The Bucknuts Hot Spot

today, anybody that cant afford health insurance can get it through the govt, it is called Medicare. The majority of people that do not have insurance can afford it but they choose not to pay for it. that was a big myth put out by varying sources in the media and politics during the health care debates. Even Obama has stated as such. most of the uninsured were young people that gamble on not getting sick, most are correct since the highest cost of health care is end of life care.

But than again, they do not get it for free, you and I pay for Medicare through taxes, nothing is free in this country, it is paid for by someone somewhere,

People dont purchase low cost insurance with universal health care, it is Govt subsidized, you can purchase catastrophic or supplemental insurance through private comapnies but the main care is provided through the govt at a cost of taxes to cover it, it it isnt free either. People still are expected to pay out of pocket for routine visits, percentages of procedures or any elective procedure the govt doesnt deem as neccesary ( one of those things people wont like in universal health care) the govt cant force people to pay out of pocket either, the same people that refuse to pay for it in the US system refuse to pay for it in a universal system.

Once again, you are the king of thinking that the Republicans are the only folks in office with there hand in the kitty. Let me ask you this, who is the biggest benificiary of the Health care reform law passed by the Democrats? who worte a majority of that bill? could it be the insurance companies?

I agree insurance companies are part of the problem, but the folks in washington gave them a gift by forcing 30 some odd million people to pay for there service, pretty nice perk for the insurance companies huh? but your right it is just the Republicans fault isnt it?

didnt call it Obama care, I called it the health care reform law, can you point out where I made the statement you claimed?

If I remember correctly the Dems in the house and Senate were not in favor of going further either, you had a few that wanted to, but there were quite a few that were against it, it wasnt just one side.

Considering what the dolts in Washington came up with on this bill, I am kinda glad they didnt go further, I dont think there is anyone in Washington smart enough to not screw it up royally.

You would have to ask the candidate what they would put in it's place, as far as I know none of them with the exception of Huntsman who no longer is in the race, has proposed anything to replace it with.

You pay into the medicare system, but your policy is subsidized by all taxpayers that pay into medicare via payroll taxes. You do not have a special stand alone account just because you pay premiums.

Not confusing either program, you mentioned you were retired so you pay into medicare currently to get your health care covered. You are not solely funding your own healthcare, it is subsidized by all that pay into the program via medicare payroll taxes at the Federal level.

Medicare is mainly funded by State taxes with help from the Feds, the Feds get the money through taxes so everyone is paying for folks on medicare. Medicare is for the most part how the poor in this country are covered, of course there are other federal and state programs that can cover partial bits of healthcare as well for the working poor.

It is no different than someone on private insurance, your premiums do not cover your medical care, everyone else in that same group subsidize your medical care. that enables the person with the 80,000 knee replacement to get it done even though they only pay 100 bucks a month for coverage.

I have no real issue with Universal health care and beleive we need to go in that direction as a country, but there are ways to do it through the existing private insurance system and not just govt funded, but I really, honestly dont think we have the leaders in washington from either party that will do something to fix it. just a caveat, Universal health care has some very big drawbacks that people dont take into consideration when they are begging for universal health care, it truly will piss people off that are asking for it now.

Medicare does not pay for poor people. It is insurance that taxpayers have paid into their entire lives so that it will be there when they reach retirement.

Medicaid is for poor people.

I get nothing free from taxpayers. I pay two expensive premiums and a thousand dollars a month for my wife, who has not reached retirement age. I have paid into medicare as well through my private jobs and just do not have enough quarters built up for Social Security. My wife has paid into Social Security and Medicare her entire life, and I'm sure she will not expect that she will be getting Medicare free when the time comes. Someone besides me needs to suggest that to her. LOL

You can swallow that hook if you so choose, but the facts simply do not support your conclusions... Obamacare will increase costs, decrease quality of care, limit choice, and significantly add to our already out-of-control deficit.

Anyone interested in evaluating the merits of these arguments should click on the following article (and embedded links within) and contrast it with yours and others who agree with your unsubstantiated claims... http://www.heritage.org/research/projects/impact-of-obamacare

exactly what Minster said!

Dear sweet lord. Do not use the Heritage foundation for information if you have any desire to read things that are useful or accurate. I find your intentionally subversive tactics to be funny yet quite sad. Also, you really are wrong.