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Surprised I hear so little talk about Jent. He was one of my favorite OSU players, but I really am not sure about him as a coach. It's hard to really evaluate assistant coaches in basketball since you don't know exactly what they do (much harder than say football coaches whose role is more defined). However, it was my understanding that he was supposed to be a shooting coach, and the results have not been pretty. Between Buford last year and Craft this year, the shooting is really bad. I think it is still early in the season to be too critical of Craft or any of the other shooters, but it is odd that I heard all offseason about Craft doing a ton of shooting and not only has his shot been atrocious but his form looks really poor.
The other thing an assistant coach can really do is recruit and Jent has not done that to my knowledge. I think Dickerson pulled in the guy from Maryland and Boals has been a solid recruiter. Frankly, though, recruiting seems a bit off since guys like Miller and Groce moved on.
I am no insider and maybe Jent is doing a great job, but thought I would open up the discussion since shooting is a major weakness of this team (and last year's as well IMO, at least compared to previous OSU teams).
Agree: Shooting is poor, recruiting lags. Since the sophomore class, Kameron Williams, other than Amadeo Della Valle and the walk-ons, is the only recruit we've gotten in two years. Marc Loving committed like 2 1/2+ years ago. So easy to say the Millers and Groce - they were great assistants and now, as head coaches, Sean Miller (Arizona), Archie Miller (Dayton) and Groce (Illinois) have a combined record of 32-4. Outstanding.
Jent had only NBA coaching experience when he came here. He was new to recruiting. His impact has been on offensive sets, side-to-side ball movement and drawing up plays during time outs.
AC's mechanics have improved a bit - the hitch is a little less noticeable, but obviously, something is wrong when you shoot 26-30%. He needs to keep working on his mechanics but he needs to just keep shooting. Right now, it's a confidence thing. It's mental. They need to keep shooting.
I want to hear more stories about AC going to the gym at 2 in the AM, like he did with Deibler two years ago, to get better. I want to hear more about them encouraging each other to get up 500 shots a day outside of practice, like Lighty and Turner always said. I am less concerned about mechanics than repetition.
Shoot, you'll never be a good shooter until you keep shooting.
What have you done today to beat TTUN?
I agree AC needs to see the ball go in about 3or 4 times in a row to get his confidence up. I disagree about the hitch being the problem . I've seen several NBA and college players with ugly shots be successful shooting the ball. Repetition and confidence .
I completely agree that confidence is a big part of ACs issue right now. With that said, form matters, especially on mid-range jumpers which AC was really good at for a lot of last year. Better form leads to a softer shot, which is more likely to go in than clank off the rim. It also means getting the shot off faster, that hitch allows defenders that extra fraction of a second to close or get a hand in his face.
I'm not even saying its Jent's fault or that AC won't shoot better later in the year, but we cannot deny that our shooting has really hurt us this year. There were a ton of wide open looks vs. KU that did not fall.
At least thus far into it, I don't think it can be disputed that the results have been poor. Buford and now Craft both seem to be highly coachable guys, so it is hard to understand why they got worse under Jent's tutelage. Jent had success with LeBron as his shot improved dramatically, so he must know something.
I think we have to accept the fact and realize that shooting a basketball is a skill and not a given. It requires great hand/eye coordination the same way hitting a baseball does. Now, shooting from distance is much easier than hitting a baseball but it's not a skill that all players can attain. Just having a shooting coach and practicing countless hours in the gym will not get it. For some guys you can either shoot or you can't. Buford could shoot but had head issues....Craft does not have a good stroke and will never be a great shooter. Look at Rondo at Boston....if he could shoot he would be the best point guard in the nba and a top 5 player. I'm sure he's worked on it but players can only get to a certain level. To expect Craft, Scott, Thompson, etc. to become great shooters in unrealistic....we have to hope they can at least develop an average outside shot.
whatever it is.....this team needs to grow up in a hurry. We make ourselves SO EASY to defend when no one can consistently score outside of DT.
I am really surprised at how badly we shot against Kansas. That was a great opportunity for this team to take a major step forward.....all it really did was expose us even further.....
Craft really does not even need to shoot that much.......he needs to create for others and players like Ross, LSJ, Slam Thompson need to fill it up....
craft being able to shoot from the outside would open up the middle more for him to drive and dish to the other guys. right now the middle is clogged because no one can hit from the outside and our big guys are no offensive threat at all. because crafty handles the ball so much, his shooting well from the outside would open things up more for the other players. smith is more athletic and can jump much higher than craft but he seems to release the ball too far from the basket on a lot of his drives and often doesn't come close to making the shot or getting fouled. last year craft seemed to get all the way to the basket much more often than he has been able to do this year.
You have a point that great shooters are born more than made, but practice is a key regardless of what you are born with. I've watched Mike Conley Jr. in action here in Memphis and there is no doubt he has improved his shot every year and is now a proficient guy from the 3-point line. This is something he didn't show much in college.
I was wrong to say that we've only had one recruit after ADV in 2 years, two others from the class of 2014: 6'7" Keita Bates-Doip, from Turner's Illinois AAU team and Jae'Sean Tate 6'5" from Pickerington (OH) Central. Both will contribute early because they are physical. Go Bucks!
This post was edited by BBTGTal 16 months ago
Can they shoot ?
God! Another topic about how bad the basketball team is and who's fault it is.
Someone's to blame. This team, other than DT, can't hit the broad side of a barn. They look awful.
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