from 3rd at time scoring at OSU so he obviously can see. Some of you guys dont look at the big picture, that he is one of the greatest to ever play at OSU because of his recent struggles.

    but rigth now the small picture is a national championship, which if they somehow win it, will do more for william bufords legend then any scoring record can. problem is his shooting has been so bad. i dont even care if he gets benched, i just dont want him take 12-14 shots and only making 2-3 of them.

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  • ATLBuckeyez said...

    He is only a few points away from 3rd at time scoring at OSU so he obviously can see. Some of you guys dont look at the big picture, that he is one of the greatest to ever play at OSU because of his recent struggles.

    I wouldn't put him with Lucas, Jackson, Redd, Sullinger and even Turner. i'd put him after oden too.

    He simply has never been the showcase item, and cannot handle the load.

    He's the product of being fortunate to play with some great Buckeyes and being a second or third option.

    Here's the honest question to ask: Did William Buford lead this team to the final four?

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by chuck0609 on 3/27/2012 at 7:44 AM

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  • chuck0609 said...

    I wouldn't put him with Lucas, Jackson, Redd, Sullinger and even Turner. i'd put him after oden too.

    He simply has never been the showcase item, and cannot handle the load.

    He's the product of being fortunate to play with some great Buckeyes and being a second or third option.

    Here's the honest question to ask: Did William Buford lead this team to the final four?

    No, he was a part of the team that got us here but not even close to a leader, Sometimes they won in spite of him not because of him. WB is a true Buckeye I understand that but the reason you have a team is to win, loyalty has to take a back seat to winning. You watch who get this team motivated, it's not WB that's for sure, he's as quite as a church mouse on court side. I heard over and over how Tress would leave a player in being loyal and people bitched to no end, what's the difference between Tress and Matta, none as far as I can see.

    This post was edited by ItalianBuck on 3/27/2012 at 10:34 AM

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  • ItalianBuck said...

    No, he was a part of the team that got us here but not even close to a leader, Sometimes they won in spite of him not because of him. WB is a true Buckeye I understand that but the reason you have a team is to win, loyalty has to take a back seat to winning. You watch who get this team motivated, it's not WB that's for sure, he's as quite as a church mouse on court side. I heard over and over how Tress would leave a player in being loyal and people bitched to no end, what's the difference between Tress and Matta, none as far as I can see.

    Before you guys turn Buford into the new Jim Bollman, a few thoughts......

    Maybe there were games we won in spite of Buford, but there were definitely games we won because of him. A certain victory in East Lansing comes to mind.

    You need to remember he is a senior but still a young man. His shooting is off but most analysts will say his improved defense and rebounding matter to this teams success.

    I have no idea why you guys think you can judge a player or coaches effectiveness by how much they scream and yell - John Wooden was boring. TIm Duncan is boring. Were they not leaders?

    No doubt that people would bitch about loyalty with Tress - but most of the time, the Sabino or Bam Childress eventually showed on the field why they weren't playing. Buford has without a doubt been our best deep threat - even with his streaky shooting and his recent struggles. I cannot imagine playing LaQuinton Ross at this point - so it isn't loyalty that keep Buford in. Its the hope that the streaky shooter with a 3-year track record gets his streak going again. And lots of coaches besides Matta do that.

    Finally, lighten up on our players - especially those who have stayed and contributed for 4 years. We complain all the time about how Izzo brings in 4-year guys, and yet trash Buford when he tails off in year 4

    PhilaBuck

  • PhilaBuck said...

    Before you guys turn Buford into the new Jim Bollman, a few thoughts......

    Maybe there were games we won in spite of Buford, but there were definitely games we won because of him. A certain victory in East Lansing comes to mind.

    You need to remember he is a senior but still a young man. His shooting is off but most analysts will say his improved defense and rebounding matter to this teams success.

    I have no idea why you guys think you can judge a player or coaches effectiveness by how much they scream and yell - John Wooden was boring. TIm Duncan is boring. Were they not leaders?

    No doubt that people would bitch about loyalty with Tress - but most of the time, the Sabino or Bam Childress eventually showed on the field why they weren't playing. Buford has without a doubt been our best deep threat - even with his streaky shooting and his recent struggles. I cannot imagine playing LaQuinton Ross at this point - so it isn't loyalty that keep Buford in. Its the hope that the streaky shooter with a 3-year track record gets his streak going again. And lots of coaches besides Matta do that.

    Finally, lighten up on our players - especially those who have stayed and contributed for 4 years. We complain all the time about how Izzo brings in 4-year guys, and yet trash Buford when he tails off in year 4

    I have no issue with Buford personally, but he is not in the catagory of an all time great at OSU as stated above and to which I responded.

    A good player, ambassador and student athlete, yes. An all time great? No.

    chuck0609

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