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ItalianBuck said...
Sully was getting mugged the whole game, he should have had 40 points with the fouls they missed. Buford is pretty worthless lately, he just looks lost most the time he's on the floor. The refs made this game a lot closer than it ever should have been.
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great2belucky said...
IB have you ever watched an ohio state game where the refs werent somehow screwing us over? after every basketball game you cry about how the refs did this and the refs did that and the refs were out to get ohio state. it's really kind of pathetic. wisconsin was called for 15 fouls and ohio state was called for 12 fouls. we attemptd 16 free throws to their 3. how were the refs making this game closer? i dont mean to attack you but i dont think ive read a single comment after a basketball game from you where the refs arent mentioned as making the game closer or the reason for ohio state losing
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ItalianBuck said...
Fair question, first did you watch the game because if you did you would have seen Sully was mugged under the basket and if they would have made the calls I seen he would have scored 40, that was my point. And yeah I may bring up the refs, the away games we've had this year the refs were pathedic!
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great2belucky said...
yes i did, and that's basketball buddy. they can literally call a foul every single time down floor on both teams. sully attempted 10 free throws so it's not like he wasnt getting calls. and that's such a loser mentality, "well we lost let's blame someone else." in every game that ohio state lost this year it has been absolutely no ones fault but ohio states. the refs havent cost us a single game. when we lose in the tournament this season it wont be the refs fault it will be the fact that ohio state runs one of the most pathetic offenses i have ever seen in basketball or simply we ran into the likes of kentucky
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ItalianBuck said...
Even the annoncers said they don't call fouls on Sully because he's big, that don't make it right, that's not basketball that's football. Seems your the only one in this thread who doesn't think the refs have anything to do with the games.
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kelleyredd said...
I try not to even get in the William Buford comments, Buford is the ONLY outside threat on the team and is often required to make the most difficult shots out there. On the scouting report is 1 Sully and 2) Buford. He's done nothing but be a great person for this program, stay all four years and play his butt off.
The notion that he doesn't step up in Big Games is Bullshit!!! He had 21 against Florida, 20 against Duke, and 21 at Kansas (Didn't shoot well but we were under-manned). He's being more aggressive because he is a Senior but even when he's not shooting well he's still a threat and teams respect that threat. He's not a vocal guy and doesn't have big time athleticism but can put the ball in the hole, which is the name of the game.
He's averaging 15pts, 5 boards, and 3 assists per game and only 2 turnovers. If that's a stat line that needs to sit down at the end of the game then you guys really don't know basketball. I guarantee that he will be 1st or 2nd team all Big 10. He's had a very good career at OSU and now he's being knocked for staying all four years. Lighty and Diebler stayed all four years but are loved why the hate for Buford?
He's had 3 single digit games 2 of the 3 were against inferior opponents and we won by over 50 points combined. The other was the loss at IU.
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kelleyredd said...
I try not to even get in the William Buford comments, Buford is the ONLY outside threat on the team and is often required to make the most difficult shots out there. On the scouting report is 1 Sully and 2) Buford. He's done nothing but be a great person for this program, stay all four years and play his butt off.
The notion that he doesn't step up in Big Games is Bullshit!!! He had 21 against Florida, 20 against Duke, and 21 at Kansas (Didn't shoot well but we were under-manned). He's being more aggressive because he is a Senior but even when he's not shooting well he's still a threat and teams respect that threat. He's not a vocal guy and doesn't have big time athleticism but can put the ball in the hole, which is the name of the game.
He's averaging 15pts, 5 boards, and 3 assists per game and only 2 turnovers. If that's a stat line that needs to sit down at the end of the game then you guys really don't know basketball. I guarantee that he will be 1st or 2nd team all Big 10. He's had a very good career at OSU and now he's being knocked for staying all four years. Lighty and Diebler stayed all four years but are loved why the hate for Buford?
He's had 3 single digit games 2 of the 3 were against inferior opponents and we won by over 50 points combined. The other was the loss at IU.
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kelleyredd said...
I try not to even get in the William Buford comments, Buford is the ONLY outside threat on the team and is often required to make the most difficult shots out there. On the scouting report is 1 Sully and 2) Buford. He's done nothing but be a great person for this program, stay all four years and play his butt off.
The notion that he doesn't step up in Big Games is Bullshit!!! He had 21 against Florida, 20 against Duke, and 21 at Kansas (Didn't shoot well but we were under-manned). He's being more aggressive because he is a Senior but even when he's not shooting well he's still a threat and teams respect that threat. He's not a vocal guy and doesn't have big time athleticism but can put the ball in the hole, which is the name of the game.
He's averaging 15pts, 5 boards, and 3 assists per game and only 2 turnovers. If that's a stat line that needs to sit down at the end of the game then you guys really don't know basketball. I guarantee that he will be 1st or 2nd team all Big 10. He's had a very good career at OSU and now he's being knocked for staying all four years. Lighty and Diebler stayed all four years but are loved why the hate for Buford?
He's had 3 single digit games 2 of the 3 were against inferior opponents and we won by over 50 points combined. The other was the loss at IU.
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great2belucky said...
bufords stats in other big games through out his career:
2011
kentucky- 2-16 shooting, 1-3 from 3 and 9 points george mason- 7-14 18 points texas blah blah blah- 7-12 18 points
2010 Tenn- 5-13 for 15 points GT- 4-9 9 points
2009
siena- 4-12 11 points
forgive us for not expecting mr. buford to be very good when the "big games" really come. dude is a choke artist and it's only going to continue. i PRAY that come april 2 you can call me out and say how wrong i was because william carried us to the title, but if we're going to follow history of thad matta teams we will lose to a team that we shouldnt. and it's a shame since we have more talent then every team but kentucky this season
Let's get it!!!
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kelleyredd said...
I try not to even get in the William Buford comments, Buford is the ONLY outside threat on the team and is often required to make the most difficult shots out there. On the scouting report is 1 Sully and 2) Buford. He's done nothing but be a great person for this program, stay all four years and play his butt off.
The notion that he doesn't step up in Big Games is Bullshit!!! He had 21 against Florida, 20 against Duke, and 21 at Kansas (Didn't shoot well but we were under-manned). He's being more aggressive because he is a Senior but even when he's not shooting well he's still a threat and teams respect that threat. He's not a vocal guy and doesn't have big time athleticism but can put the ball in the hole, which is the name of the game.
He's averaging 15pts, 5 boards, and 3 assists per game and only 2 turnovers. If that's a stat line that needs to sit down at the end of the game then you guys really don't know basketball. I guarantee that he will be 1st or 2nd team all Big 10. He's had a very good career at OSU and now he's being knocked for staying all four years. Lighty and Diebler stayed all four years but are loved why the hate for Buford?
He's had 3 single digit games 2 of the 3 were against inferior opponents and we won by over 50 points combined. The other was the loss at IU.
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yes i did, and that's basketball buddy. they can literally call a foul every single time down floor on both teams. sully attempted 10 free throws so it's not like he wasnt getting calls. and that's such a loser mentality, "well we lost let's blame someone else." in every game that ohio state lost this year it has been absolutely no ones fault but ohio states. the refs havent cost us a single game. when we lose in the tournament this season it wont be the refs fault it will be the fact that ohio state runs one of the most pathetic offenses i have ever seen in basketball or simply we ran into the likes of kentucky
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Docmike5509 said...
I agree and disagree. The Wisky game refs seemed to allow a lot of contact under the basket without calling fouls.That made for a physical game inside. But you can't have it both ways. Couple of times there was a lot of contact with players hitting the floor and no call was made(The crowd booed loudly) so you can't have it both ways. There were times I thought Sully was mugged but no call. Then a couple of foul calls on Craft seemed like touch fouls. Overall I thought the refs did a good job on Saturday.
I disagree that the refs never cost us a game. I thought the game at Indy had an atrocious crew that had a bad day. I hope we never see that crew again. I would rather have Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder than that crew.
And finally, since the Bucks are running such a pathetic offense, why don't you just scribble down a few suggestions that would immediately make them better and send them to Thad. Maybe that's unfair, but Thad does know what he is doing and he does see these guys play everyday. And last time I checked they are ranked in the top five in the nation which is really pretty good when you factor in that they are running"one of the most pathetic offense you have ever seen". I think the key to the offense is to get Buford turned around. If he can become "Big Game Bu" then the Buckeyes will really start to roll. I don't know what that will take because he has been MIA in big games for about a year now. His shot percentage just must go up. I know we are all rooting for that to happen. Until then, I believe in Thad.
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great2belucky said...
listen, im not taking away credit from how well these guys are playing defense, so thad deserves praise there. people are saying we were lucky wisconsin missed their wide open 3's yesterday but wisconsin has been horrific at shooting the 3 point in their previous two games going into this game. our defense is great. im not claiming myself to be a basketball coach who can draw plays up but anyone who watches and knows anything about basketball knows our offense sucks. there is ZERO movement on offense. 4 guys surround the perimeter and sully post up. no back door cuts, no screens and no threat of outside shooting. im not saying i have some offensive playbook to make things better but i feel that someone who is considered one of the top 10 coaches in the country could maybe be creative with a few offensive play sets
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odan rot said...
I got ripped for it last year when I said Bufford would disappear against better competition and he bombed out against Kentucky. I expect the same thing to happen this year when the tourney comes in March. He is not elite enough for us to win the title this year. I think we come up short again because teams like Kentucky and Syracuse (if we play them) have the depth and size to neutralize Sully. Just like Kentucky did last year.
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JN Buckeye said...
I love getting a downvote for starting a thread stating what most people are thinking anyway. I didn't say Buford was a bad kid, just he seems to disappear in big games when it's close. Don't give me duke as an example because every buckeye scored on duke like it was a Michigan sorority house. Downvote me on this as well - I love they way Craft plays but a ball handler that shoots 66% free throws will bite this team in the ass at some point.
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woody67 said...
Your nuts.... if anything he proved he won't shoot the ball 15 times when he is ice cold... he is getting rebounds, assist, playing tough D and nailed the big 3 when it mattered and then hits two big free throws..... Thompson is afraid of his shadow and to see him throw up shots and miss would ruin him early in his career.... hell look at what Burford has to put up with an he is averagin 15 pts a game.... OSU is playing too their strenths now....we were on the road in a place we have not won in 12 years.... Matta had not won... the refs sucked as usual but in the end we pull it off because we had maturity in the last 3 minutes...
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