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Now, Obama is trying to buy the college vote

  • by subsidizing lower student loan interest rates. Our country is broke and we can no longer afford this and never really could. It's long overdue for the democrats (the party of special interests) to stop buying votes with other peoples money. Let the rates rise!

    I must admit though, as a conservative, I am disgusted that Bush signed these lower rates into law. It's good to see current republicans have a sense of fiscal responsibility and don't want to extend the lower rates.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-calls-for-action-on-student-loan-rates-2012-04-21

    By Sam Mamudi, MarketWatch
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — President Barack Obama has called on Congress to prevent a doubling in federal student loan interest rates.

    In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday, Obama linked student loan rates and college affordability to economic prosperity.

    The address was part of what the New York Times said on Friday would be a sustained effort through the spring to prevent student loan rates from doubling to 6.8%. The Times noted that critics point to a Congressional Budget Office estimate which showed that keeping rates low would cost $6 billion in the coming year.

    Click to Play Does tea party have a second act?Tough challenges to Republican Sens. Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar will signal whether tea-party activists and their allies still have the power they wielded in 2010. Photo: Reuters
    In his address, Obama was clear about his view of the importance of extending the reduced rate, which has been in place for four years, and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

    “We should be doing everything we can to put higher education within reach for every American,” said Obama. “It’s never been more important ... it’s also never been more expensive ... for the first time, Americans owe more on their student debt than on their credit cards.”

    Arguing that higher education is “an economic imperative” Obama said that without congressional action, on July 1 interest rates on student loans will double for nearly 7.5 million people.

    “It would be a tremendous blow, and it’s completely avoidable,” he added.

    Obama said Republicans haven’t cooperated with his efforts to make college more affordable, preferring instead to focus on tax cuts for the wealthy.

    “We cannot build an America where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of people struggle to get by,” he said.

    bradysmanboobs

  • Again, tell me a Republican leader or President who is or was "fiscally responsible" in the last 70 years?! It's a myth and quite funny

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    DSBUX

  • Letting those rates double would be catastrophic. That would mean there would be a huge amount of people who could no longer afford to go to college. $6 billion a year to make college more affordable is a great investment. Yes, we need to cut spending but making college unaffordable is a horrible way to achieve it.

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    ng164300

  • Buying votes? Is that possible? If so I don't know why Obama doesn't just tell everyone they will get $600 in the mail if they vote for him. What? You say that's been done? When? Surely not..

    McCague

  • McCague said...

    Buying votes? Is that possible? If so I don't know why Obama doesn't just tell everyone they will get $600 in the mail if they vote for him. What? You say that's been done? When? Surely not..

    That has never been done. That was a refund on the taxes that we already paid. Nice try.

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    www.miamiproject.miami.edu/

    Buckeye Warrior

  • Does anybody really think that ANY vote is free these days? Politicians, PACs, Super PACs, and their donors sure don't. Why else would billions of dollars be funneled to politicians and into political campaigns? Why else would the left fund MSNBC to push its agenda. Why else right fund Fox News? Seriously, forget about who's trying to buy who's votes and just focus on the how and why of using your OWN flucking votes!!!!!

    All this political crap is straight-up depressing.

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    @542BlueBuck

    zeke_tolliver

  • DSBUX said...

    Again, tell me a Republican leader or President who is or was "fiscally responsible" in the last 70 years?! It's a myth and quite funny

    I don't know that I'd go as far as saying it was his fiscal responsibility that did the job, but the only President to balance the budget in the last few decades was Clinton.

    BucksinWA

  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    That has never been done. That was a refund on the taxes that we already paid. Nice try.

    It was buying votes, plain and simple. That surplus must have looked like the pot at the end of the rainbow for Carl Rove.

    I didn't look at it as a refund. Look where it got us. Even my apolitical wife could see it coming. Look what that surplus could have done for us. It would have at least paid for two unfunded wars. And never mind roads, bridges, schools, Social Security, Medicare, etc., etc.
    I present the national debt we are now experiencing as exhibit one. It's easy for conservatives to cry about the "Obama debt" now, but they have selective memory concerning its roots.

    McCague

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    by subsidizing lower student loan interest rates. Our country is broke and we can no longer afford this and never really could. It's long overdue for the democrats (the party of special interests) to stop buying votes with other peoples money. Let the rates rise!

    I must admit though, as a conservative, I am disgusted that Bush signed these lower rates into law. It's good to see current republicans have a sense of fiscal responsibility and don't want to extend the lower rates.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-calls-for-action-on-student-loan-rates-2012-04-21

    By Sam Mamudi, MarketWatch NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — President Barack Obama has called on Congress to prevent a doubling in federal student loan interest rates.

    In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday, Obama linked student loan rates and college affordability to economic prosperity.

    The address was part of what the New York Times said on Friday would be a sustained effort through the spring to prevent student loan rates from doubling to 6.8%. The Times noted that critics point to a Congressional Budget Office estimate which showed that keeping rates low would cost $6 billion in the coming year.

    Click to Play Does tea party have a second act?Tough challenges to Republican Sens. Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar will signal whether tea-party activists and their allies still have the power they wielded in 2010. Photo: Reuters In his address, Obama was clear about his view of the importance of extending the reduced rate, which has been in place for four years, and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

    “We should be doing everything we can to put higher education within reach for every American,” said Obama. “It’s never been more important ... it’s also never been more expensive ... for the first time, Americans owe more on their student debt than on their credit cards.”

    Arguing that higher education is “an economic imperative” Obama said that without congressional action, on July 1 interest rates on student loans will double for nearly 7.5 million people.

    “It would be a tremendous blow, and it’s completely avoidable,” he added.

    Obama said Republicans haven’t cooperated with his efforts to make college more affordable, preferring instead to focus on tax cuts for the wealthy.

    “We cannot build an America where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of people struggle to get by,” he said.

    tell OBAMA to do something about the COST of a college education....a baby born today might be paying around $250,000 for the the experience of going to a public university.....and sorry it's just not Obama, IT"S ALL POLITICIANS....just like healthcare---the POLITICIANS need to do something about the COST OF HEALTHCARE......

    minsterbuckeye

  • ng164300 said...

    Letting those rates double would be catastrophic. That would mean there would be a huge amount of people who could no longer afford to go to college. $6 billion a year to make college more affordable is a great investment. Yes, we need to cut spending but making college unaffordable is a horrible way to achieve it.

    forget the loans----it is dam near unaffordable now......would love to have a little talk with E GORDON GEE on the subject!!!!

    minsterbuckeye

  • minsterbuckeye said...

    tell OBAMA to do something about the COST of a college education....a baby born today might be paying around $250,000 for the the experience of going to a public university.....and sorry it's just not Obama, IT"S ALL POLITICIANS....just like healthcare---the POLITICIANS need to do something about the COST OF HEALTHCARE......

    I know Ohio used to have a cap on how much college tuition could rise in one year. Who got rid of that? Hmmm

    95buckeye ●

  • Yeah well, I'm a freshman in college and there is no way that I am voting for that piece of scum.

    RecruitingFreak

  • McCague said...

    It was buying votes, plain and simple. That surplus must have looked like the pot at the end of the rainbow for Carl Rove.

    I didn't look at it as a refund. Look where it got us. Even my apolitical wife could see it coming. Look what that surplus could have done for us. It would have at least paid for two unfunded wars. And never mind roads, bridges, schools, Social Security, Medicare, etc., etc. I present the national debt we are now experiencing as exhibit one. It's easy for conservatives to cry about the "Obama debt" now, but they have selective memory concerning its roots.

    It doesn't matter how you looked at it, a tax refund is still a tax refund.

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    Buckeye Warrior

  • Education and healthcare are the two best things a government can offer - why the animosity?? Everyone benefits from a healthy, well-educated society. If we are to remain the world's elite, these things must change. Invest in tomorrow. Greed is not a virtue

    Obama is not the answer and neither is Romney - We The People are.

    This post was edited by shalvoy on 4/22/2012 at 8:40 PM

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy ●

  • You, Minsterbuck, Buckeyewarrior and all the rest of you absolute idiots should have your head examined. EDUCATION is societies great equalizer! You are basically saying we are so broke that we cannot afford an investment in our future??? This is why conservatives are just dumb people. You buy into this whole deficit thing to the point that you want to eliminate our future. We dont need a planet in the future, we dont need an intelligent workforce so that we have people we can, we dont need bridges, roads or rails so that businesses can get their goods and products where they need to go. We need to stop abortion, but we need to end all the programs that help babies grow up healthy and educated. You say you are pro business, but you dont want to pay for any of the things that businesses need to prosper.

    You are just a bunch of freakin morons. You have let Fox news and Rush and anybody else convince you that literally there is not future for this country because we cant spend A DIME. You have to invest to GROW!!!!

    goby

  • Serve your country by serving in the military and the "problem solved".

    Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.

    AtlantaBuck

  • ng164300 said...

    Letting those rates double would be catastrophic. That would mean there would be a huge amount of people who could no longer afford to go to college. $6 billion a year to make college more affordable is a great investment. Yes, we need to cut spending but making college unaffordable is a horrible way to achieve it.

    But how is this making college affordable? I dont get that argument?

    this does nothing to get to the root cause of a affordable education, it really reads to me as another bailout without fixing the root cause.

    Much like the school funding issue in Ohio, how many years has it been and how many different leaders from both sides have we had that have done absolutely nothing to fix school funding?

    Once again, it is more important to our supposed leaders to get re elected than it is to actually fix something

    gpracer73

  • gpracer73 said...

    But how is this making college affordable? I dont get that argument?

    this does nothing to get to the root cause of a affordable education, it really reads to me as another bailout without fixing the root cause.

    Much like the school funding issue in Ohio, how many years has it been and how many different leaders from both sides have we had that have done absolutely nothing to fix school funding?

    Once again, it is more important to our supposed leaders to get re elected than it is to actually fix something

    Doubling the interest you pay on your loans will make a lot of people decide they can't afford to go to college. It doesn't change the cost of tuition but people will realize that trying to pay off a school loan at 7% is nearly impossible.

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    ng164300

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    Now, Obama is trying to buy the college vote by subsidizing lower student loan interest rates.

    Even if this was true (and it's obviously not), it'd be a thousand times better than buying the vote of the 1%, who simply want to pluck clean America like a pack of buzzards.

    Sad to say, but the Tea Party is simply a bunch of pawns who have been conned by the 1%. In 20 years, when you're trying to retire, you will realize the Republican scam as you stand there as a Wal-Mart greeter trying to pay your health bills, etc. Bill Maher said it best: (paraphrasing) If you are still Republican and not a millionaire, you are a moron.

    A lot of the debt came from Republican wars (helping out their military supplier 1%) and a Republican tax cut for the rich. So right now Republicans are basically saying to America to wipe out your life and forget the American Dream because our 1% want to keep things nice and cushy for themselves. Because, hey, it's really hard to live on a million dollars or a billion dollars. We need to get Sally Struthers to start a non-profit campaign to help the needy 1%.

    pro nonexpert47380

  • Some good links to put things in perspective:

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=105189922834577&ref=mf

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/like-hell-im-going-to-let-some-black-president-hel,11509/

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-haunted-by-past-of-trying-to-help-unin,20097/

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/obamas-declaration-of-swine-flu-emergency-prompts,6952/

    http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html?_r=2&hp

    pro nonexpert47380

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    by subsidizing lower student loan interest rates. Our country is broke and we can no longer afford this and never really could. It's long overdue for the democrats (the party of special interests) to stop buying votes with other peoples money. Let the rates rise!

    I must admit though, as a conservative, I am disgusted that Bush signed these lower rates into law. It's good to see current republicans have a sense of fiscal responsibility and don't want to extend the lower rates.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-calls-for-action-on-student-loan-rates-2012-04-21

    By Sam Mamudi, MarketWatch
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — President Barack Obama has called on Congress to prevent a doubling in federal student loan interest rates.

    In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday, Obama linked student loan rates and college affordability to economic prosperity.

    The address was part of what the New York Times said on Friday would be a sustained effort through the spring to prevent student loan rates from doubling to 6.8%. The Times noted that critics point to a Congressional Budget Office estimate which showed that keeping rates low would cost $6 billion in the coming year.

    Click to Play Does tea party have a second act?Tough challenges to Republican Sens. Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar will signal whether tea-party activists and their allies still have the power they wielded in 2010. Photo: Reuters
    In his address, Obama was clear about his view of the importance of extending the reduced rate, which has been in place for four years, and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

    “We should be doing everything we can to put higher education within reach for every American,” said Obama. “It’s never been more important ... it’s also never been more expensive ... for the first time, Americans owe more on their student debt than on their credit cards.”

    Arguing that higher education is “an economic imperative” Obama said that without congressional action, on July 1 interest rates on student loans will double for nearly 7.5 million people.

    “It would be a tremendous blow, and it’s completely avoidable,” he added.

    Obama said Republicans haven’t cooperated with his efforts to make college more affordable, preferring instead to focus on tax cuts for the wealthy.

    “We cannot build an America where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of people struggle to get by,” he said.

    It seems ur man Romney agrees with our president!

    Buck Snort

  • goby said...

    You, Minsterbuck, Buckeyewarrior and all the rest of you absolute idiots should have your head examined. EDUCATION is societies great equalizer! You are basically saying we are so broke that we cannot afford an investment in our future??? This is why conservatives are just dumb people. You buy into this whole deficit thing to the point that you want to eliminate our future. We dont need a planet in the future, we dont need an intelligent workforce so that we have people we can, we dont need bridges, roads or rails so that businesses can get their goods and products where they need to go. We need to stop abortion, but we need to end all the programs that help babies grow up healthy and educated. You say you are pro business, but you dont want to pay for any of the things that businesses need to prosper.

    You are just a bunch of freakin morons. You have let Fox news and Rush and anybody else convince you that literally there is not future for this country because we cant spend A DIME. You have to invest to GROW!!!!

    because i think COSTS are out of hand.........

    minsterbuckeye

  • pro non-expert said...

    Some good links to put things in perspective:

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=105189922834577&ref=mf

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/like-hell-im-going-to-let-some-black-president-hel,11509/

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-haunted-by-past-of-trying-to-help-unin,20097/

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/obamas-declaration-of-swine-flu-emergency-prompts,6952/

    http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html?_r=2&hp

    Perhaps you missed my response to this partisan garbage you posted on another thread...

    Reading your leftwing propaganda is 7 minutes of my life I truly wish I could have back, but ultimately ignorance such as yours is the best publicity for the side you oppose. I would counter with some factually relevant information but I'm confident you wouldn't read it anyways (not "union approved" literature). Mr. B gets the left in a frenzy because he has a superb and witty writing style supported by facts which cannot be refuted by his antagonists. You're playing checkers while he is playing chess in his arguments.

    sryan2

  • Mitt Romney flipped today and supported Pres Obama's approach. Good job Mitt "Jimmy Carter" Romney! Keep flipping.

    Buckrock

  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    It doesn't matter how you looked at it, a tax refund is still a tax refund.

    "A rose by any other name...." Buying votes with someone else's money... I didn't want the refund, and neither did my wife. Multiply our "refund" by the number of taxpayers and you learn to realize that that money would have kept our economy from spiraling out of control.
    Conservatives like to talk about being accountable and frugal, but look what happened when Bush promised them $600 back. What's wrong, couldn't stand having something in reserve like the good little conservatives you claim to be? That $600 was a drop in the bucket for an average family, but collectively it could have kept the Clinton economy booming. Therein lies the problem - the surplus wasn't created by Republicans. In a nutshell.......

    Paying for votes. That's all it was.

    McCague

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