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psu board is stupid!

  • Agree or not with penalties, this lawsuit is going to only result in the NCAA saying fine, you can have due process, but this deal is out the window and now you are ducked. The courts will have no authority after that. The BIG needs to move on expulsion to avoid branding damages. PSU is done.

    GABuckgrad ●

  • yes, they are nutz. poor souls, some were starting to get past the anger stage. now they have to start over.

    if it's true that the majority of the presidents wanted a 4 year death penalty, then tell PSU...fine, the contract is null and void, then hand out the 4 year DP and launch their own investigation to find other crap.

    This will not turn out good.

    boomboom

  • This is not going to end well for PSU. The board members as well as the Paterno family are taking huge risks, and they will likely not appreciate the outcome. This could implode the whole university if people start sniffing a little deeper. I'd want as little spotlight as I could get in this situation. WOW!

    PSU would be better off if everyone would accept and move on.

    This post was edited by Buckeye1996 on 8/6/2012 at 6:35 PM

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  • A four year death penalty could be nice. This school could end up decertified by the NCAA. Reading the weekend ESPN article tells me the university presidents were sickened by what happened at PSU.

    GABuckgrad ●

  • If what happened at PSU happened at our beloved OSU, we would all be up in arms and say FIGHT IT. So, you can't blame them for wanting to appeal this and fight it. They should. They are not going to win, but they should appeal.

    bucksandsurfing

  • bucksandsurfing said...

    If what happened at PSU happened at our beloved OSU, we would all be up in arms and say FIGHT IT. So, you can't blame them for wanting to appeal this and fight it. They should. They are not going to win, but they should appeal.

    Not me. No way. No how. Accept and move on in this case. All the presidents on the NCAA committee were set on the 4 year death penalty and had to be talked out of it. I'd be happy to remove the microscope and move on knowing the parameters of the punishment.

    Buckeye1996

  • bucksandsurfing said...

    If what happened at PSU happened at our beloved OSU, we would all be up in arms and say FIGHT IT. So, you can't blame them for wanting to appeal this and fight it. They should. They are not going to win, but they should appeal.

    They only thing i'd be worried about, as a fan, is that even a "win" in the courts is unlikely to be a "win". There is zero percent chance that the courts step in and tell the NCAA they cannot rule on the case altogether. Their best argument is the due process argument. But all that will happen will be a basic re-do of the investigation which opens them up to tougher sanctions (like the actual death penalty) if the NCAA so chooses. And it will just drag out the process as Penn State continues to struggle and for a longer period of time.

    AllDay28

  • Buckeye1996 said...

    Not me. No way. No how. Accept and move on in this case. All the presidents on the NCAA committee were set on the 4 year death penalty and had to be talked out of it. I'd be happy to remove the microscope and move on knowing the parameters of the punishment.

    Being the death penalty was not enacted, attempting to do so now is strictly punitive/reactive and is off the table.

    That boat has sailed.

    PSU has nothing to lose.

    chuck0609

  • chuck0609 said...

    Being the death penalty was not enacted, attempting to do so now is strictly punitive/reactive and is off the table.

    That boat has sailed.

    PSU has nothing to lose.

    Absolutely not true. The penalty is not off the table assuming a "retrial', for lack of a better word.

    AllDay28

  • chuck0609 said...

    Being the death penalty was not enacted, attempting to do so now is strictly punitive/reactive and is off the table.

    That boat has sailed.

    PSU has nothing to lose.

    They agreed to the penalties so PSU boat has sailed. They have everything to lose including their football program.

    Too damn risky for them to back out of the agreement THEY made. It cuts both ways and I argue they have nothing to gain.

    Buckeye1996

  • they are back to sounding stupid again, funny stuff.

    boomboom

  • boom*boom* said...

    they are back to sounding stupid again, funny stuff.

    I don't understand it. I really don't. By fighting the sanctions, at minimum the sanctions are what they are but they will have a long drawn out and expensive venture tacked on. At maximum, the NCAA says fack it and shuts them down. The legal systems is not going to do anything in this case except throw Sandusky in jail and put the rest on trial for perjury. Amazing.

    PSU has no leg to stand on. The PSU University prez did not have any chips to play and he came out of the situation as best as he could. I really don't get what will be gained by fighting this on any level.

    Buckeye1996

  • Buckeye1996 said...

    They agreed to the penalties so PSU boat has sailed. They have everything to lose including their football program.

    Too damn risky for them to back out of the agreement THEY made. It cuts both ways and I argue they have nothing to gain.

    From what I've read, the PSU Board did not agree to the penalties, the Board Chair and University President did.

    I'm not sure if this is a high-risk move by the Board. They may have more to lose and one thing is for sure, this horrible affair will stay in the news for weeks and weeks longer.

    The sad story continues and, by the way, none of this is good for OSU in the long run. The Big Ten loses prestige and a once powerful team and OSU picks up an easy win each year over a decimated program.

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  • Buckeye1996 said...

    I don't understand it. I really don't. By fighting the sanctions, at minimum the sanctions are what they are but they will have a long drawn out and expensive venture tacked on. At maximum, the NCAA says fack it and shuts them down. The legal systems is not going to do anything in this case except throw Sandusky in jail and put the rest on trial for perjury. Amazing.

    PSU has no leg to stand on. The PSU University prez did not have any chips to play and he came out of the situation as best as he could. I really don't get what will be gained by fighting this on any level.

    ...at this point...i think it's all about the civil trials...that equals millions of dollars in settlements...this is all about CYA...prepare to see some back-

    stabbing from all of those currently implicated...but not yet punished...

    This post was edited by RenegadeBuck on 8/6/2012 at 8:17 PM

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    RenegadeBuck

  • I do not stick up for the actions there, but I just want to say that the actions of less than 20% of the BOT will not stand up in court and will get overturned and the original sanctions will remain.

    This is not even near a majority.

    Looking forward to great games in the future cheers

    This post was edited by MichRedWingFan77412 on 8/6/2012 at 8:17 PM

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  • Jimmy77 said...

    From what I've read, the PSU Board did not agree to the penalties, the Board Chair and University President did.

    I'm not sure if this is a high-risk move by the Board. They may have more to lose and one thing is for sure, this horrible affair will stay in the news for weeks and weeks longer.

    The sad story continues and, by the way, none of this is good for OSU in the long run. The Big Ten loses prestige and a once powerful team and OSU picks up an easy win each year over a decimated program.

    Also, interesting tidbit I just heard from a buddy of mine who does corporate legal work. His thought is that PSU has a good argument that the President violated the right to act without consulting the board of trustees. But that the BOT won't have grounds to invalidate the contract as he was legally representing the university, just have grounds to terminate and seek damages from the president himself for violating Penn State's own bylaws.

    AllDay28

  • AllDay28 said...

    Also, interesting tidbit I just heard from a buddy of mine who does corporate legal work. His thought is that PSU has a good argument that the President violated the right to act without consulting the board of trustees. But that the BOT won't have grounds to invalidate the contract as he was legally representing the university, just have grounds to terminate and seek damages from the president himself for violating Penn State's own bylaws.

    Not to mention the BOT is made up of around 40 members and I think only 4 of them said they wanted to appeal.

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    MichRedWingFan77412 ●

  • AllDay28 said...

    Also, interesting tidbit I just heard from a buddy of mine who does corporate legal work. His thought is that PSU has a good argument that the President violated the right to act without consulting the board of trustees. But that the BOT won't have grounds to invalidate the contract as he was legally representing the university, just have grounds to terminate and seek damages from the president himself for violating Penn State's own bylaws.

    I have a hard time believing Erickson would flat out violate the by-laws. In a case like this, I would hope that he sought legal advise and was meticulous in determining his right to wield his power as U prez.

    Buckeye1996

  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    Looking forward to great games in the future cheers

    ...that's about all you can look forward to..."great games"...considering a victory is out of the question...

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    RenegadeBuck

  • bucksandsurfing said...

    If what happened at PSU happened at our beloved OSU, we would all be up in arms and say FIGHT IT. So, you can't blame them for wanting to appeal this and fight it. They should. They are not going to win, but they should appeal.

    NO WAY IN HELL........Most here understand the legal process would result in a loss.

    GABuckgrad ●

  • AllDay28 said...

    Also, interesting tidbit I just heard from a buddy of mine who does corporate legal work. His thought is that PSU has a good argument that the President violated the right to act without consulting the board of trustees. But that the BOT won't have grounds to invalidate the contract as he was legally representing the university, just have grounds to terminate and seek damages from the president himself for violating Penn State's own bylaws.

    Again, even a wi in court wins them an opportunity to have the body that would now be pissed off at them handling the investigation. A win is a bigger loss.

    GABuckgrad ●

  • chuck0609 said...

    Being the death penalty was not enacted, attempting to do so now is strictly punitive/reactive and is off the table.

    That boat has sailed.

    PSU has nothing to lose.

    Very poor argument as this is what happens in courts when people reject plea deals......

    GABuckgrad ●

  • GABuckgrad said...

    Very poor argument as this is what happens in courts when people reject plea deals......

    ...hot spot!...hot spot!...hot spot!...

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  • GABuckgrad said...

    Very poor argument as this is what happens in courts when people reject plea deals......

    I stand by my opinion that it will get thrown out of court and the original sanctions will stand. There is not enough people from the BOT that are rejecting the deal.

    This post was edited by MichRedWingFan77412 on 8/6/2012 at 9:05 PM

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    MichRedWingFan77412 ●

  • Some on PeeSU's BOT are succumbing to the desperate demands of the alumni and fans. They are saying the president didn't have the authority to accept the sanctions and say no appeal would be sought without BOT approval. Perhaps, but again they are crying about "due process." Due Process IS Not applicable with NCAA bylaws. The basic wording is again the same as the Paterno family's attempt. The NCAA will simply review the case and deny the appeal. Plain and simple. "Ped State" will then attempt to take this to civil court. This is going to drag out for some time. In the end, they'll still get destroyed. They are guilty as hell! End of story.

    This post was edited by BIGBUCK20 on 8/6/2012 at 9:20 PM

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    BIGBUCK20

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