The Bucknuts Hot Spot

And why would he change the rules to benefit a very small part of the Navy thereby dissing all the rest of the people that obey the rules? I would be ashamed and so would most military people if he showed favoritism like this... I'm certain he would let the military follow the rules as they are written and have been for a very long time.... but that's not going to happen because the Seals that currently serve would not say anything that's in that so called article.... they wouldn't waste their time on something so petty and silly... and I'm pretty sure that you have no idea who the men are that formed the unit that killed Bin Laden... nor do I think you have ever had the class of security clearance that my son has.... so if I had to choose who knows the rules and the men I'll go with my son....

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you come to grips about what you posted? Are you ready to apologize to all people of color for your racist remarks and assumptions?

You are correct it is most certainly a rule. However, I stand by my previous post in saying I think in a lot of cases seals are above the law. I'm not saying they are outside the realm of punishment but seals follow other seals like a cult. If they discharged a group of them it would set the rest of them into a spiral of pissed off that I don't believe our government wants to publicly face. I could be wrong it's just an opinion.

I respect your opinion and have enjoyed our discussion... thanks...

Your source cites one of the main criticizers as "former US Navy Commander Ryan Zinke." He retired in 2008 and is a real American hero. He has every right to give his opinion on the matter - but maybe full disclosure is also in order. Funny that your article fails to tell us what he is doing today. Could it be that some might see a conflict for this hero? He is a very conservative, Republican State Senator in the state of Montana. Still has a right to his opinion, but it certainly is not objective.

And exactly what is his criticism?
"The decision was a no brainer. I applaud him for making it but I would not over pat myself on the back for making the right call. I think every president would have done the same. He is justified in saying it was his decision, but the preparation, the sacrifice – it was a broader team effort,” said former US Navy Commander Ryan Zinke. He added that he thought the Obama campaign was “positioning him as a war president using the SEALs as ammunition,” calling the move “predictable.”

Every President would have done this? Really? I do not believe that - because when Carter tried to free the hostages and it was a horrible failure, it was a big contributor to him not winning a second term. Since that time no American President has tried such a daring act for fear of the political repercussions. Plus under these standards, Reagan and all the Reaganites should be chastised for him taking credit and them giving him credit to ending the Soviet Union. What did he personally do to "end the cold war?" Nothing because any decision he made would have been made by any President and there were hundreds of thousands who gave their lives fighting communism - where is their credit? No double standard here.
When he said it was predictable, he was showing his partisanship. So he is an American hero but he is not an objective viewer of events - he is a partisan conservative who is a repub elected official.

He says Obama is taking the credit but he is wrong. Obama has repeatedly given credit to the Seals, the Intel, etc. Here is his first announcement about bin Laden being dead, the quote is the tagline:
"President Obama praises those Americans who carried out the operation to kill Osama bin Laden, tells the families of the victims of September 11, 2001 that they have never been forgotten, and calls on Americans to remember the unity of that tragic day."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNYmK19-d0U

Furthermore:
"President Obama thanks Navy SEALs team that killed Osama Bin Laden
BY RICHARD SISK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Friday, May 06, 2011
WASHINGTON -- A beaming President Obama had a rousing message Friday for the Navy SEALs who wiped out Osama Bin Laden: "Job well done."

Obama thanked the commandos and the chopper pilots who ferried them into Pakistan for the Sunday raid during a private powwow at Fort Campbell, Ky.

He awarded the unnamed heroes a Presidential Unit Citation - the highest honor for a military unit - for their "extraordinary service and achievement."
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-06/news/29534139_1_release-osama-death-photos-president-obama-highest-honor

Highest honor for a military unit is not giving them their just dues? Give me a break.

Furthermore I have heard Obama talk about this victory numerous times and every time he thanks and credits the Seals and others involved in the operation.

As usual, much ado about nothing.

You are not wrong bro. I also think you are doing a good job of being nice to seattlebuck. I tried that once. It get's old after a while. She likes to hear things that fit her narrative. She also doesn't want to admit that discharging a whole Navy Seals Team would fall directly on Obama since he is the CIC. She also doesn't seem to understand that all Military regulations and rules are approved by the President and can easily be changed by the President at any time he wants.

YUP....

If I posted as many ignorant comments as you have I wouldn't be talking about someone else.

Seals as citizens can deface their uniforms and burn the flag and do whatever... this speaking out to the press in public is considered to be the same sort of action and one for which they would face expulsion w/o a trial... so if a Seal feels so inclined then they have disgraced their uniform and their team... and no, I nor my son don't know if these men did that, but given the fact that the men who were on the raid must remain unseen and unidentified for their safety, it's a fairly good guess that they would not put their unit at risk by coming out of the shadows.... ask your relative all about this unit ... ask him if they exist... ask him about the coins, too.

I need to address the issue that I would not know what my son knows... you are absolutely correct... I don't know what he really does entirely( only his declassified title and rank), what name is on his name tag, where the building he works in is currently located... all of that is classified ( if he dies in the line of duty I will not know how or where and may not have his body depending on the circumstances)... the things that are not classified I shared with you... When you are in intel your phones are bugged and so is your office for your safety... and my son is an honorable person which is why he was appointed to his current position... none of my sons would ever reveal anything that was classified... that's why I know the seals feel exactly the same way... they live the same type of lives for the same reasons... to protect and serve...

You can't ever argue with seattlebuck. At one time or another, when it is convient, she has claimed to have sons in the Military, CIA, White House, Pentagon, and overseas Embassies. She has also claimed that everyone in the Intelligence community and Military vote Democrat and that they actually hate the GOP.

You will discover, as most of us have, that seattlebuck will always have a "well placed son", who will always claim that the people they work with are Liberal voters, and that they know about the inner workings of our Military and Intelligence communityand on occasion, the White House.

Funny how no one but you says this... It's also funny that you have no clue about the coins... which is why the people who really served know that my sons are for real... and I have never claimed anything but that they are in the Navy and work in intel consistently and yes that Chris works/ is stationed in DC...PROVE THAT THEY DON"T... YOU are making a fool out of yourself by this post...I'm still waiting for you to prove that people in the military can give interviews to the public media when several on here in the military that were in said they can't... you talk nonsense and it's come right back in your face....Please show everyone the posts where I said any of the above that you claim ..

PS It's you who dishonored the active military and spit on the Seals... not me... none of these seal posts are partisan... everyone on here knows how I feel about No Bama... I may be a liberal but not about the military.... and certainly not about giving Obama misplaced credit...

No what's funny is all the lies that you spread about my family and me and can't back them up...in fact you can't back up anything you claim including that any seal except for one that's retired participated in this so called interview... plus you can't make it seem like I care if Obama get's credit because I don't.... so really you have proved ZERO... and you don't have a friggin' clue about the coins which makes me wonder how good a job you did and who you crossed paths with when you served in the army.... and you certainly don't know much about the seals ... you did prove that by spitting on their honor and courage... so all you proved is that you don't know what you're yammering about and you spout nonsense.... What I like best about you is how you never answer questions ( and have been accused of this by both cons and libs) and always try to shift stuff off onto someone else when you make wild crazy unsupported claims and how dumb and illogical that makes you look.... You need to take a look in the mirror... I pity you....