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as a fan i would just like to know more. why he did not play specifically. i agree with all the posters so far, would like to see him play more. a transfer on his part would really hurt. we may never know why because matta seems to not make things with the team public knowledge. i guess that is okay for the team but very frustrating for the fans. unwavering trust in our coach is one thing and wanting to know is another. go q and go bucks.
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One day we will probably sit back watching him take over a game with his entire team on his shoulders like we did with Offutt. To bad it may be on a different team like Offutt.
To me this Ross situation is a huge mistake. Maybe the biggest Matta has made so far. It was inexcusable for him to get 0 minutes in the second half. Barring an injury we don't know about, there is no reason that will make sense to me.
This was a .500 Purdue team and he had a great first half. If he can not get in in this situation, when can he get in?
The only way he comes back is if Thomas goes pro and Matta convinces him that he will get all of his minutes.
I don't see any similarities between Turner and Ross. Turner was playing team ball and didn't think shoot first until his Jr year when the team needed him. He was very versatile.
I'm not sold on confidence. He has not been solid and consistent - there are flashes of things to come.
If anything, he reminds me of a young Thomas who needs to learn to play within the system and play defense
I feel his lack of playing time is largely due to his bad defense - he is slow with his feet
Once he can step up his D I think Matta will gain more comfort having him on the court
You are making some fair points. But, I would argue that Craft and Scott are both doing pretty well in the assists to turnover ratio. I think they have the collective ability to place tremendous defensive pressure on the opposing guards and get turnovers and some lay-ups. They can both push the ball, get to the rim, and dish when necessary in transition. Their penetration - even in the half court - can also lead to some inside scoring from Williams on dunks or Ravenel who has a decent offensive game inside 15 feet. Don't discount the impact that Craft's opening steal and layup had against Purdue. I agree this combo makes DT a little easier to defend in a half-court offense, especially if neither of the guards, or forwards Smith, Thompson, or Ross, can hit from the outside. But DT is a good transition player, especially when he gets the hot hand.
The goal is to get points in fast break and transition, as opposed to half-court sets. In other words, the combination of Craft and Scott is intended to increase the ratio of fast break and transition possessions to half-court possessions through the first 30-35 minutes of the game. Build a lead first, and go to the half court to run clock later in the game.
I don't think there is a huge negative impact on our rebounding with a smaller line-up as all our guys seem to make the effort to box out and get the board. For smaller guys, Scott, Craft, and Smith all rebound well. They are all physically strong pound for pound and battle for position and aggressively go after the ball.
I think Matta does a great job overall and there aren't many coaches out there who are better. This season, he has adjusted and addressed one of his two weak points in establishing an 8-man rotation. He is sticking with this even though Ross hasn't played up to his abilities yet. But Matta's second weakness as a coach is that he always lets the opponent dictate tempo and style of the game. He plays their game. Using the Craft-Scott combo would give us an identity of pressuring the ball and make opposing coaches adjust and counter by game planning around it. Matta is not exactly a guy who draws up the plays in a half court game, which is why he has had such a tough time in some of these games and why last years team (with Sullinger) lost more than they should have given the type of talent we had.
I agree, Aaron Craft is the heart and soul of this team. He may have been in a little slump but it certainly wasn't because of lack of effort. This young man is an absolute fearless competitor every minute he's on the floor. It's great situation because he and Shannon are just making each other better but those thinking Scott should be getting more minutes than Craft is laughable.
It's called defense fellas. On the road with a much needed win Matta went d and experience. I don't know why that is hard to grasp.
I see it.
Ohio State just defeated #2 Michigan and Ross barely played...
I mean I hope the kid succeeds as much as the next Buckeye but let's face it. He's not as good as some of you are saying.
I think the talent is there i think he has a bad attitude (twitter posts from last year) and he looks like he never hits the weight room, also when you see him on the bench he seems to never hand shake or even talk to other players. IMHO he could be really good he just don't get the work ethic thing yet,his defense is bad!
Ross has the talent! Look at the Duke game! He was getting to the basket at will in the first half keep us the lead and giving us offense! Then he didn't play in the 2nd half!? Defense will only get you so far! Eventually you'll have to score points and he gives us that other option. When he gets extended minutes he is productive on he offense of end. Early in the season against some terrible teams Ross was putting up 20 points. Granted those teams aren't as talented as a Duke or Michigan but 20 points is still 20 points. He can put the ball in the hoop. Also he is a good rebounder. He is tall and athletic. It kills me when we go through stretches like yesterday and Matta continues to play Smith and Thompson who are no threat offensively behind 5 feet!!
Smith is our best 3-point shooter at just over 42%, shooting 4 and making just under 2 a game. He also has 33 rebounds in 4 B1G games, good for over 8 a game. He's a 6'4" guard....that's nuts.
Thompson is the best pure athlete and can make plays no one else can, whether it's blocking shots, good defense, grabbing huge boards, or bouncing all up and down the court.
Put it this way: Ross is averaging 17 minutes per game, and through 16 games he has 30 turnovers. Smith, Jr. and Thompson are averaging a combined 51 minutes per game (34 more than Ross)....and have a COMBINED 43 turnovers. In exactly 1/3 of their minutes, Ross has over 2/3 the amount of turnovers. That's why Matta doesn't put him in in close situations. Why would he, when as the player with the 7th most minutes, Ross' got more turnovers than everyone else on the team?
The kid might be a great offensive talent, but he's a liability in close games.
We lost the Duke game because of a lack of a solid 7 footer. Not because of lack of playing time for Ross.
I do not see us matching up favorably against Indiana. Time will tell.
For this team to get past the sweet 16 Ross will be key. He just isn't there yet. This whole team has lots of upside let's just enjoy the growth and cheer on the effort. Hopefully by the dance these guys will know who they are.
For this team to go far it would help even more than Ross scoring, if Amir Williams could step up and hang on to half the passes and rebounds he touches. Not to mention if he actually had a few moves and was a viable low post scoring threat. It would create open shots for the rest of team. Unfortunately I think it is wait until next year or longer for this to happen.
This post was edited by BlueHenBuckeye 18 months ago
Boy, do I ever agree with this! Game-day coaching is a thing of the past at tOSU. Good recruiter, good guy, poor game coach!
If you have no one who can outplay a big, slow, cumbersome Plumlee, you are in dire straights!
By reading your posts I think you need this...
My Reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcqGGMPc3k
Perhaps you simply cannot grasp the general workings of basketball? I'm not sure
And Plumlee slow and cumbersome?
Again... Wow here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdXHHvZek1U May I remind you he is 7 feet tall.
So wait... do you really want facts to prove Thad Matta is a good coach??? Or what... do you really think you could couch coach better than him from your home?
P.S. I'm not just ripping on this guy, but to all who have gotten this idiotic idea in their head that Thad Matta can't coach on the floor. The man has done more for Ohio State basketball than anyone else in tOSU school's history.
Couldn't agree more.
I've been amazed at our armchair coaches who think they know more than Matta about game day coaching!!! Not only do people who really know about basketball like Dakich and Kellog often comment on how Matta is a very under rated game day coach, but former players say the same thing. I think our armchair coaches aren't bright enough to realize just how naive, foolish, and childish they sound!!!
Matta is a great coach, Ross is a good player who will get better, his place right now is coming off the bench, he can light it up, at times, I think Matta plays him about right, this year...
This post was edited by BuckeyePastor 18 months ago
JOHN 14:6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."
Turner played DEFENSE and looked like an athlete and had a better attitude, Ross looks weak and to me is one dimensional, shooter only! His defense SUCKS! sometimes when on the floor he looks lost.
I don't think he can transfer again unless it's to NAIA or lesser division of the NCAA.
Offutt would have never gotten the time here like he did at OU, I think the transfer was the best thing for him. He needed the playing time to get better, worked great for him. Offutt always played DEFENSE!! Not Ross!
We were lucky to even be in the game vs DUKE! With the talent gap and experience we almost pulled off the upset. I think with this post you answered your own question!
Our guards are way better than Indiana's, I think this game is a tossup!
Harry, no one ever said that Matta can't coach. What I'm saying and others apparently agree is that his in-game coaching skills is not his greatest strength as a coach. Matta has taken the program to a place where it has not been since the early 1960's when basketball was just an afterthought. He's a great recruiter and has done a great job. Is he a good X's and O's guy? Sure. Is he a great X's and O's guy? I don't think so. His predeccesor, O'Brien, was known throughout all of basketball as a great game coach. He could X and O with the best of them. Not a great recruiter. If I had to choose one skill set over the other I would want a great recruiter as you can't win the NC without talent. I just get concerned with his lack of trust in his bench and some of his game adjustments if he will ever really win a NC. Over the past 6 or 7 years he has certainly had talented enough teams to have won a title but can't get over the hump. Time will tell. I love where the program is at I'm just not sure he can get us to the promised land.
O'Brien was a suckie recruiter, living in Serbia half the time. I remember way to many poor offensive games after Brown and Boban left. There is no comparison with TM.
What have you done today to beat TTUN?
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