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Trayvon Martin:A Fake Tragedy

  • CO Dank said...

    I hate how people think its a racist thing. I don't feel its Zimmerman fault he was honing in on a black guy. I'm not racist and have quite a few black friends so don't take this the wrong way. Black males are improsoned more than any other race. A community which is mostly of black males has an extremely high crime rate.Not many people can argue with that. Black males are most likely to be gang involved. Not saying all black males are bad but statistics tell all. So I don't think it's his fault he felt threatened by a black males. I hate to put that out there but for anyone that thinks I'm racist or biased i'm letting you know i'm stating complete facts. If you think i'm racist do some research on what i've said. I hate to post this but he felt threatened, was attacked first I don't care if he was following him, and acted on it. He will go down though because the police asked him to stop following the kid and he did'nt. It could have been avoided and yes I feel he should go down. I think he could have got ahold of the kid and held him down before he shot him.

    MY HEART AND PRAYERS GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO OFFEND ANYONE. IT IS A TOUCHY SITUATION TO GET INVOLVED IN. WE NEED CHANGE AND IT STARTS WITH YOU. PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEEEE LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

    We are still in America and everyone regardless of race has equal rights. Do you know that the millions of blacks that are alive today that were victims of Jim Crow and racism that you and I cannot imagine and many have had family that were lynched, raped or incarcerated because of their skin color? I'm 53 years old and my mom still alive today tells the story of how when pregnant with me and traveling down south she had to urinate in a field because of Jim Crow. Also, many black veterans like my dad who volunteered for war were wounded and still did not have equal rights when they came home and millions are still alive today So based on your premise,all black people alive today that were victims of Jim Crow and violence just say in the 50 and up age groups should not trust white people? Furthermore, most black men I know regardless of income have been profiled.

    Bottom-line regardless of all the crime blacks have committed against each other in their community and as a social scientist, I know there are complex reason why, it will never rival the violence inflicted by whites against blacks in this country. Also, I'm tired of white people playing the victim and my race is holier than thou card because history is not on your side!

    hdworship

  • I was just stating that on paper (look for yourself) African Americans are more prone to Gangs, Violence, and low income. thats it. African Americans today like Al Sharpton says hiself we need to change the statistics. If not they would not be considered a minority.

    Those who leave, will be champions. - Justin Boren

    COODanke

  • CO Dank said...

    I'll buy it, how much. lol

    LOL!!!!

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    mapatton

  • CO Dank said...

    I was just stating that on paper (look for yourself) African Americans are more prone to Gangs, Violence, and low income. thats it. African Americans today like Al Sharpton says hiself we need to change the statistics. If not they would not be considered a minority.

    Again, that's talk about the behavior of whites until the government forced them to treat blacks equally! Again, I'm a social scientist and there are complex reasons for black poverty, crime and black on black violence. I know that prior to the 1970's the black family were together and there was no violence in their neighborhoods. There are also millions of whites alive today that practiced Jim Crow so again whites are not holier than everyone else!

    The logic should be more black people should fear white men!

    hdworship

  • Let's all admit we don't know the full story. The media has, with political purpose, gone overboard to portray Martin as an innocent child. Just look at the pictures they posted. Zimmerman looks like a thug and Martin (obvious grade school picture) looks very cute with that young childish, innocent smile. It will be so telling when they post the autopy results of drugs (if any or what type) found in Martin's body. We will know if he was high which would have made him combative and confrontational. The 911 tapes of Zimmerman; when he was told not to follow shows that he agreed. The confrontation and shooting happened after so it seems. There was an eye witness that will testify on behalf of Zimmerman. So we really need to wait and see how this all shakes out. I am in no way condoning the killing of a young man. Just innocent untill proven guilty. Sharpton, Jackson and the black panthers need to stay out of this. We all know how they try to drum up hysteria and have been wrong in their assesments in the past.

    Buckeyewest

  • CO Dank said...

    I agree, Sharpton and Jackson are stirring alot of stuff. I heard a protest with Sharpton him sayin "we are tired of goin to jail for no reason, and not coming home for supper" when 90% of the crimes towards african americans are from african americans. He's acting like it's the 50's. Its stuff like this is why we as a country can't come together.

    Sharpton and Jackson need to stay the hell away from this they are nothing but a couple of crooked buttholes.

    redfox

  • ng164300 said...

    Trayvon might have felt threatened by the guy following him but when he had the guy on the ground and was beating the crap out of him that seems far more aggressive than defensive to me. If a guy is on his back and screaming like a little girl for help is he really a threat to you?

    The more I read your post, the more I believe thats really you as your avatar...smh

    bigbuxx

  • Buckeyewest said...

    Let's all admit we don't know the full story. The media has, with political purpose, gone overboard to portray Martin as an innocent child. Just look at the pictures they posted. Zimmerman looks like a thug and Martin (obvious grade school picture) looks very cute with that young childish, innocent smile. It will be so telling when they post the autopy results of drugs (if any or what type) found in Martin's body. We will know if he was high which would have made him combative and confrontational. The 911 tapes of Zimmerman; when he was told not to follow shows that he agreed. The confrontation and shooting happened after so it seems. There was an eye witness that will testify on behalf of Zimmerman. So we really need to wait and see how this all shakes out. I am in no way condoning the killing of a young man. Just innocent untill proven guilty. Sharpton, Jackson and the black panthers need to stay out of this. We all know how they try to drum up hysteria and have been wrong in their assesments in the past.

    They have the 911 tape that said the boy ran which was also collaborated by the girlfriend that was on the phone with him for five minutes from 7:07 Pm to 7:12 Pm. (Police also have the phone records) She said, Trayvon was afraid and she told him to run, but he said he was going to walk fast, but decided to run. At 7:12, she said he was cornered by my Zimmerman and Trayvon ask him why he was following him twice and twice Zimmerman ask him why was he here? The girlfriend then heard a sound like Trayvon was pushed and they were disconnected.

    Based on this testimony no way Trayvon snuck up on Zimmerman but instead was corned by a strange man he thought was following him for the purpose of harming him. There was obviously an altercation and will never know who pushed who, But I do know if Zimmerman's heart was in the right place he would have introduced himself as part of the Community watch and there would not have been an altercation. Yes, a witness said, they saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, but another witness said, after the gun shot she saw Zimmerman on top of him. Secondly, if Al Sharpton and other blacks had not got involved the nation would have not heard about the case. As far as the Black Panther Party they are like the KKK so we should not even include them in this conversation.

    Mostly, importantly when do we condemn 17 years to death because of immature things they do like smoking weed or posting crazy stuff on twitter and facebook? Did you know that the former Sanford Police Chief was fired because he had a tape of his son beating a homeless man to death but would not arrest him? Base on your premise the murder of this man who probably had a checked past should be marginalized!

    By the way ABC just said the lead Police Officer on the case said there was probable cause for a manslaughter charge, but he did not think they could win the case. Bottom-line there is a lot of information that needs to be proved in court.

    This post was edited by hdworship on 3/27/2012 at 5:38 PM

    hdworship

  • FWIW

    Police investigated Trayvon Martin over jewelry

    By KYLE HIGHTOWER Associated Press The Associated Press

    Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

    SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — Women's jewelry and a watch found in Trayvon Martin's school backpack last fall could not be tied to any reported thefts, the Miami-Dade Police Department said Tuesday.

    The Miami Herald in its Tuesday editions reported that it had obtained a Miami-Dade Schools Police Department report that showed the slain teenager was suspended in October for writing obscene graffiti on a door at his high school. During a search of his backpack, the report said, campus security officers found 12 pieces of women's jewelry, a watch and a screwdriver that they felt could be used as a burglary tool.

    Martin's fatal Feb. 26 shooting in Sanford, Fla., by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman has caused a national firestorm. His family and people at rallies all over the country have demanded the arrest of Zimmerman who says he shot the unarmed 17-year-old in self-defense. Martin was black and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother, Hispanic. Martin's family and their supporters believe race played a part in the decision not to charge Zimmerman.

    The Herald reported that when campus security confronted Martin with the jewelry, he told them that a friend had given it to him, but he wouldn't give a name. The report said the jewelry was confiscated and a photo of it was sent to Miami-Dade Police burglary detectives. Miami-Dade school officials declined Tuesday to confirm the report when contacted by The Associated Press, citing federal privacy laws regarding students.

    Miami-Dade Police confirmed that it had been asked by school police to help identify the property taken from Martin's backpack. It notified school police that the jewelry did not match any that had been reported stolen.

    Martin had previously been suspended for excessive absences and tardiness and, at the time of his death, was serving a 10-day suspension after school officials found an empty plastic bag with marijuana traces in his backpack.

    His parents and their lawyer, Benjamin Crump, have said such reports are irrelevant to the shooting and part of an attempt to demonize Martin. Crump did not return calls to The Associated Press on Tuesday.

    pazbuc

  • If you are beating the crap out of somebody who is on the ground and screaming help and get shot. Is it a tragedy? Many people would think it is completely justified. The whole story created by the media was fake. They showed a picture of him when he was a little kid and claimed he only weighed 140 pounds. They tried to paint Zimmerman as a monster before the facts were even known. With the media you are always guilty until proven innocent.

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    ng164300

  • Florida is a swing state. A must win for either candidate.

    Jesse Jackson, Sharpton and other "community organizers" are out in full force. To quote CC Music Factory. "Things that make you say hmmm...."

    AtlantaBuck

  • ng164300 said...

    The media was real quick to point out that this was a shooting of an innocent person. Zimmerman has a broken nose and cuts on the back of his head from getting beat up by Trayvon. A neighbor witnessed Zimmerman screaming and getting beaten up by Trayvon before he shot Trayvon. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-27/trayvon-martin-was-killed-after-confronting-shooter-city-says.html Zimmerman was an idiot for following the kid but the shooting was self-defense. One of these days the media will learn to cover the story in an objective way instead of instantly declaring someone innocent or guilty.

    The kid was shot in the back. Unless Zimmerman has extra long arms, you can't claim self defense while you're shooting someone in the back. Anyone ever think that the kid was scared as well because he was being followed and subsequently beat up by a 30-40 year old man?? And he was unarmed? Zimmerman shot him because he let the situation get the best of him and not because he was trying to defend himself.

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    buckperry

  • pazbuc said...

    FWIW

    Police investigated Trayvon Martin over jewelry

    By KYLE HIGHTOWER Associated Press The Associated Press

    Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

    SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — Women's jewelry and a watch found in Trayvon Martin's school backpack last fall could not be tied to any reported thefts, the Miami-Dade Police Department said Tuesday.

    The Miami Herald in its Tuesday editions reported that it had obtained a Miami-Dade Schools Police Department report that showed the slain teenager was suspended in October for writing obscene graffiti on a door at his high school. During a search of his backpack, the report said, campus security officers found 12 pieces of women's jewelry, a watch and a screwdriver that they felt could be used as a burglary tool.

    Martin's fatal Feb. 26 shooting in Sanford, Fla., by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman has caused a national firestorm. His family and people at rallies all over the country have demanded the arrest of Zimmerman who says he shot the unarmed 17-year-old in self-defense. Martin was black and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother, Hispanic. Martin's family and their supporters believe race played a part in the decision not to charge Zimmerman.

    The Herald reported that when campus security confronted Martin with the jewelry, he told them that a friend had given it to him, but he wouldn't give a name. The report said the jewelry was confiscated and a photo of it was sent to Miami-Dade Police burglary detectives. Miami-Dade school officials declined Tuesday to confirm the report when contacted by The Associated Press, citing federal privacy laws regarding students.

    Miami-Dade Police confirmed that it had been asked by school police to help identify the property taken from Martin's backpack. It notified school police that the jewelry did not match any that had been reported stolen.

    Martin had previously been suspended for excessive absences and tardiness and, at the time of his death, was serving a 10-day suspension after school officials found an empty plastic bag with marijuana traces in his backpack.

    His parents and their lawyer, Benjamin Crump, have said such reports are irrelevant to the shooting and part of an attempt to demonize Martin. Crump did not return calls to The Associated Press on Tuesday.

    Well then I guess the kid deserved to be shot in the back. Thank you Mr. Zimmerman for getting another darkie off the streets.

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    buckperry

  • buckperry said...

    The kid was shot in the back. Unless Zimmerman has extra long arms, you can't claim self defense while you're shooting someone in the back. Anyone ever think that the kid was scared as well because he was being followed and subsequently beat up by a 30-40 year old man?? And he was unarmed? Zimmerman shot him because he let the situation get the best of him and not because he was trying to defend himself.

    I have not heard that the boy was shot in the back, where have u seen that....

    minsterbuckeye

  • buckperry said...

    Well then I guess the kid deserved to be shot in the back. Thank you Mr. Zimmerman for getting another darkie off the streets.

    You are the problem.

    Darkie is another form for me posting. Fu.

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    Tyriffic1

  • nt

    This post was edited by Tyriffic1 on 3/27/2012 at 7:44 PM

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    Tyriffic1

  • Tyriffic1 said...

    You are the problem.

    Darkie is another form for me posting. Fu.

    wow you're dumb...

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    12-0 Ohio State-ment! Untouchable!

    ForeverNuts

  • ForeverNuts said...

    wow you're dumb...

    Now, why and I 'dumb'?

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    Tyriffic1

  • There are more black males in prison because black males commit more crimes. It's pretty simple and factual.

    sinuay

  • pazbuc said...

    FWIW

    Police investigated Trayvon Martin over jewelry

    By KYLE HIGHTOWER Associated Press The Associated Press

    Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

    SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — Women's jewelry and a watch found in Trayvon Martin's school backpack last fall could not be tied to any reported thefts, the Miami-Dade Police Department said Tuesday.

    The Miami Herald in its Tuesday editions reported that it had obtained a Miami-Dade Schools Police Department report that showed the slain teenager was suspended in October for writing obscene graffiti on a door at his high school. During a search of his backpack, the report said, campus security officers found 12 pieces of women's jewelry, a watch and a screwdriver that they felt could be used as a burglary tool.

    Martin's fatal Feb. 26 shooting in Sanford, Fla., by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman has caused a national firestorm. His family and people at rallies all over the country have demanded the arrest of Zimmerman who says he shot the unarmed 17-year-old in self-defense. Martin was black and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother, Hispanic. Martin's family and their supporters believe race played a part in the decision not to charge Zimmerman.

    The Herald reported that when campus security confronted Martin with the jewelry, he told them that a friend had given it to him, but he wouldn't give a name. The report said the jewelry was confiscated and a photo of it was sent to Miami-Dade Police burglary detectives. Miami-Dade school officials declined Tuesday to confirm the report when contacted by The Associated Press, citing federal privacy laws regarding students.

    Miami-Dade Police confirmed that it had been asked by school police to help identify the property taken from Martin's backpack. It notified school police that the jewelry did not match any that had been reported stolen.

    Martin had previously been suspended for excessive absences and tardiness and, at the time of his death, was serving a 10-day suspension after school officials found an empty plastic bag with marijuana traces in his backpack.

    His parents and their lawyer, Benjamin Crump, have said such reports are irrelevant to the shooting and part of an attempt to demonize Martin. Crump did not return calls to The Associated Press on Tuesday.

    The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting and did not believe his story, multiple sources told ABC News.

    So every person that is suspected of being murdered should have their character introduced as part of the case? This is like a rape victims sexual history or what they are wearing as being justification for being raped!

    The bottom-line if you read my previous post. Zimmerman saw the kid according to 911 tape run and his girlfriend confirmed that he ran away from him at around 7:11 Pm and the altercation happened at 7:12 Pm. There was an altercation, but no way Trayvon had time to chase down Zimmerman because he was cornered.

    I don't care if he was a black, white, red or brown on crack and had been in jail, he did not deserve to die like he did because he was on the phone with his girlfriend coming from the store with candy and Ice tea.

    Man how many people do you know that used drugs in high school and did immature things? Do you think that should mute justice for them?

    hdworship

  • Darkie...wow....

    FN...you are a nut.

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    Tyriffic1

  • sinuay said...

    There are more black males in prison because black males commit more crimes. It's pretty simple and factual.

    I worked in the criminal justice system for over 30 years and this is a lie. It is more about who your lawyer is and poverty. Clearly, bases on these arguments and history blacks should fear white males! What do you say to the millions of blacks still alive today that were victims of Jim Crow and thousands that had family members lynched or raped by white men? By the way most that I know never played the race or victim card and just motivate my generation to go to college or join the military. In fact millions of whites that practiced Jim Crow are alive today so explain their behavior?

    This post was edited by hdworship on 3/27/2012 at 8:07 PM

    hdworship

  • sinuay said...

    There are more black males in prison because black males commit more crimes. It's pretty simple and factual.

    We're going to spout off stats huh? Well how about this fact: most mass murders, child molesters, child killers and every cannibal I've ever heard of has been white. So does that mean whites should be under more scrutiny when they are around children or steak knives??? That sounds ignorant because it is ignorant. Even if the stats are true it doesn't give me the right to treat anyone that way. That's pretty simple and factual.

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    buckperry

  • Tyriffic1 said...

    You are the problem.

    Darkie is another form for me posting. Fu.

    You realize I wasn't condoning that behavior? My point was the actions of Mr. Zimmerman are not justified because of the kid's history because there's no way he knew his history before he shot him.

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    buckperry

  • buckperry said...

    You realize I wasn't condoning that behavior? My point was the actions of Mr. Zimmerman are not justified because of the kid's history because there's no way he knew his history before he shot him.

    No worries here my friend. Really.

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