The Bucknuts Hot Spot

As a conservative I would like to see the Republicans stop the talk of repealing Obamacare. It's now the law of the land and repeal can only be done by owning the presidency, the House and 60 votes in the Senate. Ain't gonna happen. Let's move on and fix the economy.

Wouldn't know, ask Buckeye Warrior! And what does the GA stand for, Garbage?

You may be correct about this. It will all depend on who's argument is better between now and November. Interesting political theatre, to say the least.

Obama is a MOTHERFUCKING LIAR. He claimed up and down for 3 years now that the Individual Mandate was not a tax. The Supreme Court agreed with the Obama lawyers that it is in fact a tax.

Second, yes I am upset like crazy over this ruling. I truly believe that you Liberals mean well. I do. However, I really don't think you guy's really know what it is you are cheering for. The Government literally just took all of our Rights' away today. Yes, I know that you guy's may laugh about that and say that is not true. However, according to what the Supreme Court just said, the government can now compel us to buy whatever they say and if we don't they are allowed to tax us. What is next? Cars? Obama is very bullish on green cars. The government can now compel us to buy Chevy Volts and if we don't, they can tax us even more.

Third, we literally just ushered in Socialism. When the government is controlling an entire industry, like they are now with the Healthcare Industry, that is Socialism.

This is true. As a middle class, employed person who pays health insurance, this is GREAT for me! This will make those uninsured people pay for their own health care, which is fantastic.

The skyrocketing costs of health care is directly correlated with people not paying their bills, so this should help with that too!

I honestly think this is great for every American. And please don't mistake me for a partisan hack when I say that.

Interesting point, BW. Correct me if I am wrong, but this would only be a "tax" on people who don't have health insurance, correct?

So how does everyone feel about the other provisions? Specifically, insurance companies not being able to discriminate against pre-existing conditions, young adults being able to stay on parents insurance until 26, etc.

Would it be safe to say that if these were the only provisions in the health care law that everyone would be ok with it?

Yes.

No. The tax on business is automatic. Plus, everyone now has to get coverage through an approved insurer and also carry a certain amount of coverage (think Cadillac insurance policies).

My question on the whole thing is.......weren't we already paying for it? Just because they didn't have insurance didn't mean they were not treated. It just increased premiums, deductibles and hospital costs that they passed on to insurance companies and us. If everyone had the right for treatment then where were the dollars coming from that - assuming everyone had the right for treatment, if that isn't the case let me know?

I agreed with your interpretation until you started whining like a little girl. Con is short for conservative and is used all over the internet including on conservative blogs. Also it is no different than using lib for liberal which many of us do. The SC found the individual mandate Constitutional under the power to tax. It is not a tax, at least in the sense of the payroll and income tax. The reason it isn't is because you do not have to pay this one. Don't buy insurance and you will be fined (taxed), DON'T PAY THE FINE/TAX AND NOTHING HAPPENS - THERE IS NO PENALTY ALLOWED AS PER THE ACT ITSELF.

So besides your histrionics, you may very well be right about energizing the base for the GOP as in 2010. If the President were as far left as you are claiming, the SC would have been ruling on a single payer/MediCare for all act, not this let's make insurance companies rich program that they actually upheld.

So does Romney run on the economy or on repealing this? Past presidential candidates have found it difficult to attack on multiple major fronts because it just becomes negatives squared.

Another issue that I would like to see the conservatives (happy) discuss is exactly what the GOP will replace the AHA with. In 2010 they ran on repeal, replace but of course they never, ever said what they would replace it with. I am not sure that Americans will allow Romney to get away with "I'll repeal it my first day in office and then I will replace it with something better."

What does the 1954 mean? You are going senile in your old age?

The government has always had the right to tax. This didn't just happen today. I have to pay into social security and medicare. I just don't understand what changed today.