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Catdaddyh said...
I CAN'T believe I am seeing this NEGATIVE Thread coming out of the Spring Game already. Tyrone Williams is receiving praise and so was Farris. And Joel Hale was in the two deep as a True Freshmen. WOW WTF Urban is not going to allow any STUDS to quit the team. He made that point very clear. He is not interested in recruiting Big Classes. He wants Mickey to get the kids in great shape and keep the ones he has. And everyone wants to recruit more OL, and kick Tommy Brown off the team? Why? He is just fine. Leave him alone! How many HS kids out there is better than Tommy Brown at OG, let alone OT? We don't need him to play Tackle. He was a fill in for Dodson who is not enrolled yet. He should be playing OG. As far as Tyrone goes, how often do you find mismatches like this in College Football? A 6-6 WR setting up in the slot going up against a small SS in Goal Line situations? Perfect Situations for 2 Point Conversions, Short Gainers, Etc. Unbelievable Mismatches that those Bozos last year never capitalized on!
And if Carter continues to impress in Gametime situations, then I dont see much talentwise attrition. The only attrition I see is the unforeseen disciplinary, medical, and academic.
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BUCKTOWNSON said...
Thank you CO Dank. What I think everyone forgets is this is business. I'm sure the coaches sit down with certain players and certain players sit with coaches and discuss the future. This happens every year at every school. This isn't high school where everyone makes the team or pee wee where everyone plays. When I made this post I was thinking in terms of the players not fitting the system or just fitting in period and deciding to leave. New system and new coaches, this happens. Urban doesn't want big classes? What a joke. #1 he will not be able too for the next few cycles and once again this is business so what....... Urb will one day be sitting at 20 players and can take 25 and he says wait!!!! No more in this class.......can you be anymore foolish to think that. He will take every player that he wants, can get and fit with the #s. Reality people. Some will leave, some will be forced to leave for one reason or another. Period. This is how it's been and always will be. Although I do understand most people have only delt with one side of the fence with a big glass of cool-aid. When your ready to piss in the tall grass let us reality thinkers know.
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kellen1 said...
I dont think anybody is upset at the talk of attrition but rather the callousness in which many on this board speak about it.. There are so many posters who sit on here wishing that so and so will leave so UFM can bring in another recruit. That is where I get upset... I'll never wish or hope for the downfall of any of these players... Let attrition happen naturally lets not root for it to occur with certain people.
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iowabuckeyes said...
I didn't DV you only because you didn't name names. But considering you invited other people to do what you didn't, I should have.
Maybe we should kick you off the board for having too many DVs and only 4-stars. I mean, seriously, we want respectable posters on this board, right? People who are adding value? But I'm assuming there's a good explanation for how someone with only 20 posts has alienated enough people to have only 4 stars so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
But wouldn't kicking you off the board be a fair analogy to what you're unfairly advocating--running guys off the team because they're not contributing to your high standards? If you want to be given the benefit of the doubt and taken seriously, shouldn't you give THEM the same consideration?
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BUCKTOWNSON said...
When did I say that? Really I'm seriously starting to wonder about you. Down vote. Do whatever you feel. This isn't my life and claim to fame as it is yours. Last time I checked this is the good ol United Staes of America. I do what I feel and say what I like. What I'm clearly saying about Bobek is (if you read it) NO ONE DESERVES TO SIT ON ANY TEAMS 3 DEEP!!!! Did you READ that? Any chance you caught that? Or are you reading what you want? Soaking in only what you want? My father played at this great University. I have a way different perspective on this. Way different then yours because of what and who I was brought up by. For some reason you seem to think these players care so much about this.....what fans might say or write. Let me tell you first hand.....they do not. Read everything I say a few times before you respond please! The great 5 star.....what a joke bahaha
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mabbucknut said...
I agree with you that most of the players don't care about what is said on a message board, however, some do actually read and care about boards. However, these are 18 to 22 year old kids that do care what others think about them. Pryor once tweeted a negative comment from a message board and went off about it. Williams' family was on these very boards when people were ripping him. A member of Stoney's family has frequented the boards as well as the Shugarts family. So you may feel that no one cares about these boards, but some of the players and families have and do read these boards. I don't know if you have kids, but how would feel if people were ripping your son behind a message board? I can promise you they at least talk to their kid about it and it is not a positive conversation. Just something to think about.
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BUCKTOWNSON said...
When did I say that? Really I'm seriously starting to wonder about you. Down vote. Do whatever you feel. This isn't my life and claim to fame as it is yours. Last time I checked this is the good ol United Staes of America. I do what I feel and say what I like. What I'm clearly saying about Bobek is (if you read it) NO ONE DESERVES TO SIT ON ANY TEAMS 3 DEEP!!!! Did you READ that? Any chance you caught that? Or are you reading what you want? Soaking in only what you want? My father played at this great University. I have a way different perspective on this. Way different then yours because of what and who I was brought up by. For some reason you seem to think these players care so much about this.....what fans might say or write. Let me tell you first hand.....they do not. Read everything I say a few times before you respond please! The great 5 star.....what a joke bahaha
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iowabuckeyes said...
Bullshit. How can you claim these kids don't pay attention to what fans say when you're getting all bent out of shape by something I'VE said? Who are YOU to suggest 18-23's have thicker skins than anyone else? When your old man played for OSU, technology like the Internet and Twitter and texting that allow people to say anything they want about anyone they want while hiding behind a coward's cloak of anonymity and the good ol First Amendment's right to free speech didn't exist. The only criticism came from the media. But even then, it was hard for young men to deal with being crucified in the press.
If you're not going to have a 3-deep, why do we need 85 scholarships? Do the math, genius: 22 x 3 = 66 - 85 = 19 for specialists and 4th stringers. So why not just draw the line at 50 scholarships and make the rest walk-ons? Hell, why not just pick our 8 best DLs and run the rest of them off?
And by the way, I have a nephew playing CFB. His father played at OSU. I have a brother in law who's an assistant coach at a BCS school so while your "experience" goes back a generation when pagers and faxes were all the rage, these guys are dealing with it today. They care about what people are saying about them. They wouldn't be human if they didn't.
Dumbass.
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BUCKTOWNSON said...
If they are pay attention to critics...... then the players attention is in the wrong place and he will never be successful. This is the way losers think. Worried about what people say so much they lose focus. How you talk is classic loser talk. If you listen to every champion they say we do not pay attention to what critics say and if they are..... they use it for positive motivation. A person like you will use it to be cry babies and say this is why we can't get better. Also your Mom is a dumbass since you want too throw low blows like a idiot you are. You're weak and could never be a leader because you would only make these type of excuses for failure. Also when did i say it shouldn't be a 3 deep? If you read it idiot......I was saying talent wise if you get recruited to OSU like Bobek a 4 star he shouldn't and I wouldn't want to see his talent wasted sitting on the 3 deep. NO ONE DESERVES THAT. Will you please learn how to read and comprehend what people are writing before you lash out with foolish rants. Ultimate coward and hypocrite. Everything you fight me on you in turn do to me. Me a coward? lol I think you were looking in the mirror when you type that bullshit.
This post was edited by iowabuckeyes on 4/28/2012 at 5:28 PM
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