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Simple ?, who gave go ahead for fast and furious......

  • it's been OVER 1 and half years....still no names, nobody suspended, NOBODY FIRED......why hasn't OBAMA asked for information?????

    minsterbuckeye

  • Because it was Holder, but we all knew that, didn't we?

    "You're only young once, but you can always be immature."

    excabuckeye

  • Simple answer. Holder is still working on it. He will have an answer after November......maybe. Just call him Mr Incompetent.

    pazbuc

  • pazbuc said...

    Simple answer. Holder is still working on it. He will have an answer after November......maybe. Just call him Mr Incompetent.

    Who gave go ahead, simple:

    AP Sources: Bush-Era Probe Also Involved Guns 'Walking'
    Tuesday, 04 Oct 2011 04:28 PM

    The federal government under the Bush administration ran an operation that allowed hundreds of guns to be transferred to suspected arms traffickers — the same tactic that congressional Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama's administration for using, two federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and other Republicans have been hammering the Obama Justice Department over the practice known as "letting guns walk," or leave law enforcement custody to trace their sales. Their target has been Operation Fast and Furious, which was designed to track small-time gun buyers at several Phoenix-area gun shops up the chain to make cases against major weapons traffickers.

    When Bush, a Republican, was president, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in Tucson, Ariz., used a similar enforcement tactic in a program it called Operation Wide Receiver. The fact that there were two such ATF investigations years apart in separate administrations raises the possibility that agents in still other cases may have allowed guns to "walk" rather than seizing them.

    Federal law enforcement officials familiar with the matter say Operation Wide Receiver began in 2006 after the agency received information about a suspicious purchase of firearms. The investigation concluded in 2007 without any charges being filed.

    After Obama took office, the Justice Department reviewed Wide Receiver and discovered that ATF had permitted guns to be transferred to suspected gun traffickers, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Congress and the Justice Department Inspector General's Office are investigating the practice.

    In a statement, Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that, "whether it's Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Wide Receiver, or both, it's clear that guns were walked, and people high in the Justice Department knew about it. There's no excuse for walking guns, and if there are more operations like this, Congress and the American people need to know."
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ATF-BushEraProbe/2011/10/04/id/413270

    Can't wait for Paul Clement to be questioned as Holder has been.

    This post was edited by TimMcM on 6/12/2012 at 10:36 PM

    Though often asked, God does not take sides in politics or college football.

    TimMcM

  • TimMcM said...

    Who gave go ahead, simple:

    AP Sources: Bush-Era Probe Also Involved Guns 'Walking' Tuesday, 04 Oct 2011 04:28 PM

    The federal government under the Bush administration ran an operation that allowed hundreds of guns to be transferred to suspected arms traffickers — the same tactic that congressional Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama's administration for using, two federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and other Republicans have been hammering the Obama Justice Department over the practice known as "letting guns walk," or leave law enforcement custody to trace their sales. Their target has been Operation Fast and Furious, which was designed to track small-time gun buyers at several Phoenix-area gun shops up the chain to make cases against major weapons traffickers.

    When Bush, a Republican, was president, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in Tucson, Ariz., used a similar enforcement tactic in a program it called Operation Wide Receiver. The fact that there were two such ATF investigations years apart in separate administrations raises the possibility that agents in still other cases may have allowed guns to "walk" rather than seizing them.

    Federal law enforcement officials familiar with the matter say Operation Wide Receiver began in 2006 after the agency received information about a suspicious purchase of firearms. The investigation concluded in 2007 without any charges being filed.

    After Obama took office, the Justice Department reviewed Wide Receiver and discovered that ATF had permitted guns to be transferred to suspected gun traffickers, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Congress and the Justice Department Inspector General's Office are investigating the practice.

    In a statement, Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that, "whether it's Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Wide Receiver, or both, it's clear that guns were walked, and people high in the Justice Department knew about it. There's no excuse for walking guns, and if there are more operations like this, Congress and the American people need to know." http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ATF-BushEraProbe/2011/10/04/id/413270

    Can't wait for Paul Clement to be questioned as Holder has been.

    I could have swore that Fast and Furious ended up with a American being killed. I don't recall Wide Reciever getting any Americans killed. But, like all things with Liberals, everything ends up back to Bush.

    This post was edited by Buckeye Warrior on 6/13/2012 at 10:29 AM

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  • TimMcM said...

    Who gave go ahead, simple:

    AP Sources: Bush-Era Probe Also Involved Guns 'Walking' Tuesday, 04 Oct 2011 04:28 PM

    The federal government under the Bush administration ran an operation that allowed hundreds of guns to be transferred to suspected arms traffickers — the same tactic that congressional Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama's administration for using, two federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and other Republicans have been hammering the Obama Justice Department over the practice known as "letting guns walk," or leave law enforcement custody to trace their sales. Their target has been Operation Fast and Furious, which was designed to track small-time gun buyers at several Phoenix-area gun shops up the chain to make cases against major weapons traffickers.

    When Bush, a Republican, was president, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in Tucson, Ariz., used a similar enforcement tactic in a program it called Operation Wide Receiver. The fact that there were two such ATF investigations years apart in separate administrations raises the possibility that agents in still other cases may have allowed guns to "walk" rather than seizing them.

    Federal law enforcement officials familiar with the matter say Operation Wide Receiver began in 2006 after the agency received information about a suspicious purchase of firearms. The investigation concluded in 2007 without any charges being filed.

    After Obama took office, the Justice Department reviewed Wide Receiver and discovered that ATF had permitted guns to be transferred to suspected gun traffickers, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Congress and the Justice Department Inspector General's Office are investigating the practice.

    In a statement, Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that, "whether it's Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Wide Receiver, or both, it's clear that guns were walked, and people high in the Justice Department knew about it. There's no excuse for walking guns, and if there are more operations like this, Congress and the American people need to know." http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ATF-BushEraProbe/2011/10/04/id/413270

    Can't wait for Paul Clement to be questioned as Holder has been.

    spin it any way u want.....the leaks and fast and furious, time is coming to answer the bell.......

    minsterbuckeye

  • Holders nothing but bad PR right now for the Prez
    We all know Holder knew about this, Hell he approved it , not long now till he's on his way out ...
    They should lock his ass up for being so incompetent.

    NUTTYBAR

  • TimMcM said...

    Who gave go ahead, simple:

    AP Sources: Bush-Era Probe Also Involved Guns 'Walking' Tuesday, 04 Oct 2011 04:28 PM

    The federal government under the Bush administration ran an operation that allowed hundreds of guns to be transferred to suspected arms traffickers — the same tactic that congressional Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama's administration for using, two federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and other Republicans have been hammering the Obama Justice Department over the practice known as "letting guns walk," or leave law enforcement custody to trace their sales. Their target has been Operation Fast and Furious, which was designed to track small-time gun buyers at several Phoenix-area gun shops up the chain to make cases against major weapons traffickers.

    When Bush, a Republican, was president, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in Tucson, Ariz., used a similar enforcement tactic in a program it called Operation Wide Receiver. The fact that there were two such ATF investigations years apart in separate administrations raises the possibility that agents in still other cases may have allowed guns to "walk" rather than seizing them.

    Federal law enforcement officials familiar with the matter say Operation Wide Receiver began in 2006 after the agency received information about a suspicious purchase of firearms. The investigation concluded in 2007 without any charges being filed.

    After Obama took office, the Justice Department reviewed Wide Receiver and discovered that ATF had permitted guns to be transferred to suspected gun traffickers, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Congress and the Justice Department Inspector General's Office are investigating the practice.

    In a statement, Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that, "whether it's Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Wide Receiver, or both, it's clear that guns were walked, and people high in the Justice Department knew about it. There's no excuse for walking guns, and if there are more operations like this, Congress and the American people need to know." http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ATF-BushEraProbe/2011/10/04/id/413270

    Can't wait for Paul Clement to be questioned as Holder has been.

    This is comical. Instead of talking about Holder, you throw something else out there against the other side. Typical.

    Go ahead, investigate it. That's fine. If they did something illegal, prosecute them. But that has nothing to do with Holder and Fast and the Furious. If the Obama Administration thought this was such a horrible thing, they obviously wouldn't have DONE IT AGAIN.

    whvball

  • TIM ! The difference is under Bush they were arrested ........... Not the free pass to Mexico and we'll find em at a crime scene BS ... These ATF agents were told to let them walk . Crazy !

    NUTTYBAR

  • When Dave doesn't have an answer he will post:
    It's Bush's fault or
    Change the subject.

    pazbuc

  • pazbuc said...

    When Dave doesn't have an answer he will post: It's Bush's fault or Change the subject.

    Right from the DNC playbook. Pages 1-1008.
    Pages 1009 raise taxes.

    hammerhead

  • whvball said...

    This is comical. Instead of talking about Holder, you throw something else out there against the other side. Typical.

    Go ahead, investigate it. That's fine. If they did something illegal, prosecute them. But that has nothing to do with Holder and Fast and the Furious. If the Obama Administration thought this was such a horrible thing, they obviously wouldn't have DONE IT AGAIN.

    thats what TIMMY the double dipper does......

    minsterbuckeye

  • minsterbuckeye said...

    it's been OVER 1 and half years....still no names, nobody suspended, NOBODY FIRED......why hasn't OBAMA asked for information?????

    Are you in the Obama Admin because if you aren't how would you know if Obama hasn't asked?

    dave1954

  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    I could have swore that Fast and Furious ended up with a American being killed. I don't recall Wide Reciever getting any Americans killed. But, like all things with Liberals, everything ends up back to Bush.

    The way the Bush Admin. hid facts how do you know someone wasn't killed? Remember the lies they told about the female soldier and how she was rescued, that was a lie. And lets not forget the NFL player that was shot by one of our guys yet the Bushies tried to make him a hero.

    dave1954

  • NUTTYBAR said...

    Holders nothing but bad PR right now for the Prez We all know Holder knew about this, Hell he approved it , not long now till he's on his way out ... They should lock his ass up for being so incompetent.

    OK, he can share a cell with Cheney and Bush

    dave1954

  • hammerhead said...

    Right from the DNC playbook. Pages 1-1008. Pages 1009 raise taxes.

    Bwahahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats a good one Shecky!

    dave1954

  • pazbuc said...

    When Dave doesn't have an answer he will post: It's Bush's fault or Change the subject.

    You are an oracle. Dave didn't let you down.

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  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    I could have swore that Fast and Furious ended up with a American being killed. I don't recall Wide Reciever getting any Americans killed. But, like all things with Liberals, everything ends up back to Bush.

    Yes it seems so. Unfortunately for you when facts are facts only partisan losers claim otherwise. Given that under W they were doing the same thing how do we know that no got killed? Oh, I know Dick, weapons of mass destruction, Cheney said so.

    As usual you care nothing about facts - you are wrong on here much more often then you are right. Like some of your cohorts, you think your partisanopinions are facts.

    The other thing is you just don't appear to think as a mature adult.

    I am/was against F&F. The thread starter asked "who gave the go ahead?" I just answered that question.

    Though often asked, God does not take sides in politics or college football.

    TimMcM

  • minsterbuckeye said...

    spin it any way u want.....the leaks and fast and furious, time is coming to answer the bell.......

    no spin, just the facts

    As I have said numerous times, I have believed for quite sometime that Obama will lose in November. I still believe that but if his handlers don't find a way to muzzle Romney soon we might all be surprised. A flip-flop is one thing but when you contradict yourself at the same speaking engagement or say one thing one day and change it the next it starts to look like you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Though often asked, God does not take sides in politics or college football.

    TimMcM

  • TimMcM said...

    Yes it seems so. Unfortunately for you when facts are facts only partisan losers claim otherwise. Given that under W they were doing the same thing how do we know that no got killed? Oh, I know Dick, weapons of mass destruction, Cheney said so.

    As usual you care nothing about facts - you are wrong on here much more often then you are right. Like some of your cohorts, you think your partisanopinions are facts.

    The other thing is you just don't appear to think as a mature adult.

    I am/was against F&F. The thread starter asked "who gave the go ahead?" I just answered that question.

    Working with facts? You and Dave are claiming Bush and company have covered up people getting killed from their 'wide receiver'. Come on Man.

    This post was edited by whvball on 6/14/2012 at 7:16 AM

    whvball

  • Fast and furious is about to get real ugly.

    Contempt charges coming.

    NUTTYBAR

  • dave1954 said...

    OK, he can share a cell with Cheney and Bush

    and Obama

    1buckfaninmich

  • 1buckfaninmich said...

    and Obama

    Obama, for what? War crimes, nope, that's Bush. Outing our spy, nope, that's Libby. Lying to Congress about WMD, nope, that's Cheney.

    dave1954

  • dave1954 said...

    Obama, for what? War crimes, nope, that's Bush. Outing our spy, nope, that's Libby. Lying to Congress about WMD, nope, that's Cheney.

    Actually, the President coming out and trying to hold documents for 'Executive Privilage' means he knows something or is involved some how. But hey, let's talk about President Bush.

    whvball

  • Executive Privilage is transparency you can count on. If F&F didn't involve the WH how can the king claim Executive Priviledge? When the country elected Obama they bought the pig in a poke. He had no record of accomplishment anywhere.

    pazbuc