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supermanbuckeye said...
Haha. Wow. Maybe some addaral is needed. Look you just talked about the last game with exception to Battier. One call. Really? The entire series Bron and Bosh initiated contacted yet OKC would get called for the foul. The refs weren't even close to fair. Im not a Cleveland fan never have been never will be. Im a basketball fan so I can see it objectively. Honestly I predicted the Heat to win it all this year. Im just stating obvious facts. The fix was in. Accept it. Its not the first time in NBA history and won't be the last. And you want some props ok. The Heat dominated the Thunder in that last game and could have won a fair 7 game series against them. That just didn't happen though
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Look we just see it differently. It was in no way a fairly called series. That's my opinion. You being it is your team see it a different way. That's your opinion. I clearly stated though I felt the fix was in the Whole season. Starting with New Orleans trades and them winning the lottery and then the Championship.
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Ohioz Finezt said...
I've never seen such a disparity in the way fouls were called. OKC played dumb at the end of games and that's mostly why they lost but with that being said, OKC were getting no calls. Guys were getting clubbed in the head on layups, pushed, etc and nothing was getting called and that's including 2 superstars in Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook while on the other hand Dwayne Wade gets breathed on and it's a technical. Russell Westbrook went 20-32 in game 4 and shot all layups and close jumpers in traffic and he went to the line a total of 3 times...i'll spell that out THREE TIMES. Just look at Derek Fisher's face during most of these games and he was in shock at how the games were being refereed and that's coming from a guy who played with Shaq and Kobe. Heat won the series at the end of the day but in no way was this series officiated evenly
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Freize said...
Seriously Derek Fisher has never committed a foul in his whole career if you go by his reactions ( seriously this is the worse guy you could have picked for your argument) so just stop it. Did you not watch the first half last night? The Thunder got every single call so again stop it. So he shot jumpers in traffic, does that mean he got fouled? no its a freaking jump shot. I don't recall any Thunder playing getting clubbed in the head so please remind when this happened ( your making it up to fit your hatred). How many times did Perkins put his arm in LeBrons gut last night on layups with no foul calls? Wade first to the floor and Harden flops on him ( he is known for this) and its his 3rd foul? seriously the calls went both ways like it or not it happens in every game, every series, every championship won so just let it go.
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Dude you're a heat fan so your' bias is making you see what you want to believe. Uh how about you go look up Derek Fisher's layup when Udonis Haslem "supposedly" blocked his layup and tell me that bullshit was made up after that! Oh so nobody's been fouled on a jump shot before because it was a jump shot huh? That's pretty good logic there. Did i say he got fouled on every jump shot?...NO. Westbrook was attacking and guys were playing catch up to get back in position and i saw quite a bit of times he should've gotten the call. And i meant to put in my post that last night was the first time the series was officiated even but the Thunder were already done and the Heat were on fire hitting 14 3's. If you think the Heat dominated the Thunder in this series then you're blinder than a bat because every game aside from last night was right down to the wire so how about you "stop it"
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To be clear what I was referring to when I said initiating contact by no means was I talking about driving to the hole. What I meant was Lebron pushing on Hardin to get free Hardin responds in kind and gets the foul. All the blocking calls when he dips his shoulder. Those are offensive fouls that were never called
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Anything Harden did is irrelevant. He was either in on the fix, or first in line for the WORST 6th man in HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Freize said...
I am not a Heat fan but anyway Fisher got fouled on a layup ok what about the elbows to Lebrons midsection from Perkins last night? Those are fouls correct? So its 1-1 on missed calls right now. Oh and BTW kicking your leg out to draw contact is not a defensive foul Steve Javie talked about this on ESPN after the game but of course you know more about fouls than professionally trained officials right?
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Tim Donaghy was a professionally trained official so i guess all those calls made in the Lakers/Kings series were all correct right? Nevermind the +18 differential to the Lakers, those were 100% correct cause he's a professionally trained official. Duncan's technical for laughing was as accurate and necessary as could be when Joey Crawford T'd him up for laughing with his teammates WHILE sitting on the bench. Yeah you're right, professionally trained officials all know the most, hell they don't even make wrong calls on occasion. Next time i see a foul not called maybe i'll go to the thinking of "the ref didn't call it so it's not a foul, no ifs ands or buts. They are always correct"
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To be clear what I was referring to when I said initiating contact by no means was I talking about driving to the hole. What I meant was Lebron pushing on Hardin to get free Hardin responds in kind and gets the foul. All the blocking calls when he dips his shoulder. Those are offensive fouls that were never called
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Ohioz Finezt said...
Tim Donaghy was a professionally trained official so i guess all those calls made in the Lakers/Kings series were all correct right? Nevermind the +18 differential to the Lakers, those were 100% correct cause he's a professionally trained official. Duncan's technical for laughing was as accurate and necessary as could be when Joey Crawford T'd him up for laughing with his teammates WHILE sitting on the bench. Yeah you're right, professionally trained officials all know the most, hell they don't even make wrong calls on occasion. Next time i see a foul not called maybe i'll go to the thinking of "the ref didn't call it so it's not a foul, no ifs ands or buts. They are always correct"
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Freize said...
So what your basically saying is the NBA is fixed because Lebron got a ring? Why didn't Stern let Lebron get one last year? Oh that's right its only fixed when Lebron and the Heat win but if they lose they suck and Lebron choked. I guess this is how Cavs fan rationalize things these days.
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Freize said...
So what your basically saying is the NBA is fixed because Lebron got a ring? Why didn't Stern let Lebron get one last year? Oh that's right its only fixed when Lebron and the Heat win but if they lose they suck and Lebron choked. I guess this is how Cavs fan rationalize things these days.
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Ohioz Finezt said...
Did you ever see me say or type that the nba was fixed? Don't think so. I was going along with your' method of thinking that professionally trained officials know the most so don't question them one bit. If you're not a professionally trained official then do NOT disagree with their' calls or think you even know how calls are supposed to be made because you're not a professionally trained official. That's your insinuation spelled to the definition, right?
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Ohioz Finezt said...
Hey if you want to believe that then go right ahead, i've heard plenty of different point of views who aren't cavs fans and have no affiliation to the cavs or Cleveland whatsoever who say the same exact thing that most of us were saying that it wasn't officiated evenly. We're not gonna agree on this and that's perfectly fine, you stand in your position cause i'm definitely standing in mine. "But hurt" Cavs fan huh? I dislike Lebron and do root for him to fail but don't mistake dislike for being "butt hurt." Last year was a joy watching him fail and America loved it as well. I talked shit to my Miami friend last year about it. He was surprised not to hear from me all year about the Heat anymore even through the hard times they went through because it doesn't do a thing to affect my life one bit. The Heat won last nite and i didn't lose not even a second of sleep over it and i even called my friend and congratulated him. This is a message board so i debate on a numerous range of topics here. So if disliking someone or something means you're butthurt then your ass better not dislike anyone or anything. You better think Michigan, Wisconsin, and SEC teams are a great thing and not root against them one bit. After all, sports hatred is should be a myth right?
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Freize said...
You do realize that there are just as many Lebron haters who aren't Cavs fans than who are right? I have never loved any of these teams like you Cavs fans loved Lebron so I don't see the comparison there. But anyway your right I have my opinion and will be standing strong with it as with you. The bottom line is Lebron is a 3 time MVP a Finals MVP, a Champion and will be a Gold medalist(Hopefully) because coach K says he will play in the Olympics.
Now let football season begin so we can all agree on something again.
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supermanbuckeye said...
Wanna know how I know the NBA is a joke?? Steve Nash has two MVPs so LBJ having three means nothing. LBJ may be hated but he's not nearly as hated as Kobe in the states while overseas Kobe is without question the largest sports figure in the world. Lebron is mentioned in rap songs and popular amongst a lot of youth who know very little about loyalty in sports. I feel Cleveland fans. As a Buckeye fan we all should. Hell I see people go stupid if we lose a recruit to scum. Imagine if Jim Tressel left tOSU to go coach up north.
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le crap james gets every call