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I'm a bit scared by this. scUM used the basketball game also to help reel in some recruits this past weekend. Can somebody with more knowledge about the signees please make me feel better (like tell me they suck) about scUM reeling in eight 4 star guys in the last few days. Thanks.
I mean there is no way to say that what they did was not impressive however consider this:
1) A good number of those players were not offered by OSU
2) Those who were offered by OSU were HEAVY scUM leans (Fox was born there or something and LTT had been there about a thousand times)
3) One weekend does that dictate a full year of recruiting...OSU and Meyer are going HARD after top top top top top national talent and we will get who we need so keep the faith
4) I would take the four guys we have signed over any of the guys they signed this past weekend
Relax, they got a few committs from some good players. Show me a game breaker or a special talent in that group. Woodard, Marshall and Burrows are special game changing type of players that everyone in the couuntry coveted. Its a long time till signing day and the last time I checked you can only play five O-linemen at a time. My money is on UFM! We both will end up at around 23 committs, some pledge early and some late. Wouldnt trade any of ours for one of theres. We didnt want a Taco or a Butt and the Cass Tech kids are over rated every year. We will get two or three quality OL dont worry.
we have 4 of the top 130 players, 3 of the top 41 and 2 of the top 28. why is everyone freaking out? didnt know the 2013 class was coming to an end already, it's barely the beginning
whats the hurry, coach just waiting til sept. and oct. to separate boys from men. look at the load he brought in just TWO months.
They did have a good haul of recruits. They're going to need them, because I'm convinced ours will be better. If recruiting was a sprint, we might be in trouble, but we have nearly a year before signing day, and I'm sure we're going to pick up many more elite recruits. I'll be surprised if our recruiting class doesn't end up being better than theirs.
Our 4 are game changers! Kids that when put in the game make huge plays no matter what sometimes out of nothing. The ones they have are ok no doubt but dude. There's a diffeence between 4 elites game changers and 8 kids that will make plays every now and then!
This post was edited by Charske 2 years ago
Thanks everyone for commenting. I will be honest and say I truly am not scared and was assuming the same things. Just wanted the additional input of others. Good info everyone....thanks!!!!!!!
Not to mention its February and almost an entire year ahead of NLOID.
No one wins the recruiting war the February prior to NLOID. This OP clearly doesn't follow recruiting nor realize that scUM did that same thing last year. The Buckeyes passed them easily over the course of two months.
Early recruit commitments don't mean much. It's CLEARLY about where you are on NLOID and filling positions based on need.
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.......eh....who cares.....let's see how they turn out on the field. At the end of the day how many 4 stars you get doesn't mean much if they do not pan out for whatever reason.
No reason to panic
Hoke is a fast starter. In the 2012 class, he had commitments from 20 of their 25 recruits before a single one of them had played a game their senior year. He's gotten off to an even faster start this year. Urban, on the other hand, as noted in a recent 11 Warriors article, typically has gotten a good number of his recruits to commit between November and NSD. We need to respect Urban's strategy.
Tuley-Tillman was offered by scUM back in October. The week Urban was hired, Scout ran an article saying they'd be hard to beat. While it would have been nice to have him, we got to him too late. Same with Fox, who camped there last summer. If anything, all this does is underline the importance of building relationships with the top 2014 kids sooner rather than later. I think we'll see a lot of juniors attending home games this year and the guest list for the scUM game on 11/24 will be through the roof.
I don't believe either one of us will have that much room. We currently have 14, and they currently have about 18.
But whatever they have, they 11 they have right now is not the quality we have. For instance how is Taco rate out as 92 when he doesn't even start for his own HS team. And Dymonte Thomas will flip before it is all over with. Their 11 is spent on no skilled positions. They are not nearly as selective as we are.
Wow really...this is how you treat your own....you give negative votes. Thanks a lot to all who did that. Personally, I only give people + or do nothing at all.
Fox was not born in Michigan but I believe he has family in the area.
You have two game changers, Jalin Marshall and Cam Burrows but Billy Price is a workout warrior and inconsistent. Eli Woodward is a very good corner I'll give you that. The difference in the classes are that Michigan has the top QB in the nation and we have 4 top Offensive lineman, 2 in the top 50 overall. Both of our TE commits are very good, Butt being similar to Jimmy Graham in his athleticism and big red zone target. Taco Charlton is an absolute beast and if you want to doubt him starting this is what Josh Helmholdt, the Rivals midwest guy had to say about him "I saw Taco start in the state championship game. I had mixed feelings coming in, but that performance sold me. As he started to get more comfortable in his frame he has learned to utilize his length but also play with good athleticism. I really do like his game." And look at the updated rankings report.
Number 4 above says it all for me! I would even go a bit further and say, given our needs, I would take our 4 guys over all 11 of their guys (how many offensive tackles are on the field at one time?). I do think it was a bit disconcerting at first because landing so many four stars at once rarely happens. Also it is difficult to stomach the Hokester landing any quality recruits--let alone 8 in one weekend (and you gotta know he is out selling his success to unsigned recruits). But, over the next 11 or so months, things will more than even out. You'll see.
Bosch projects to be either a OC or OG along with David Dawson. Logan Tuley-Tillman projects to be a OT and Fox with either be a OG or OT.
The difference in the classes is the number of commits. The next 4 guys to commit to the buckeyes will be great players, I don't think anyone can doubt that. Calling a high school defensive lineman inconsistent is like saying the sky is blue. 99% of big guys in high school you can say this about. I value Charlton's high school coaches opinion of him more than Helmholdt, and his coach doesn't think he's good enough to start for his high school team. Urban will have a top rated Qb in this class, whether it's Zaire or someone else. I would say the #4 corner in the country is a gamechanger, and that's Woodward. How is an OL a gamechanger, but a DT not?
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Because the Oline allows plays to be made. Also provide me a link where Taco's coach says he isn't good enough to start. Seriously you can't really believe that a top 100 guy doesn't start for his high school.
Seriously, he doesn't start, I will find a link, but many posters on this board can tell you that he doesn't. A DT allows LB's and DE's to make plays, so again, what's the differnece?
There is no link don't bother it and the reason other posters on this board will tell you that is because they are OSU junkies. Not that DTs can't be play makers but it is extremely rare and Billy Price definitely isn't a play maker
Somebody let the OP know scUM didn't SIGN anyone on Saturday. NLOID is still another 330+ days away. They got some verbals from some nice talent. Whoopie friggin doooo!
Let's not fool ourselves...chicken's haul over the weekend was pretty darned good. And as Bids pointed out, the tackles and move to guard if necessary. They'll have a formidable line, make no bones about it.
But I don't think they're going to have the playmakers we're going to have, and our D-Line looks to be frighteningly good. They have a great eight, but our four are still better and and when we get the next round of committs, we're going to be sitting VERY nicely. Quite possible we end up with NO three star or lower recruits and a couple five-stars. Imagine the average strength of this class...no matter whether we get 14, 18, or 23 (I strongly doubt), we'll have a monster class no matter where TSUN finishes with respect to us in the "rankings"....
Michigan is still on good position for eventual 5* Ty Isaac and 4* Laquon Treadwell. We will be fine. We also have Dymonte Thomas who is a playmaker.
I am not going to argue the DT point anymore. It's foolish to day that OL are playmakers, but DT are not. Only Michigan junkies are saying this guy is fantastic. Look up his high school season stats..
2010 35 tackles 1 Fumble recovery 0 sacks
2011 stats not available
Yeah, he's a real beast.
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