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  • Conviently it comes after the election.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=new%20york%20times%20obamacare&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CE4QqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fblogs%2Fwonkblog%2Fwp%2F2013%2F01%2F06%2Ffive-facts-about-obamacare-and-health-premiums%2F&ei=PHPsUPCHEvLU0gHBTw&usg=AFQjCNGQt6Y-fHenPY__pD1oQfjtodQwyQ

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/business/despite-new-health-law-some-see-sharp-rise-in-premiums.html?hp

    Somehow, the words "I told you so" don't seem to be enough. Those of you who voted for Obama and think Obamacare is great, congrats, you got duped.

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  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    Conviently it comes after the election.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=new%20york%20times%20obamacare&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CE4QqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fblogs%2Fwonkblog%2Fwp%2F2013%2F01%2F06%2Ffive-facts-about-obamacare-and-health-premiums%2F&ei=PHPsUPCHEvLU0gHBTw&usg=AFQjCNGQt6Y-fHenPY__pD1oQfjtodQwyQ

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/business/despite-new-health-law-some-see-sharp-rise-in-premiums.html?hp

    Somehow, the words "I told you so" don't seem to be enough. Those of you who voted for Obama and think Obamacare is great, congrats, you got duped.

    I posted the NYT article previously. The general liberal thought is just a blip because people are nervous. Give it time and costs will be 10% of today. 1954 just stated we are "f'ing idiots, morons, losers, 52-47, all of dies 'tards and racists" Hmm, wait, that could of have been for any post :)

    dumbname

  • dumbname said...

    I posted the NYT article previously. The general liberal thought is just a blip because people are nervous. Give it time and costs will be 10% of today. 1954 just stated we are "f'ing idiots, morons, losers, 52-47, all of dies 'tards and racists" Hmm, wait, that could of have been for any post :)

    That was why I used the New York Times and Washington Post. Those are the main propaganda wings of the Democratic Party.

    This post was edited by Buckeye Warrior on 1/8/2013 at 3:37 PM

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  • Liberals will blame it on the "greedy" insurance companies and not Obamacare.

    pazbuc

  • Man, these liberals sound awful!!!

    How do we get rid of them?

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    devidee

  • devidee said...

    Man, these liberals sound awful!!!

    How do we get rid of them?

    Put out a "Help Wanted" sign.

    dumbname

  • dumbname said...

    Put out a "Help Wanted" sign.

    Oh, the liberals are lazy and don't want to work.

    How did they get so rich?

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    devidee

  • devidee said...

    Oh, the liberals are lazy and don't want to work.

    How did they get so rich?

    By avoiding taxes and laws that they championed. For example, just look at Al Gore and Warren Buffett.

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  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    By avoiding taxes and laws that they championed. For example, just look at Al Gore and Warren Buffett.

    That's it?

    Why don't we all do that?

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    devidee

  • devidee said...

    Oh, the liberals are lazy and don't want to work.

    How did they get so rich?

    The liberal rich are congregated in DC and Hollywood. Not all Dems are liberal, but the liberal wing drives the party at the moment.

    This post was edited by dumbname on 1/8/2013 at 4:29 PM

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  • devidee said...

    That's it?

    Why don't we all do that?

    Oh, I agree. I am all for it. However, the Democratic Party loves to tout laws and taxes as being great and then do all they can to avoid them.

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  • dumbname said...

    The liberal rich are congregated in DC and Hollywood. Not all Dems are liberal, but the liberal wing drives the party at the moment.

    Wow.

    If we just elect the other white meat all our problems would be solved.

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  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    Conviently it comes after the election.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=new%20york%20times%20obamacare&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CE4QqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fblogs%2Fwonkblog%2Fwp%2F2013%2F01%2F06%2Ffive-facts-about-obamacare-and-health-premiums%2F&ei=PHPsUPCHEvLU0gHBTw&usg=AFQjCNGQt6Y-fHenPY__pD1oQfjtodQwyQ

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/business/despite-new-health-law-some-see-sharp-rise-in-premiums.html?hp

    Somehow, the words "I told you so" don't seem to be enough. Those of you who voted for Obama and think Obamacare is great, congrats, you got duped.

    Premiums on the average have gone up on a slower basis but you have the wrong culprit. Do you really think these premiums would not be this high without Obamacare? What is it with people that take the side of insurance companies over the public. It's just like taking the Banks side. Cons hate Obama so much that they will do and say the opposite of Obama every time.

    dave1954

  • dumbname said...

    I posted the NYT article previously. The general liberal thought is just a blip because people are nervous. Give it time and costs will be 10% of today. 1954 just stated we are "f'ing idiots, morons, losers, 52-47, all of dies 'tards and racists" Hmm, wait, that could of have been for any post :)

    No, I didn't post that. You, like a good Con, choose words and take them out of context. In fact, I never use the word "tard" or retard. But I have seen some of the Cons use those words on this Board. If you are gonna rip me at least get the fact straight.

    dave1954

  • dave1954 said...

    Premiums on the average have gone up on a slower basis but you have the wrong culprit. Do you really think these premiums would not be this high without Obamacare? What is it with people that take the side of insurance companies over the public. It's just like taking the Banks side. Cons hate Obama so much that they will do and say the opposite of Obama every time.

    Well, when Obama sold Obamacare as LOWERING the cost of health care, he either lied or was so wrong that he should scrap the program. Second, you are saying that prices would have gone up anyway so what's the big deal. Again, I point you back to what Obama promised. Why do we have Obamacare if the prices are still going up much more than if nothing was put into place?

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  • pazbuc said...

    Liberals will blame it on the "greedy" insurance companies and not Obamacare.

    You are one of the reasons premiums rise. You back insurance companies and what they do versus the public. Same as gas prices, you bitch about Obama , blaming high prices on him instead of the oil companies. Same as when the spill in the Gulf. Some how it was Obama's fault and not the sloppiness of the oil company.

    dave1954

  • devidee said...

    Man, these liberals sound awful!!!

    How do we get rid of them?

    I have an idea for you. How about voting, that could work because the country hates Liberals. Wait a minute, hold on there, we just had an election.
    52-47. Geez, only 47% voted for the Con and 52% for the stinkin Lib.
    BWHAHAHhahhhHhHhHahHhha!!!!!!!!

    dave1954

  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    Well, when Obama sold Obamacare as LOWERING the cost of health care, he either lied or was so wrong that he should scrap the program. Second, you are saying that prices would have gone up anyway so what's the big deal. Again, I point you back to what Obama promised. Why do we have Obamacare if the prices are still going up much more than if nothing was put into place?

    Until a mechanism is put in to stop companies from arbitrarily raising prices the cost will continue to grow. Some states such as NY have laws against this.

    dave1954

  • dave1954 said...

    Until a mechanism is put in to stop companies from arbitrarily raising prices the cost will continue to grow. Some states such as NY have laws against this.

    Your a Moron. I don't post much, but my god, every post its like your a damn know it all. Do you work for insurance companies? Do you work for oil companies and actually understand how pricing is set. Do you work for big banks to know how they operate. Or do you watch the news and that's how you get your answers?? Before you come here and blame Corporate America, maybe go work for them and see how businesses operate. Setting laws against raising pricing will not work, it will just drive business out of state or out of business. The marketplace will set its own pricing, those who are out of the "market" will not be successful.

    bradly2osu

  • devidee said...

    Wow.

    If we just elect the other white meat all our problems would be solved.

    Find somewhere on this board I stated a love for Republicans? Now go to sleep underneath your painting of OBama hanging over your bed.

    dumbname

  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    Well, when Obama sold Obamacare as LOWERING the cost of health care, he either lied or was so wrong that he should scrap the program. Second, you are saying that prices would have gone up anyway so what's the big deal. Again, I point you back to what Obama promised. Why do we have Obamacare if the prices are still going up much more than if nothing was put into place?

    We have Obamacare because 40 million Americans had no health insurance. There was a time that America was known for helping one another, then the Republicans and Reagan won the WH.

    dave1954

  • bradly2osu said...

    Your a Moron. I don't post much, but my god, every post its like your a damn know it all. Do you work for insurance companies? Do you work for oil companies and actually understand how pricing is set. Do you work for big banks to know how they operate. Or do you watch the news and that's how you get your answers?? Before you come here and blame Corporate America, maybe go work for them and see how businesses operate. Setting laws against raising pricing will not work, it will just drive business out of state or out of business. The marketplace will set its own pricing, those who are out of the "market" will not be successful.

    Are you an English teacher? Your first sentence should have been you're or you are! Good to know who you support, big business and the CEO's making millions while their company is laying people off.

    dave1954

  • bradly2osu said...

    Your a Moron. I don't post much, but my god, every post its like your a damn know it all. Do you work for insurance companies? Do you work for oil companies and actually understand how pricing is set. Do you work for big banks to know how they operate. Or do you watch the news and that's how you get your answers?? Before you come here and blame Corporate America, maybe go work for them and see how businesses operate. Setting laws against raising pricing will not work, it will just drive business out of state or out of business. The marketplace will set its own pricing, those who are out of the "market" will not be successful.

    Dave isn't a capitalist. He is a socialist. He will gladly tell you that he wants the government to dictate prices.

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  • dave1954 said...

    Are you an English teacher? Your first sentence should have been you're or you are! Good to know who you support, big business and the CEO's making millions while their company is laying people off.

    Let me guess, are you a teacher. Sorry my typing and English skills are not good enough for you! First off, why do people take risks to start a business?? To make more money, so yes I am for CEO's making millions. Hell, I hope to be in that place as well. If you take big risks to start a business or you work your ass off to become a CEO of a company then you should make what you can. If you are not doing your job as a CEO or Business owner then you will be out of a job sooner than later. On the part of laying people off, my only answer is, if I start a business and can make it more efficient and higher profits with less people why wouldn't I?? Now, If i didn't think I could do that, then I wouldn't lay people off. If I thought I could make more profits with more employees then I would hire more. Again, the market place will dictate what businesses do with their employees. I am not going to pay all the taxes, workers comp, and health care for workers if I can streamline and have my business run smoother with less employees and higher profits. I guess that's why you are not a business owner. If you think you just need employees to give them jobs and not worry about the bottom line that that's why you are in the job you are and that's why you bitch about the top dogs making the big decisions. If you like socialist views that's your opinion but I was brought up in a capitalist country (probably you as well) and this is the way my parents and grandparents raised me. I guess it helps they all are successful business owners and business teachers who teach without an agenda!!

    bradly2osu

  • devidee said...

    Man, these liberals sound awful!!!

    How do we get rid of them?

    hollow points.

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