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leolauterbach said...
I love this post, but hate what it means. Our president is completely out of control. Government is too big... they collect way too much of our money, yet have not idea how to spend it properly. Waste, intimidation and social benefit is the name of his game. Don't let this man ruin our country. We need to vote him out.
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DSBUX said...
awww excabuckeye need a juicy juice? What is funny is that you have nothing to stand up to? Republicans? tell me about your great accomplishments. I belong to no party but please tell me how amazing your party has been in the last 70 years?
"You're only young once, but you can always be immature."
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McCague said...
One needs only to look toward the Republican House and Senate to see where the division has come from. You can spin it all you want, but a secret meeting took place on Obama's inauguration day in which all the top Republicans made a pact to do nothing for Obama, and to make sure he does not get re-elected. In my opinion, this Republican congress has completely destroyed any semblance of democracy in this country by defying (in lock-step) everything Obama has even suggested. From 100% participation in the Grover Norquist pledge, to allowing (embracing) unlimited money into politics, to saying NO to everything, to outright lies about almost everything, to taking money from every facet of Big Business, Big Oil, Big Insurance, to not even offering one solution save giving more tax cuts to the wealthy - their masters. We will survive the economic crisis caused by Bush, but if this country goes down we can all point to a Republican Congress abandoning all good, common sense in order to defeat a president who from the start reached out his hand in a gesture of bringing the country together. He was one of the few who believed Republicans have a decent bone in their bodies and would play fair. I hope he comes back in his next term less naive and trusting when it comes to Republicans, and serves up to them what they deserve. I feel he finally gets it and is pissed. This is not Jimmy Carter you're messing with. You should have accepted the old Obama, you could have played him.
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excabuckeye said...
As this writer points out, no President has done more, since Nixon, to intimidate private citizens, and I submit, to any company or group who oppose his views or his socialist agenda. He's discredited the office of the POTUS through his actions, and has proven himself to be nothing more than a pandering, divisive, hypocrite. Is this really the kind of person we want leading this great nation? Seriously? Where is the unification, where is the leadership, and where is the willingness to accept blame for the outcomes of any of his policy actions? 40 months in he'd still rather blame the results of his presidency on others. Oh, and please save your Rupert Murdoch references about the WSJ. We've heard them all before. Can't wait for his memoirs book tour next year.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304723304577368280604524916.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
Strassel: The President Has a List Barack Obama attempts to intimidate contributors to Mitt Romney's campaign. By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL
Try this thought experiment: You decide to donate money to Mitt Romney. You want change in the Oval Office, so you engage in your democratic right to send a check.
Several days later, President Barack Obama, the most powerful man on the planet, singles you out by name. His campaign brands you a Romney donor, shames you for "betting against America," and accuses you of having a "less-than-reputable" record. The message from the man who controls the Justice Department (which can indict you), the SEC (which can fine you), and the IRS (which can audit you), is clear: You made a mistake donating that money.
Are you worried?
Richard Nixon's "enemies list" appalled the country for the simple reason that presidents hold a unique trust. Unlike senators or congressmen, presidents alone represent all Americans. Their powers—to jail, to fine, to bankrupt—are also so vast as to require restraint. Any president who targets a private citizen for his politics is de facto engaged in government intimidation and threats. This is why presidents since Nixon have carefully avoided the practice.
Save Mr. Obama, who acknowledges no rules. This past week, one of his campaign websites posted an item entitled "Behind the curtain: A brief history of Romney's donors." In the post, the Obama campaign named and shamed eight private citizens who had donated to his opponent. Describing the givers as all having "less-than-reputable records," the post went on to make the extraordinary accusations that "quite a few" have also been "on the wrong side of the law" and profiting at "the expense of so many Americans."
These are people like Paul Schorr and Sam and Jeffrey Fox, investors who the site outed for the crime of having "outsourced" jobs. T. Martin Fiorentino is scored for his work for a firm that forecloses on homes. Louis Bacon (a hedge-fund manager), Kent Burton (a "lobbyist") and Thomas O'Malley (an energy CEO) stand accused of profiting from oil. Frank VanderSloot, the CEO of a home-products firm, is slimed as a "bitter foe of the gay rights movement."
These are wealthy individuals, to be sure, but private citizens nonetheless. Not one holds elected office. Not one is a criminal. Not one has the barest fraction of the position or the power of the U.S. leader who is publicly assaulting them.
"We don't tolerate presidents or people of high power to do these things," says Theodore Olson, the former U.S. solicitor general. "When you have the power of the presidency—the power of the IRS, the INS, the Justice Department, the DEA, the SEC—what you have effectively done is put these guys' names up on 'Wanted' posters in government offices." Mr. Olson knows these tactics, having demanded that the 44th president cease publicly targeting Charles and David Koch of Koch Industries, which he represents. He's been ignored.
The real crime of the men, as the website tacitly acknowledges, is that they have given money to Mr. Romney. This fundraiser of a president has shown an acute appreciation for the power of money to win elections, and a cutthroat approach to intimidating those who might give to his opponents.
He's targeted insurers, oil firms and Wall Street—letting it be known that those who oppose his policies might face political or legislative retribution. He lectured the Supreme Court for giving companies more free speech and (falsely) accused the Chamber of Commerce of using foreign money to bankroll U.S. elections. The White House even ginned up an executive order (yet to be released) to require companies to list political donations as a condition of bidding for government contracts. Companies could bid but lose out for donating to Republicans. Or they could quit donating to the GOP—Mr. Obama's real aim.
The White House has couched its attacks in the language of "disclosure" and the argument that corporations should not have the same speech rights as individuals. But now, says Rory Cooper of the Heritage Foundation, "he's doing the same at the individual level, for anyone who opposes his policies." Any giver, at any level, risks reprisal from the president of the United States.
It's getting worse because the money game is not going as Team Obama wants. Super PACs are helping the GOP to level the playing field against Democratic super-spenders. Prominent financial players are backing Mr. Romney. The White House's new strategy is thus to delegitimize Mr. Romney (by attacking his donors) as it seeks to frighten others out of giving.
The Obama campaign has justified any action on the grounds that it has a right to "hold the eventual Republican nominee accountable," but this is a dodge. Politics is rough, but a president has obligations that transcend those of a candidate. He swore an oath to protect and defend a Constitution that gives every American the right to partake in democracy, free of fear of government intimidation or disfavored treatment. If Mr. Obama isn't going to act like a president, he bolsters the argument that he doesn't deserve to be one.
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excabuckeye said...
So this is what he's reduced the office of the President to - appearances on shows like "The View" and "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon?" I respect the office, but not the man, his views or his actions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAFQIciWsF4&feature=related
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McCague said...
So you want Obama to sit in the White House and take the garbage coming his way from Fox News and the Right without doing anything. I didn't think he looked particularly presidential either. If he loses votes because of it you win. Where's the downside? At least he didn't fly in on a helicopter to help bury bin Laden at sea with a banner in the background. You people are now crying that his first campaign stop is at OSU (to get the college vote) when Romney was just at Otterbein doing that very thing. Romney is just as free to campaign at OSU or go on television and make a fool of himself. .........Oh, he has?
Whiny-assed bitches....
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excabuckeye said...
Poor baby! Crying out for attention so much you had to post the same thing twice? Maybe it's you who needs the juicy juice? The entire point of the thread is summed up in the last line of the editorial writer:
"If Mr. Obama isn't going to act like a president, he bolsters the argument that he doesn't deserve to be one."
Hillary would have been a much better choice. At least she acts like an adult most of the time.
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sryan2 said...
"A secret meeting took place on Obama's inauguration day in which all the top Republicans made a pact to do nothing for Obama, and to make sure he does not get re-elected"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nUVrr22uzU . Ladies and gentlemen this is the mind of the left in all its glorious splendor.
"A president who from the start reached out his hand in a gesture of bringing the country together"... Yeah, after using typical Chicago style politics to effectively kneecap Hillary Clinton in your own party, Obama proceeded to appoint who is widely recognized as one of the most divisive and dirty people in all of politics, Rahm Emanuel ("Rhambo"), as his Chief of Staff. He certainly extended the olive branch there and set the tone for exactly what his administration would be all about. You are a spectacular fool even by liberal standards. Obamacare was crafted entirely by one party with no input allowed or requested from the Republicans... The opposition you faced was within your own party. Additionally, this unilateral governance resulted in a historic landslide for Republicans in the mid-term elections (and even the loss the of Ted Kennedy's seat prior to that). Delusion doesn't even begin to cover it with you people.
You are right though that "this is not Jimmy Carter you're messing with"... He is much worse and the damage he is capable and likely to inflict on this country far greater. He is the same person who was THE most liberal Senator and whose associates and affiliations reflect what most would consider to be a radical left vision for our nation (imagine that a politician's rhetoric didn't match his actions). The only true moderate on either ticket based upon his RECORD is Mitt Romney and the people who should be really "pissed" is any non-devout liberal who bought the "hope" and "change" garbage this charlatan was peddling.
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Seattlebuckfan said...
Yep, it's just a WSJ Op Ed.... not a factual news article.... Just like McCague's supposition about the Repubs meeting to strong arm Obama is a supposition... the difference is the Repubs have really gone on to do exactly what his premise pre supposes... no one can prove Obama and company have a "list" and have purposely targeted Repubs who donated to Mitt...
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excabuckeye said...
Yes, it's an editorial and there's a list on Obama's site, but you're right about the targeting point. Nevertheless, it's all right there - don't forget to donate to his campaign while you're there.
http://www.keepinggophonest.com/behind-the-curtain-a-brief-history-of-romneys-donors
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pazbuc said...
This country really became polarized when the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton. The Dems then got even when W became president and now it is even worse under Obama. Both sides are playing to the extremes in their parties. The far left and far right are controlling the agendas of their parties. Romney is the only hope of finding a middle ground if he is elected.
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