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Missed a lay up
Missed another lay up
Missed the front end of the 1 and 1
Missed the front end of another 1 and 1
Committed an unforced turnover
Committed a silly foul to give Iowa State two free throws
*Made a lay up and and 1*
Threw up a bad shot and got fouled(Missed 1 of 2 free throws)
Missed an open jumper
I was so pissed and ready to put this loss on him.....and then..... The Shot.
He wins the game. Wow. This guy is gonna make me have a stroke.
It was driving me crazy and I had to walk away from the tv... had my brother telling the good plays from another room. Go bucks
Granted Craft had a crucial several minutes where he was hurting us but you know some how he'll find a way to battle back. Amir Williams on the other hand is hurting us more than ever. He is an offensive liability and quickly becoming one on defense too.
I 'm still in shock over this victory.
I don't understand Amir. He was suppose to be all that, but wow. He just looks to be a soft player. Maybe they need to get him some bulk and toughness. Have him go one on one with Rav.
This post was edited by DaytonBuckeye 13 months ago
it's both williams and ravenel that are killing us. two points between them . absolutely no toughness under the boards.
had the buckeyes lost this one craft definitely would have been the goat. he made a lot of really poor choices and missed those two or three foul shots.
despite that you can't say enough about his mental toughness to take and make that last shot which certainly will go down as one of the biggest big game shots in osu history.
let's also give a ton of credit to a really good iowa state team that absolutely shot the lights out in the last seven or eight minutes of the game. how were they a ten seed???
great offensive game by ross, pretty good games for smith and thompson. thomas also came up big.
now if we only had a center..........
Outrebounded by 15.
Craft had a nice game other than that three or four minute stretch. A lot is put on his shoulders. I thought we went into our "prevent" offense a bit prematurely.
I agree that Amir really disappointed. He had four inches on everyone on ISU's team but was a complete non-factor. We were crushed on the glass today, although that is on the whole team. I would have liked to have seen more DT down low, too.
Overall, a great win. There are no gimmees from here on out.
Really overall we played an above average game. Our shooting was about as good as it's been and we forced some good turnovers. If we hadn't been outrebounded like a bunch of girls we would have blown them out regardless of the fact that Iowa State also shot really well even when under a lot of distress. Lucious went 5-7 and at least 3 of those makes were very very difficult shots. Craft missing those 1 and 1's really hurt us but we fought off an absolute Cyclone onslaught and won down the stretch. I know it was a terrible game for our bigs but really Iowa State shoots a lot of 3's and that means a lot of long rebounds. It's sort of a bad matchup for us because we don't have a scoring big to just dominate them.
No disrespect to OP but IMO Craft was not that "Super" at the end of the game. We blew a 13 point lead in 2 minutes.
Amir to me is frustrating to watch currently.
I don't think he was super either. That was sarcasm. I have been really critical of Crafts ballhogging and I am not the biggest Craft fan at all. I actually think this team always plays better team ball when Scott runs the show. He actually got away with a blocking foul today that would have probably decided the game too. I will take it though. I would be screaming conspiracy and bloody murder if I was a Cyclone fan.
Not a Craft fan? Do you watch him play defense?? LOL. It is your opinion and you have a right to it, even though most will disagree. I would also disagree with you on Scott running the show. How many times has Craft made a midrange jumper or a layup off of a pick. And how many times has Scott done this? Now if you're talking running the show in transition then I couldn't agree more. You can call out Craft for ball hogging if you want but Thompson can't take it to the hole well. Smith Jr a little better but still not as good as Craft. Amir Williams and Rav LOLOL. DeShaun can't really drive that well either although he can definitely create his own shots. You don't see Scott making many jumpers or even layups within the flow of the offense. Really Craft (to me) is the only option.
The block/charge call was far too difficult of a call to really get into a heated debate about. I'm sure you can scream bloody murder about a lot of calls/no calls ala our first few jumpers and us getting fouled, no call.
Calm Down there cowboy. I am a Buckeye fan. How can you argue with how "I" personally feel about Craft? I said if I was a Cyclone fan I would be crying about that call. As far as running the team, Craft does not see the entire floor like Scott does. Scott is a true point guard, Craft is a good basketball player who happens to have the height and build of a point guard so that is what he plays. Against a press, on the break, passing to backdoor screens, penetrate and dish, all of these are things that Scott is better at. Scott is also a better rebounder and maybe the fastest with the ball I have ever seen in a Buckeye uniform. Craft is a hard worker who wants to carry the team on his back too much for my liking. It was not working out earlier in the year, but he has stepped up big lately. Let's not fool ourselves though, Craft was most of the reason the game was even close. We were up by 13 when he basically fell apart and allowed them back up.
And for the record, me liking or not liking a player has nothing to do with if they are good or not. I hated Zach Williams because he never dunked(ok once, but he traveled) and always yelled for no reason. I did not like Bill Robinson because he always fell down. I don't like Ravenal because he always makes a confused face and acts surprised when he makes bad plays. I did not like Charles Macon because he looked weird like he had no neck. I did not like Sullinger much because he had no hops. They were all decent players. Do I have your permission to like whoever I want to like? And be a fan of who I want to? My favorite all time Buckeyes- Jim Jackson, Turner, Ron Lewis, Oden, Redd, Brian Brown, Matt Sylvester.
No matter what he did or didn't do I would not trade Craft for any other G in the NCAA ... JMHO
This post was edited by BuckeyePastor 13 months ago
JOHN 14:6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."
You are being a real sour apple and downer.
I don't know where you have been the last half of the season, but it has been settled and it is now old news that the team plays its best with Craft and Scott in the game together. Simply put, your "either-or" argument is the wrong argument to be making.
This tandem will be needed to exploit the advantage we have at the guard position in order to beat Arizona, who has looked as good as any team in the field over its first two blow-out victories.
Now...this will come as a shocker to many posters who have been down on Amir Williams. He is going to come up big over the next couple games. Everyone is going to be asking where this guy has been all year.
That wouldn't be good Rav would trip fall into him and break his leg or blow out his knee!
Both are pretty much useless at this point. We are going into the sweet 16 with no post player!
VillageidiotBuckeye !you forgot Mike Conley, Jamar Butler please spare us your expert analysis we can see from your post you have no basketball knowledge!
We blew a 13 point lead because Craft played like he was sick or didn't feel well. My question what is his season FT% ? 77% If he makes the 1-1's were not even having this conversation!
He showed he is a true leader and elite player wanting and taking the final shot!
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by FredFlintsone 13 months ago
I know this thread is about Craft but I think with Amir this is the beginning of the end for him. He's very fortunate that Matta does not have a big man in next years class. However, this is bad news for OSU fans. Amir, just does not seem to get it. He's soft, has terrible hands and has very little basketball instincts. When he does manage to catch the ball he always brings it down so that smaller players can strip it. For me though it's less about his skill level and all about his demeanor. He just doesn't seem to have a fire in his belly. He seems content on the bench. Sometimes I'm embarrassed for him to be a 7 footer that cannot contribute. But if he doesn't have anymore pride in his game than this he is toast. It's obvious the staff has very little confidence in him and with his seeming lack of desire he will eventually just fade away. You could see a lot of Ross, Thompson, Smith, Scott and Craft playing together next year. Perhaps McDonald can develop some because we are going to need help in the post next year.
This post was edited by shep777 13 months ago
Amir is going to show up over the next couple games, I can see some dunks, baby hooks, solid defense, blocked shots, and rebounds in the forecast. I'll say he averages 8 points, 6 boards, and 3 blocks per game over the next two. We are all going to be scratching our heads and asking where this guy has been all year. I'm not sure why, but I agree with shep's critique that he just hasn't appeared to be focussed and engaged for most of the season. I don't see it as the beginning of the end, I see it more as the turn-around that we have all been waiting patiently for.
Getting out of the area on a long road trip to LA is going to be good for his psychy. He will be facing some really tough front court players from Arizona and he isn't expected to do much against them. He's overdue and it is his turn to step it up (like we saw Thompson and Ross do in the last couple games) if we are going to make it to the final four.
Next year? We could really use some help this year!
Everyone has a right to like or not like a player, however, based on your list of players much of it seems to be more based on personal issues as opposed to basketball issues.
Regarding yesterday's game, yes he had a bad stretch, most players do at some point, but he didn't let it get to him and made the big play at the end. His forcing turnovers also kept OSU in the game while the Bucks were getting out rebounded.
Does Craft try to carry the team on his back? Sure, but as a point guard he should do a certain amount of that. He's hardly a ball hog and if someone else stepped up to be the 2nd or 3rd scorer on the team this season, Craft would gladly give up shots.
In the end Scott may be a better point guard than Craft, but for now I'm happy that both are on the Buckeyes. While AC does have some limitations, he maximizes what he has. How good would this team be if you could say the same thing about 2-3 other players.
OSU may lose at some point on this run, but more than likely it won't be because of Craft.
Boy, I really hope you are right! We need him to step it up.
And through it all Craft's Dad never flinched while watching in the stands. Guess we know where Aaron gets the ice water from.
I would've been puking my guts out!
I feel like Tressel taught Matta how to play with a lead, late in the game! I can't f'ing stand it.
No excuses for any Craft errors, but when you play that much time in a game you have to have tired legs....it has caught up wiht Thomas and Craft....the legs effect your lift on FT shots and timing...I have to look at the glass half full at the end of that game instead of it being half empty...we made the plays to win it...now we "survive and advance.".....
While what you are saying seems to be a HUGE stretch, I am praying you are right and see something I don't!
If you are not right, OSU next year without DT, and Ravenal, is going to be a disaster down low In The Post! UNLESS we find a JC, or a transfer at the 5, next years team while great 1-3 and ok at 4, will not be able to match up with bigger teams. We will be lucky to make it past the second round if we do not find a decent 5 player.
Jag I got to give it to you Amir made some quality plays tonight. Good call.
He made a couple of plays as opposed to making none at all. This is not stepping up very big steps. He and Ravenel AGAIN did very little. Ravenel's rebound bounce pass outlet on the fast break was a thing of beauty but other than that they did very little.
Craft made a bunch of good plays, played good but not great defense, but missed at least four layups, committed a very silly foul toward the end of the game, lost the ball on that last drive to the basket and again missed the front end of two one and ones. he may be trying to do too much as I think he was early in the season.
Ross stepped up HUGE not only at the end but throughout most of the time he was in there. Thompson who didn't play that much also played well. Both Ross and Thompson who are good jumpshooters, need to catch and shoot much more than they do. Jag will disagree but I didn't think Scott contributed a whole lot tonight. Thomas got off to a bit of a tough start but he is a pure shooter and shooters have to shoot.
I hope Wichita State doesn't have too many big guys. Great clutch win!!!!!!!
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