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If OSU basketball doesn't go to the Elite 8

  • KellyRed,you might as well get an early start so you won't be late.This team,used very lightly in describeing OSU is going no where.I think there confidence is broken and there must be some bad chemistry some where.Scott,shooting his mouth off,I don't see that he brings any thing.Many other things going on also.I noticed in the first half Sat.that one time there were four OSU guys standing around,all had a spot and no body moving,they just stood there and watched Craft with the ball.They talk about how young they are,make excuses because they are young?What the hell is KY.I don't thing OSU can beat any body in the top ten,could probably make some money on the line in the next five teams after that.I love me some OSU but they look like a high school team.No three ballers that get any respect,and that leaves two and three guys to cover Sullinger so they can hack and chop and push him around.He reminds me of the kid after school that always gets smacked around because they won't take up for themselves or can't.Sullinger is a pussy.He does not play big,and generally or go back to high school he is the biggest kid on the floor.But he doesn't play mean and everyone is taking advantage of it.Not good,painfull at times to watch.I sure don't have the answer for it......Go Bucks,let's get it on.......

    georgianut

  • First of all the op is docked right out of the chute for talking basketball on a football forum.

    Secondly, who in heck do you think you are to give anybody crap for speaking out against Buford?

    I may not know all the nuances and subtleties of the game as you experts supposedly do...but the numbers don't lie. When we need Buford in big games he disappears.

    Our loss at Kansas without Sully...Buford goes 8 for 23 and 1 for 6 from three point land.

    Our loss at Indiana...Buford goes 3 for 7 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss at Illinois...Bufor goes 7 for 18 and 1 for 3 from three point land.

    Our loss against Michigan State...Buford goes 2 for 12 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss against MIchigan...Buford goes 3 for 12 and 0 for 3 from three point land.

    Buford is streaky at best. He either needs to step his game up when the lights are hot in a big game or we need a coach with the balls to sit him to get his attention. What I find interesting is that's exactly what Purdue did with two starters the last time we played them and you saw the difference in their play.

    Buford isn't getting it done. You pussies can downvote me for saying it but the numbers are on my side of this argument.

    M Runner

  • We're losing games because every big game we play Buford doesn't show up. We go as Buford goes and the kid has no heart and toughness. The whole team has zero heart, zero toughness, zero fight, and zero brains. This year's team has no shooting. Buford, Smith, Craft, Thompson can't shoot from deep with any consistency. Sully and Thomas are our best 3 pt shooters and that's a problem because we need better shooting to have better spacing and to give Sully more room down low.

    Matta refuses to play Sibert who can actually shoot the ball. Craft needs to be more aggressive and look for his shot more and he needs to score more to take away pressure from Sully, Thomas, and Buford.

    Our team is looking very vulnerable because we are getting exposed on defense too in the high pick and roll action. Let's face it...Sully and Thomas are not good defenders and don't protect our basket and that is a problem when those two are our interior defensive presences. There is no shot blocking on this team besides Amir Williams who Matta also refuses to play and hasn't developed him one bit throughout the season and now it's too late.

    So, best case scenario is a Final Four but that's overly optimistic. We may make an Elite 8 but that is the best this team is showing right now. The sad thing is we have lost our #1 seed and could end up in Kentucky's bracket and get killed by them in the Elite 8.

    TheUtahBuckeye

  • I will also say Gene Smith isn't the Head of the Committee this year so we may get a better draw because we all know Gene is NOT a Buckeye. In fact, he is not a fan of our Bucks and is a Domer. FIRE GENE... biggest traitor to OSU.

    TheUtahBuckeye

  • TheUtahBuckeye said...

    We're losing games because every big game we play Buford doesn't show up. We go as Buford goes and the kid has no heart and toughness. The whole team has zero heart, zero toughness, zero fight, and zero brains. This year's team has no shooting. Buford, Smith, Craft, Thompson can't shoot from deep with any consistency. Sully and Thomas are our best 3 pt shooters and that's a problem because we need better shooting to have better spacing and to give Sully more room down low.

    Matta refuses to play Sibert who can actually shoot the ball. Craft needs to be more aggressive and look for his shot more and he needs to score more to take away pressure from Sully, Thomas, and Buford.

    Our team is looking very vulnerable because we are getting exposed on defense too in the high pick and roll action. Let's face it...Sully and Thomas are not good defenders and don't protect our basket and that is a problem when those two are our interior defensive presences. There is no shot blocking on this team besides Amir Williams who Matta also refuses to play and hasn't developed him one bit throughout the season and now it's too late.

    So, best case scenario is a Final Four but that's overly optimistic. We may make an Elite 8 but that is the best this team is showing right now. The sad thing is we have lost our #1 seed and could end up in Kentucky's bracket and get killed by them in the Elite 8.

    Kentucky's got that kid that's had 10 block games this season. I don't wanna even see Buford's shooting % in that game if it does happen. Just gotta hope we don't get put in that bracket

    Ohioz Finezt

  • M Runner said...

    First of all the op is docked right out of the chute for talking basketball on a football forum.

    Secondly, who in heck do you think you are to give anybody crap for speaking out against Buford?

    I may not know all the nuances and subtleties of the game as you experts supposedly do...but the numbers don't lie. When we need Buford in big games he disappears.

    Our loss at Kansas without Sully...Buford goes 8 for 23 and 1 for 6 from three point land.

    Our loss at Indiana...Buford goes 3 for 7 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss at Illinois...Bufor goes 7 for 18 and 1 for 3 from three point land.

    Our loss against Michigan State...Buford goes 2 for 12 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss against MIchigan...Buford goes 3 for 12 and 0 for 3 from three point land.

    Buford is streaky at best. He either needs to step his game up when the lights are hot in a big game or we need a coach with the balls to sit him to get his attention. What I find interesting is that's exactly what Purdue did with two starters the last time we played them and you saw the difference in their play.

    Buford isn't getting it done. You pussies can downvote me for saying it but the numbers are on my side of this argument.

    What in the hell do you think you're doing? You cant use facts and stats to prove a point.

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    BriGuy

  • M Runner said...

    First of all the op is docked right out of the chute for talking basketball on a football forum.

    Secondly, who in heck do you think you are to give anybody crap for speaking out against Buford?

    I may not know all the nuances and subtleties of the game as you experts supposedly do...but the numbers don't lie. When we need Buford in big games he disappears.

    Our loss at Kansas without Sully...Buford goes 8 for 23 and 1 for 6 from three point land.

    Our loss at Indiana...Buford goes 3 for 7 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss at Illinois...Bufor goes 7 for 18 and 1 for 3 from three point land.

    Our loss against Michigan State...Buford goes 2 for 12 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss against MIchigan...Buford goes 3 for 12 and 0 for 3 from three point land.

    Buford is streaky at best. He either needs to step his game up when the lights are hot in a big game or we need a coach with the balls to sit him to get his attention. What I find interesting is that's exactly what Purdue did with two starters the last time we played them and you saw the difference in their play.

    Buford isn't getting it done. You pussies can downvote me for saying it but the numbers are on my side of this argument.

    If you referring to me about who do I think I am to give someone crap for talking shit about Buford? I'm a grown ass man who has a opinion just like you and I'm arguing FACTS not skewed shit people try and throw up. I don't down vote anyone for having a opinion that differs from mine. You need to check my posts if you think I'm a pussy. It's sort of bitch to me to keep piling on a person when they are obviously not having the success they would want but people keep making threads about him like the rest of the team was balling and he held them back. That's bitch shit in my opinion, also out of all the posts made why get offended because people are saying Buford doesn't completely suck and is still a solid player.

    First of all nobody is arguing about him stinking this season, we are saying that he's not the only person to have stunk when we lose, and you cant say he hasn't shown up in "Big Games" because he has but they've been at home (20 and 21 against Duke and Florida).

    Buford hasn't shot the ball well on the road this season with the exception of @NEB and @Minn. He flat out has sucked on the road all year so why in losses has it been his fault? You are arguing with yourself on this and we discussed all of this on Saturday so what the hell are you talking about?

    If you wanna talk about stats look at the damage he did last year with the exception of the Kentucky game, he was a beast. Buford deserves a lot more than people to dog him when he's not having at great year.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by kelle_m on 2/20/2012 at 10:00 PM

    Let's get it!!!

    kelle_m

  • BriGuy said...

    What in the hell do you think you're doing? You cant use facts and stats to prove a point.

    Those are skewed stats to say he hasn't show up in big games. Duke and Florida were "Big Games" mix in last years "Big Games" and you see someone that has played well in "Big Games". I think he deserves more than for people to dog him when he's a very good career.

    Last year he had 16 at #9 Florida, 19 at Michigan (tournament team), 19 against #12 Purdue, 15 against #18 Minn, 21 at #13 Wisky in a loss, and 18 against #10 Wisky and in the tournament againt GMU he had 18. Let me include the B10 tournament and in the semifinals and finals he averaged 17 pts.

    So do these count?

    Let's get it!!!

    kelle_m

  • We have the team to win it all, we just need to play like it. For some reason this team has tightened up, Sullinger getting double teamed and instead of finding the open man he's shooting, Bufford instead of finding a spot or come off a screen is trying to drive and takes bad shots, Smith jr. is scared to shoot and Craft tries too much to get everyone involved instead of driving to the whole. This team has the players, we just need to play like it and quit being so tight.

    Marty16x1

  • great2belucky said...

    yeah i know nothing about basketball according to jag cause i said buford is a choke and sullinger is a baby and both have regressed. not sure how anything about that is wrong. not sure how stating we have a horrific offense is knowing nothing.

    +1 Here is an article from the Columbus Dispatch by Rob Oller to illustrate points as about William Buford.

    As Buford has struggled to make shots against the better Big Ten teams — against the top four in the conference, he is 22 of 71 (.310) overall and 4 of 21 (.190) from beyond the three-point line, with 13 assists to 20 turnovers — sophomore center Jared Sullinger has found the sledding to be increasingly difficult. Without consistent scoring from mid-range and the perimeter, and Buford is counted on to provide such consistency, Sullinger is more apt to stall in the post, and the offense with him.

    If Buford can’t open the floor with his scoring — he is averaging 8.8 points against the top four Big Ten teams, 18.4 against the bottom seven — there is little reason to believe the Buckeyes will advance beyond the Elite Eight, and probably not past the Sweet 16.

    Yes, Buford’s production is that important. Ohio State cannot expect to compete against Kentucky and Syracuse — or Michigan State and Michigan, for that matter — with Buford leading the team in shots (357) while ranking ninth in field-goal percentage (.426).

    It already had become almost painful to watch Buford sputter offensively before Saturday, when he looked maybe his worst during a 56-51 loss at Michigan. He shot 3 of 12 overall, including 0 for 3 from three-point range. The Buckeyes’ best free-throw shooter (.866), he missed back-to-back foul shots with 6:18 left and the Buckeyes trailing 47-43. It wasn’t just that the 6-foot-6 swingman missed shots, but how he missed him. Far range. Up close. Off the dribble. And almost always in a rush, which also describes an OSU offense that stiffens against the John Wooden teaching of “be quick, but don’t hurry.”

    This team's success is going to be dictated by how well Buford and Deshaun Thomas shoot the basketball. Yes, Craft and Smith need to pick up their offenses as well when these two guys aren't producing on the court.

    This team needs to practice shooting.

    buckibball4ever

  • kelleyredd said...
    I'm a grown ass man who has a opinion just like you and I'm arguing FACTS not skewed shit people try and throw up.

    I've reread your posts...all I read are your opions, very light on facts.

    I've not skewed any facts...box scores are pretty simple to comprehend.

    What Buford did last year has absolutely no bearing on this year.

    And finally... I have never started a thread about Buford, I'm merely responding to the man love you're showing him when somebody calls him out.

    M Runner

  • M Runner said...

    First of all the op is docked right out of the chute for talking basketball on a football forum.

    Secondly, who in heck do you think you are to give anybody crap for speaking out against Buford?

    I may not know all the nuances and subtleties of the game as you experts supposedly do...but the numbers don't lie. When we need Buford in big games he disappears.

    Our loss at Kansas without Sully...Buford goes 8 for 23 and 1 for 6 from three point land.

    Our loss at Indiana...Buford goes 3 for 7 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss at Illinois...Bufor goes 7 for 18 and 1 for 3 from three point land.

    Our loss against Michigan State...Buford goes 2 for 12 and 0 for 2 from three point land.

    Our loss against MIchigan...Buford goes 3 for 12 and 0 for 3 from three point land.

    Buford is streaky at best. He either needs to step his game up when the lights are hot in a big game or we need a coach with the balls to sit him to get his attention. What I find interesting is that's exactly what Purdue did with two starters the last time we played them and you saw the difference in their play.

    Buford isn't getting it done. You pussies can downvote me for saying it but the numbers are on my side of this argument.

    Yes, Buford is a streak shooter who has been off the mark in some big games this season. It should not be a surprise that we lost these games. This is not a coincidence, it is cause and effect. Matta has made him the center piece of our offense and much to my dismay, Matta has not developed any outside shooting as a spark off the bench. So we wll be going the way of Buford in the NCAA tournament, as far as he can carry us. This is the reason Matta was up in the kid's face on Saturday; i.e. he knows he has put all our eggs are in that basket.

    If you all are interested in being fair, you might also recognize that even though Buford has had an off-season, he has still led us to some pretty big victories this year - Florida and Duke earlier, and Purdue and Minnesota more recently. He has put up some impressive stats in these and other games. In other words, the numbers are not on your side.

    Buford will probably finish his career as the second leading scorer in the history of TOSU basketball. And its not all about scoring and shooting percentage, it's also about rebounds, assists, defense, foul shooting, and limiting turnovers - other areas where he has done well over the course of a long career. I wouldn't be surprised if he has logged minutes in as many wins as any player in TOSU history. To say he has accomplished a great deal in his career would be an understatement.

    To come on this site and post juvenile crap like "Buford sucks", say that he is not a big game player who wilts under pressure, and cherry pick statistics from a handful of the 100+ games he has played over the course of his career shows that you just don't understand the game very well. For heaven sake, even guys like Magic, Jordan, and LeBron have had bad games where they shot poorly or pressed too much. I'm not trying to insult you or others posting (with the exception of Lucky), but I don't know what else to tell you. This isn't football, it's a very different game and you have to evaluate players accordingly.

    Buford is obviously "pressing" right now. He's put the pressure of the world on his own shoulders. The Utah idiot poster or whoever it was saying that he doesn't have heart or desire is so full of baloney he should be thrown off the board.

    I think Matta will get Buford in the right frame of mind come tournament time, and as I tried to point out in an earlier post, don't be surprised to see him get a hot hand in the tournament. Make no mistake, he is past due and is absolutely good enough to carry us to New Orleans and the final four. Look at what Kemba Walker did last season for UConn, and Buford is capable of the same. I'm not saying it is going to happen, but I think you all would be making a big mistake by underestimating Buford's abilities and this team's chances. There are no great teams in college basketball and we have as good of a chance as anyone to make a deep run.

    http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/ohio-state/william-buford

    JAG24

  • JAG24 said...

    Yes, Buford is a streak shooter who has been off the mark in some big games this season. It should not be a surprise that we lost these games. This is not a coincidence, it is cause and effect. Matta has made him the center piece of our offense and much to my dismay, Matta has not developed any outside shooting as a spark off the bench. So we wll be going the way of Buford in the NCAA tournament, as far as he can carry us. This is the reason Matta was up in the kid's face on Saturday; i.e. he knows he has put all our eggs are in that basket.

    If you all are interested in being fair, you might also recognize that even though Buford has had an off-season, he has still led us to some pretty big victories this year - Florida and Duke earlier, and Purdue and Minnesota more recently. He has put up some impressive stats in these and other games. In other words, the numbers are not on your side.

    Buford will probably finish his career as the second leading scorer in the history of TOSU basketball. And its not all about scoring and shooting percentage, it's also about rebounds, assists, defense, foul shooting, and limiting turnovers - other areas where he has done well over the course of a long career. I wouldn't be surprised if he has logged minutes in as many wins as any player in TOSU history. To say he has accomplished a great deal in his career would be an understatement.

    To come on this site and post juvenile crap like "Buford sucks", say that he is not a big game player who wilts under pressure, and cherry pick statistics from a handful of the 100+ games he has played over the course of his career shows that you just don't understand the game very well. For heaven sake, even guys like Magic, Jordan, and LeBron have had bad games where they shot poorly or pressed too much. I'm not trying to insult you or others posting (with the exception of Lucky), but I don't know what else to tell you. This isn't football, it's a very different game and you have to evaluate players accordingly.

    Buford is obviously "pressing" right now. He's put the pressure of the world on his own shoulders. The Utah idiot poster or whoever it was saying that he doesn't have heart or desire is so full of baloney he should be thrown off the board.

    I think Matta will get Buford in the right frame of mind come tournament time, and as I tried to point out in an earlier post, don't be surprised to see him get a hot hand in the tournament. Make no mistake, he is past due and is absolutely good enough to carry us to New Orleans and the final four. Look at what Kemba Walker did last season for UConn, and Buford is capable of the same. I'm not saying it is going to happen, but I think you all would be making a big mistake by underestimating Buford's abilities and this team's chances. There are no great teams in college basketball and we have as good of a chance as anyone to make a deep run.

    http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/ohio-state/william-buford

    So where do you place the responibility??

    Is it Buford simply having a sub par year, is it Matta not putting him in a good position, or a combination of both?

    And, do you think it's fair to call Buford out for lack of production?

    M Runner

  • This is pretty simple. Buford is a senior who is expected to shoulder te scoring load with Sullinger and Thomas.

    Sullinger is getting doubled and triple teamed. Buford needs to take advantage of this punish teams for their treatment of Sullinger. He's simply not getting it done, and this team isn't going anywhere if he doesn't.

    Yes Craft and Smith scoring would be helpful, yet these guys aren't scorers. Hence, Buford needs to step up and do it quickly.

    Unfortunately, there's no evidence he can against top competition on a neutral site as a second option.

    chuck0609

  • M Runner said...

    So where do you place the responibility??

    Is it Buford simply having a sub par year, is it Matta not putting him in a good position, or a combination of both?

    And, do you think it's fair to call Buford out for lack of production?

    It is a combination of both. Last year, we had 3 outside shooting options if Diebler (our primary option) went cold. We had Buford, Lighty, and Thomas off the bench. This year, if Buford is cold, all we have is one - Thomas - and nobody off the bench. I've posted 100 times that Matta should have been given LaQuinton Ross a chance after Sibert didn't produce.

    Buford's shot selection hasn't been good and I think that's more than a fair criticism. Believe me, I was screaming at the TV on Saturday every time he took a bad shot. But in my opinion, calling him out beyond that is ridiculous. He's proven what he can do over a long and illustrious career. He's obviously pressing too much right now, and it would probably be best for his mindset for the fans to get behind him and show some support. If he relaxes and loosens up a little, I'm very confident he can turn things around in the tournament. My guess is that this is what Matta is trying to do.

    JAG24

  • http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/William-Buford-1284/

    JAG24

  • chuck0609 said...

    Get off your soapbox. Buford's play going back to the KY game last year is not good enough from a senior with three years under his belt.

    I always enjoy the guy who comes along every year who likes to call people names and tell them how to post while saying they are immature and juvenile.

    Pot, meet kettle.

    Couldn`t have said it better!

    bukweat

  • M Runner said...

    I've reread your posts...all I read are your opions, very light on facts.

    I've not skewed any facts...box scores are pretty simple to comprehend.

    What Buford did last year has absolutely no bearing on this year.

    And finally... I have never started a thread about Buford, I'm merely responding to the man love you're showing him when somebody calls him out.

    I'll address each sentence. I've given a opinion because I'm not arguing with the FACT buford hasn't been clutch this year; the FACT remains that he has performed in big games but they've been at home. (That's a FACT)

    When you only put part of the stats to support your argument then they become skewed.

    I mentioned what he did last year, because others mentioned that he's NEVER been clutch, and he's also had a disappointing career.

    Trust me I have no "man love" for Buford; however, I will argue something that I believe to not be accurate. I prefer to argue with great 2 B lucky but if you wanna argue about this we can go back and forth. It's the same way when people say who's better Kobe, Lebron, or Wade. I'll argue Kobe all day but it's a opinion and it's my opinion.

    I do appreciate your arguments though, this is why you come on here, to discuss and debate. Who the hell would want to come on here to agree.

    Let's get it!!!

    kelle_m

  • chuck0609 said...

    This is pretty simple. Buford is a senior who is expected to shoulder te scoring load with Sullinger and Thomas.

    Sullinger is getting doubled and triple teamed. Buford needs to take advantage of this punish teams for their treatment of Sullinger. He's simply not getting it done, and this team isn't going anywhere if he doesn't.

    Yes Craft and Smith scoring would be helpful, yet these guys aren't scorers. Hence, Buford needs to step up and do it quickly.

    Unfortunately, there's no evidence he can against top competition on a neutral site as a second option.

    I agree Chuck, but I think Thad also needs to put him in better position to score like in the Minnesota game where they ran the first three plays for him to get him going.

    Let's get it!!!

    kelle_m

  • M Runner said...

    So where do you place the responibility??

    Is it Buford simply having a sub par year, is it Matta not putting him in a good position, or a combination of both?

    And, do you think it's fair to call Buford out for lack of production?

    I think it's a combination of both, but yeah you can call him out that's fine in my opinion. My soapbox is this: If you call him out you BETTER call out Sully, Craft, Smith, and/or anyone else that played like shit. People call out Sully but as soon as someone says something about Craft you get people trying to defend his play because he hustles. The fact is Craft hasn't got it done in many losses as well with crucial turnovers in the final minutes. I'm a Craft fan (Sully, Craft, then Buford technically), but I'll call a spade a spade.

    Let's get it!!!

    kelle_m

  • kelleyredd said...

    I agree Chuck, but I think Thad also needs to put him in better position to score like in the Minnesota game where they ran the first three plays for him to get him going.

    I agree that Thad hasnt helped out with his coaching. The offense has been unimaginative and stagnant.

    But, with Sully taking the beating he is, and seeing constant double andf triple teams, Buford needs to step up and shoot better than 3-12.

    chuck0609

  • chuck0609 said...

    I agree that Thad hasnt helped out with his coaching. The offense has been unimaginative and stagnant.

    But, with Sully taking the beating he is, and seeing constant double andf triple teams, Buford needs to step up and shoot better than 3-12.

    I want you to look at the shots he's forced to shoot also. At least twice a game he's forced to take a rushed shot because the clock is running down. Thad has even said that we aren't screen worth a damn, therfore allowing Buford to get better shots. I just know sometimes when you are a primary scoring option on a team that you have to press. When Sully pressed he ended up with 10 turnovers, when Buford presses he shoots 2-12 and 3-12, we just need the offense to play better and that's doing all the small things too. Things like setting screens, Smith crashing the boards, identifying the double team and kicking it out or moving to the opposite side of the double team. Things will be better.

    Let's get it!!!

    kelle_m

  • although this team is talented, I have said all season that they are not a good perimeter shotting team and only an average FT shooting team, I would not be surprised if this team fails to make the Elite 8, however, i will continue to root for them to make it all the way, but honestly, depending on the matchup, this team could lose in the 2nd round easily.

    if they dont right the ship in the next few weeks they may fall out of a top 4 seed. they have lost 3 of their last 7 and the 4 wins have not been "impressive".

    I could see them limping to the end of the year with a another loss or 2 and finish the year as a #4 or 5 seed in the tourney.

    if that is the case then they will likley be playing a #4 or 5 seed in round 2, and a potential loss looms large then.

    I hope I am wrong, but this teams is not a good enough shooting team to overcome a "hot" opponent, or a physical opponent.

    jpfbuck

  • kelleyredd said...

    I want you to look at the shots he's forced to shoot also. At least twice a game he's forced to take a rushed shot because the clock is running down. Thad has even said that we aren't screen worth a damn, therfore allowing Buford to get better shots. I just know sometimes when you are a primary scoring option on a team that you have to press. When Sully pressed he ended up with 10 turnovers, when Buford presses he shoots 2-12 and 3-12, we just need the offense to play better and that's doing all the small things too. Things like setting screens, Smith crashing the boards, identifying the double team and kicking it out or moving to the opposite side of the double team. Things will be better.

    Some of those shots are runners and floaters in the lane that he is expected to make. My problem with Buford is he should want to be more than a guy that stands on the three point line. He needed to become a better finisher around the rim and in the lane.

    I havent seen any development to his game from last year, and thats disappointing. He was abused/exposed by Kentucky last year and there should have been a growth factor present this year.

    chuck0609

  • JAG24 said...

    Yes, Buford is a streak shooter who has been off the mark in some big games this season. It should not be a surprise that we lost these games. This is not a coincidence, it is cause and effect. Matta has made him the center piece of our offense and much to my dismay, Matta has not developed any outside shooting as a spark off the bench. So we wll be going the way of Buford in the NCAA tournament, as far as he can carry us. This is the reason Matta was up in the kid's face on Saturday; i.e. he knows he has put all our eggs are in that basket.

    If you all are interested in being fair, you might also recognize that even though Buford has had an off-season, he has still led us to some pretty big victories this year - Florida and Duke earlier, and Purdue and Minnesota more recently. He has put up some impressive stats in these and other games. In other words, the numbers are not on your side.

    Buford will probably finish his career as the second leading scorer in the history of TOSU basketball. And its not all about scoring and shooting percentage, it's also about rebounds, assists, defense, foul shooting, and limiting turnovers - other areas where he has done well over the course of a long career. I wouldn't be surprised if he has logged minutes in as many wins as any player in TOSU history. To say he has accomplished a great deal in his career would be an understatement.

    To come on this site and post juvenile crap like "Buford sucks", say that he is not a big game player who wilts under pressure, and cherry pick statistics from a handful of the 100+ games he has played over the course of his career shows that you just don't understand the game very well. For heaven sake, even guys like Magic, Jordan, and LeBron have had bad games where they shot poorly or pressed too much. I'm not trying to insult you or others posting (with the exception of Lucky), but I don't know what else to tell you. This isn't football, it's a very different game and you have to evaluate players accordingly.

    Buford is obviously "pressing" right now. He's put the pressure of the world on his own shoulders. The Utah idiot poster or whoever it was saying that he doesn't have heart or desire is so full of baloney he should be thrown off the board.

    I think Matta will get Buford in the right frame of mind come tournament time, and as I tried to point out in an earlier post, don't be surprised to see him get a hot hand in the tournament. Make no mistake, he is past due and is absolutely good enough to carry us to New Orleans and the final four. Look at what Kemba Walker did last season for UConn, and Buford is capable of the same. I'm not saying it is going to happen, but I think you all would be making a big mistake by underestimating Buford's abilities and this team's chances. There are no great teams in college basketball and we have as good of a chance as anyone to make a deep run.

    http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/ohio-state/william-buford

    Let’s make one thing clear, not a single faceless poster has the ability to offend me, and if you do get offended by what people post on internet forums I question you as a human being. Secondly you’re comparing Buford to some of the greatest player to ever play the game. Please stop disrespecting those players by even mentioning Buford in the same sentence as NBA greats. Third, you claim I know nothing about basketball. That’s fine, yet you have given absolutely no reasons as to why I don’t know anything. Every single thing I have said about Buford, sullinger, thad matta and this offense is true.

    Buford- not good in the clutch, doesn’t show up in big games, makes mistakes and boneheaded plays 4 year seniors don’t make. Ever since the Duke game he has been beyond inconsistent and as a poster pointed above, he’s shooting horribly in the games we need him most. Against purdue he played magically, made all the clutch plays you’d expect a 4th year senior to make. Ever since that game he has been BAD.

    Sullinger- overall game has declined since last season. He plays below average defense, has been turning the ball over far too much for a big man, and cries more than any player in college. He has spent more time bitching at officials the last 5 games then actually playing basketball. His focus and mental toughness are beyond soft.

    Thad Matta- amazing recruiter, but overall an extremely average in game coach. Every single team of his aside from the oden/conley team has been upset in march by underdogs. His philosophy of playing 6 guys is terrible, his offenses are bland with no set plays, back door screens and ability to create easy points. I wouldn’t blame a single player on this team for wanting to transfer. You recruit mcdonalds all americans but don’t use them. Why laquinton ross hasn’t been given a shot is beyond my imagination. I’m also willing to bet come march we lose to a team that we are favored over. It’s a trend now and the norm.

    Aaron craft- good defensively, good distributor, good finisher. Horrific shooter and misses way too many open looks. He’s the clear leader on the floor. But, if you expect anything more than 12 point from him then you’re out of your mind.

    Lenzelle- has a good game every now and then. Does all the small things but really isn’t very good at any one thing. He’s best at giving great effort.

    Deshaun- fluid, smooth scorer. Bad on defense. Everyone in America knows this. If I needed one guy to take a shot at the end of the game for this team, I want deshaun. Don’t totally understand why every game thad matta puts him on the other teams top low post man. Draymond green is one of the best players in the country, why was deshaun guarding him?

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