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Hilda Solis blaming congress for the horrendous

  • job numbers and bleak jobs outlook.

    Can't this administration ever take responsibility for their failings??? ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!

    This post was edited by bradysmanboobs on 6/1/2012 at 8:47 AM

    bradysmanboobs

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    job numbers and bleak jobs outlook.

    Can't this administration ever take responsibility for their failings??? ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!

    When Bush left office we were bleeding 600,000 jobs a month. As soon as Obama took office the trend reversed itself. Ever since job creation went to the positive it has not fallen into the negative category. Jobs are being created. Bush policies had them in the red (no pun intended) for years, and zero jobs were being created. If the republican congress would stop impeding jobs bills we could get out of this. But that won't happen in an election year if it didn't happen in preceding years.

    McCague

  • He reminds me of a little kid who never does anything wrong . Blame anything or anyone . Sick .

    NUTTYBAR

  • McCague said...

    Ever since job creation went to the positive it has not fallen into the negative category. Jobs are being created.

    Unless of course you take into account the reality of the number of new workers entering the workforce, the underemployed and those who have entirely dropped out of the job market and therefore don't count. That inconvenient truth says we're still going backwards.

    But I'm sure you can explain that away by claiming it's W's fault and the fault of the 1%, right?

    "You're only young once, but you can always be immature."

    excabuckeye

  • McCague said...

    When Bush left office we were bleeding 600,000 jobs a month. As soon as Obama took office the trend reversed itself. Ever since job creation went to the positive it has not fallen into the negative category. Jobs are being created. Bush policies had them in the red (no pun intended) for years, and zero jobs were being created. If the republican congress would stop impeding jobs bills we could get out of this. But that won't happen in an election year if it didn't happen in preceding years.

    Not to correct you, 750,000 jobs a month. Don't even bother with that dope. They could care less about this country. They only want power and the wealth that comes with it.

    dave1954

  • dave1954 said...

    Not to correct you, 750,000 jobs a month. Don't even bother with that dope. They could care less about this country. They only want power and the wealth that comes with it.

    I stand corrected, sir. +1

    McCague

  • excabuckeye said...

    But I'm sure you can explain that away by claiming it's W's fault and the fault of the 1%, right?

    No escaping reality. The fact remains the same as it was 4 years ago. Expecting, lying, and wishing for it to change won't make it so.

    Oh, not the 1% part. They didn't cause the problem. We have no problem with them making money and with them accepting tax cuts. Stop lumping them in. I doubt seriously if they would complain if their taxes went up anyway. It's not about the 1%, it's about the right trying to hang this around the neck of Obama when he is trying to fix the Republican's mess - without their help I might add.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by McCague on 6/1/2012 at 5:37 PM

    McCague

  • excabuckeye said...

    Unless of course you take into account the reality of the number of new workers entering the workforce, the underemployed and those who have entirely dropped out of the job market and therefore don't count. That inconvenient truth says we're still going backwards.

    But I'm sure you can explain that away by claiming it's W's fault and the fault of the 1%, right?

    What exactly has any republican done to try and stimulate job growth except for swearing that they will never raise taxes??

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    What exactly has any republican done to try and stimulate job growth except for swearing that they will never raise taxes??

    Until anyone can prove that higher taxes create jobs what's your point? Why don't you explain how raising taxes, whether on individuals or corporations, will create jobs? And what about all those jobs Obama created in the green energy industry by playing venture capitalist with money we borrowed from China?

    "You're only young once, but you can always be immature."

    excabuckeye

  • excabuckeye said...

    Until anyone can prove that higher taxes create jobs what's your point? Why don't you explain how raising taxes, whether on individuals or corporations, will create jobs? And what about all those jobs Obama created in the green energy industry by playing venture capitalist with money we borrowed from China?

    No one said that higher taxes contribute to job growth, but it has been claimed that lowering taxes will help the "job creators" create jobs (we now know that is just a plain lie). Higher taxes on a few would help subsidize education, medicaid, and SS. Areas that are severely lacking funding. To your point about President Obama playing venture capitalist, that could have happened to anyone, he invested in something that was within his vision of what will help the USA get back into the global energy market. You have a very narrow scope of success and how it benefits people. There have been infrastructure bills that have been rejected by the right along with Obamacare which would have been a boon for private for-profit insurance companies. Come up with solutions instead of bitching about the problems everyone knows we have.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    No one said that higher taxes contribute to job growth, but it has been claimed that lowering taxes will help the "job creators" create jobs (we now know that is just a plain lie). Higher taxes on a few would help subsidize education, medicaid, and SS. Areas that are severely lacking funding. To your point about President Obama playing venture capitalist, that could have happened to anyone, he invested in something that was within his vision of what will help the USA get back into the global energy market. You have a very narrow scope of success and how it benefits people. There have been infrastructure bills that have been rejected by the right along with Obamacare which would have been a boon for private for-profit insurance companies. Come up with solutions instead of bitching about the problems everyone knows we have.

    That could have happened to anyone? Seriously? What qualifications does Obama, or anyone in the Federal government who never spent a day in private industry, have in determining how or where to "invest" in companies or industries? Their experience is limited to where they can best buy votes. And how do you know lower taxes don't create jobs? Liberals have no problem with crediting Obama for all the jobs he's saved or created with government "stimulus" but how does anyone really know what the situation would have been without the stimulus? At the same time what if the lower tax rates we've had in place prevented the job market from being much worse than it's actually been? No one really knows, do they - you can't argue it both ways, and nothing happens in a vacuum - everything has consequences. Here's a few solutions for you:

    Don't allow the President to play venture capitalist with borrowed money.
    Fund only basic R&D from the federal government.
    Don't direcly fund politically connected companies.
    Don't appease the green movement by funding companies and industries with no workable business plan.
    Let the free market determine what companies and industries succeed or fail.
    Let venture capital professionals, who have just a little more experience in this area, fund startups.

    "You're only young once, but you can always be immature."

    excabuckeye

  • excabuckeye said...

    That could have happened to anyone? Seriously? What qualifications does Obama, or anyone in the Federal government who never spent a day in private industry, have in determining how or where to "invest" in companies or industries? Their experience is limited to where they can best buy votes. And how do you know lower taxes don't create jobs? Liberals have no problem with crediting Obama for all the jobs he's saved or created with government "stimulus" but how does anyone really know what the situation would have been without the stimulus? At the same time what if the lower tax rates we've had in place prevented the job market from being much worse than it's actually been? No one really knows, do they - you can't argue it both ways, and nothing happens in a vacuum - everything has consequences. Here's a few solutions for you:

    Don't allow the President to play venture capitalist with borrowed money. Fund only basic R&D from the federal government. Don't direcly fund politically connected companies. Don't appease the green movement by funding companies and industries with no workable business plan. Let the free market determine what companies and industries succeed or fail. Let venture capital professionals, who have just a little more experience in this area, fund startups.

    Obama and LOTS AND LOTS of people underneath him have NEVER created a JOB in the PRIVATE sector in their LIVES....... THATS a FACT JACK............

    minsterbuckeye

  • excabuckeye said...

    And how do you know lower taxes don't create jobs?

    I believe he was alive and has been a witness during the past 11 years. As were we all.

    Only a fool would say tax cuts during that time created jobs. It was quite the opposite - and continues today.....

    Oh, I forgot, military jobs were created - through attrition.......

    This post was edited by McCague on 6/2/2012 at 1:54 PM

    McCague

  • McCague said...

    I believe he was alive and has been a witness during the past 11 years. As were we all.

    Only a fool would say tax cuts during that time created jobs. It was quite the opposite - and continues today.....

    Oh, I forgot, military jobs were created - through attrition.......

    How do you, or anyone, know what jobs were created for what reasons? Liberals all believe that stimulus is good and lower taxes are bad, yet Economic theory, logic and principle dictates that higher taxes never create more jobs. Well, maybe if you're a tax attorney and have greater job security to interpret the cluster-fuck that is our tax policy.

    This post was edited by excabuckeye on 6/2/2012 at 4:26 PM

    "You're only young once, but you can always be immature."

    excabuckeye

  • excabuckeye said...

    That could have happened to anyone? Seriously? What qualifications does Obama, or anyone in the Federal government who never spent a day in private industry, have in determining how or where to "invest" in companies or industries? Their experience is limited to where they can best buy votes. And how do you know lower taxes don't create jobs? Liberals have no problem with crediting Obama for all the jobs he's saved or created with government "stimulus" but how does anyone really know what the situation would have been without the stimulus? At the same time what if the lower tax rates we've had in place prevented the job market from being much worse than it's actually been? No one really knows, do they - you can't argue it both ways, and nothing happens in a vacuum - everything has consequences. Here's a few solutions for you:

    Don't allow the President to play venture capitalist with borrowed money. Fund only basic R&D from the federal government. Don't direcly fund politically connected companies. Don't appease the green movement by funding companies and industries with no workable business plan. Let the free market determine what companies and industries succeed or fail. Let venture capital professionals, who have just a little more experience in this area, fund startups.

    You know that the Federal Government is not a private company, don't you?? They are not in the business of making money, they are in the business of making sure that everyone has an opportunity to do well and for the country to strive as a whole.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    You know that the Federal Government is not a private company, don't you?? They are not in the business of making money, they are in the business of making sure that everyone has an opportunity to do well and for the country to strive as a whole.

    Are you kidding me? You really think that's what our elected officials are concerned with? Take off your blinders and reassess the situation.

    codexp2

  • minsterbuckeye said...

    Obama and LOTS AND LOTS of people underneath him have NEVER created a JOB in the PRIVATE sector in their LIVES....... THATS a FACT JACK............

    Agreed. I'd bet my last dollar he'd fail in the private sector.

    codexp2

  • shalvoy said...

    You know that the Federal Government is not a private company, don't you?? They are not in the business of making money, they are in the business of making sure that everyone has an opportunity to do well and for the country to strive as a whole.

    Wrong. That is not what the Federal Governments job is. It is YOUR responsibility to do well and make a living. You alone create your own opportunity.

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  • Hilda Solis is like another Obama appointee Eric Holder.......totally incompetent for the position she/he holds.

    pazbuc

  • pazbuc said...

    Hilda Solis is like another Obama appointee Eric Holder.......totally incompetent for the position she/he holds.

    eric holder is either lying or doesn't have a clue.........should be fired......

    minsterbuckeye

  • McCague---You seem to forget that the congress (both houses) was controled by the Democrats for the first two years of OBama's administration.

    This post was edited by Buckeyewest on 6/5/2012 at 10:40 AM

    Buckeyewest

  • Buckeyewest said...

    McCague---You seem to forget that the congress (both houses) was controled by the Democrats for the first two year of OBama's administration.

    You've really asked for it now...drumroll please while our liberal friends wind up their same old tired excuses about fillibusters.

    "You're only young once, but you can always be immature."

    excabuckeye

  • excabuckeye said...

    You've really asked for it now...drumroll please while our liberal friends wind up their same old tired excuses about fillibusters.

    It never gets old to them. It's almost like they're scripted by the media...oh, wait...

    codexp2

  • excabuckeye said...

    You've really asked for it now...drumroll please while our liberal friends wind up their same old tired excuses about fillibusters.

    Calling the truth "same old tired excuses" is below your usual quality of posts. The problem is that there is plenty of blame to go around and no one on either side will admit to their own culpability. Which is not new news with its political beginnings going back to the Washington administration.

    The Great Depression took 10 years and WWII to pull out of and people are complaining that Obama after three years still hasn't fixed the problem on the arguably second worse economy in our nation's history. Get real. He has actually done a pretty good job given all of the circumstances.

    Though often asked, God does not take sides in politics or college football.

    TimMcM

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    job numbers and bleak jobs outlook.

    Can't this administration ever take responsibility for their failings??? ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!

    They will probably take responsibility when the Right stops the Birther, Marxist, America Hater, Muslim BS and admit that half of the figures they use should really be counted against Bush rather than Obama.

    Just one example: The Romney campaign claims that Obama has presided over a net loss in jobs. They reach that figure by counting job losses that were a result of the economic crisis and happened before Obama’s policies were enacted or even took effect, including jobs lost in January 2009 before Obama’s inauguration. They count the over 800,000 jobs lost in January 09 - Obama in office 10 days. The 750,000 jobs lost in Feb. - Obama in office 39 days. The 700,000 loss in March - Obama in office 69 days and none of his policies having yet had a chance to be put into practice. So Romney wants Obama to take the blame for 2.25 million jobs lost in his first 69 days in office. That is a joke. No objective, rational person would see Obama as having anything to do with those losses, but if those actual facts are brought up the GOP/Right start screaming STOP BLAMING BUSH.

    So even with Friday's horrible job report of only 69,000 private sector jobs being created May, that is still a lot better than losing 800,000 jobs. There have been over 4 million private sector jobs added since Obama's stimulus and other programs acted as a tourniquet to the Bush's massive hemorrhaging of jobs.

    This post was edited by TimMcM on 6/4/2012 at 1:36 AM

    Though often asked, God does not take sides in politics or college football.

    TimMcM