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Wisconsin has lost 24,000 jobs in the last year

  • PABuck24 said...

    Unemployment has gone up under Barry....and they're not even reporting the real #s....(i.e. underemployed, or those who've stopped looking for work)....Obama has us on track to be the next Greece. Great. How about fuel prices and expendable income killing the middle class. This is what you get when you have an amateur with no business experience, who's a communitiy organizer (agitator) in the White House. He is clueless. You'd have to be high to re-elect Obama. He's going to get pummeled at the polls in November. People are waking up and don't buy the media's garbage any longer.

    Come on.....do you know what happened in Greece? They released faulty statistics to receive entrance into to the EU and those statistics made them look like a good bet for federal bonds. When the correct statistics were received by Eurostat and they ended up being nothing compared to the past. That lead to bonds being dumped off and the crisis. It is way more than just the debt that they had.

    shaunsimpson

  • TimMcM said...

    Unemployment only when up under Obama if you start the day he was sworn in - which is just stupid. He was in office 10 days in Jan. 09 and there were like 780,000 jobs lost. He was in office 38 days for the Feb count in which about 750,000 jobs were lost. 69 days in for March and 720,000 jobs lost.

    Only idiots would think that Obama was in any way responsible for the loss of approximately 2.5 million jobs in his first 69 days in office. If you look at the facts it is clears that Obama helped slow down the job loss number each month until we finally started having positive numbers.

    If you think he did not turn things around quickly enough, pick up a history book. This was the worse economy since the Great Depression. How many years did it take for economy to rebound from that one?

    Tim -

    Can you clarify for me since I really don't know the answer so this isn't meant to be a flame.

    Did we start having positive numbers or did the rate of loss just decrease? Sometimes politicians consider a 1% loss better than a 2% loss just because it isn't as big of a loss, but it is still a loss.

    (again, there is so much more to this than Obama like mentioned, but I was courious on the numbers since there are so many different indicators and how to interpret them)

    shaunsimpson

  • bleedscarlet said...

    Drop in unemployment just means they stopped benefits or they were forced to move.

    ITA... Wisky is not doing better and the recall is coming...Plus there's all of his cronies still being investigated by the FBI and the State.... 2 already indicted....

    GO PACK GO!!!!! Go Brew Crew!!!!

    Seattlebuckfan

  • bleedscarlet said...

    No, you need your head examined . The top 10% make 90% of the wealth and only pay 30 -40 % of the taxes, Great gig if you can get it buy buying off the government the supreme ass holes and the media, And yes most of the media is bought and paid for by big money.

    If you were ever to look at the "right-wing" radical website named irs.org, you would realize that your statement is absolutely ludicrous. Top 10% pay around 75% of the taxes. The top 10% represents individuals, families, or businesses bringing in $100,000 + per year. I'm in that range and I can't buy anyone off. Maybe the real sleeze bags are our life-long politicians. Without them, big business can't perform their dastardly deeds.

    Think and research without party bias before you vote this year. We should also ask ourselves if government is so different from us that they can spend and waste more than they bring in.

    TiffinDawg

  • TiffinDawg said...

    If you were ever to look at the "right-wing" radical website named irs.org, you would realize that your statement is absolutely ludicrous. Top 10% pay around 75% of the taxes. The top 10% represents individuals, families, or businesses bringing in $100,000 + per year. I'm in that range and I can't buy anyone off. Maybe the real sleeze bags are our life-long politicians. Without them, big business can't perform their dastardly deeds.

    Think and research without party bias before you vote this year. We should also ask ourselves if government is so different from us that they can spend and waste more than they bring in.

    But...but...75% isn't enough. We need to do our share and contribute more, so other people that choose to do less can have better health coverage than we do, so their kids can receive a discounted college education our kids aren't eligible for, and so that unemployment can last for 2 years so people don't even have to actively look for a job.

    codexp2

  • amen "TiffinDawg" & "codexp2", & a few others ("danls...", "minster...", "NEOH...") ; The other posters whom I don't agree with, ("bleedscarlet...", "seattle.."TimMcM", "goby", "shaun..."), oh well - agree to disagree....but I still love all my fellow Buckeye brethren - even if we don't agree politically.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by PABuck24 on 4/25/2012 at 3:40 PM

    PABuck24

  • PABuck24 said...

    Scott Walker > Obama & Walker is more qualified Chris Christie > Obama & Christie is more qualified

    I would vote for Mickey Mouse over B.H.O. at this point.

    If you live in the upper midwest, you know what a mess Wisconsin is because of Walker. Being a Republican or Democrat doesn't matter, Walker is a moron and an incompetent buffoon. His biggest issue in the eyes of the voters however, is that he has effectively attempted to dismantle collective bargaining as well as any downgrade any semblance of public education in the state of WI.

    This post was edited by Frozen Buckeye on 4/25/2012 at 3:42 PM

    Badger Alumni, Lifelong Buckeye.

    Frozen Buckeye

  • bleedscarlet said...

    No, you need your head examined . The top 10% make 90% of the wealth and only pay 30 -40 % of the taxes, Great gig if you can get it buy buying off the government the supreme ass holes and the media, And yes most of the media is bought and paid for by big money.

    I think you're the one who needs their head examined, big guy. Try closer to 70% of the taxes.

    The only thing this country is doing is punishing the successful for being successful. The rich will always be able to find places to stash their money, this country needs to stop scarring the people with the money away. We need to be giving them an incentive to spend it (I.E. Make the environment in this country more conducive to businesses.).

    This country has a spending problem not a tax problem. We're adding over a trillion dollars of debt a year and the next big chunk of Obama Care hasn't even kicked in yet. The only thing you are doing with this irresponsible spending is punishing the up in coming generation's ability to be prosperous, rather then addressing the true issue at hand. Or, to put it bluntly, running scarred and abdicating responsibility, instead of standing up and fixing the problem.

    I wonder how many people would have voted for Obama in 2008 if they knew this was the kind of "Change" he had it mind? I distinctly remember him saying that he would confront difficult issues rather then run from them. He talks big talk, but categorically refuses back it up.

    Have a great day.

    PrimusX

  • PrimusX said...

    I think you're the one who needs their head examined, big guy. Try closer to 70% of the taxes.

    The only thing this country is doing is punishing the successful for being successful. The rich will always be able to find places to stash their money, this country needs to stop scarring the people with the money away. We need to be giving them an incentive to spend it (I.E. Make the environment in this country more conducive to businesses.).

    This country has a spending problem not a tax problem. We're adding over a trillion dollars of debt a year and the next big chunk of Obama Care hasn't even kicked in yet. The only thing you are doing with this irresponsible spending is punishing the up in coming generation's ability to be prosperous, rather then addressing the true issue at hand. Or, to put it bluntly, running scarred and abdicating responsibility, instead of standing up and fixing the problem.

    I wonder how many people would have voted for Obama in 2008 if they knew this was the kind of "Change" he had it mind? I distinctly remember him saying that he would confront difficult issues rather then run from them. He talks big talk, but categorically refuses back it up.

    Have a great day.

    B-I-N-G-O. "bleedscarlet" likes to make up his own "facts" and statistics to support whatever he's been told by whomever has clearly made him and indoctrinated lib.

    Here is the echo of his credibility hitting rock bottom (it has done so once already), http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html .

    sryan2

  • Frozen Buckeye said...

    If you live in the upper midwest, you know what a mess Wisconsin is because of Walker. Being a Republican or Democrat doesn't matter, Walker is a moron and an incompetent buffoon. His biggest issue in the eyes of the voters however, is that he has effectively attempted to dismantle collective bargaining as well as any downgrade any semblance of public education in the state of WI.

    Wisconsin was in a mess because of out of control spending by the spenocrats, but Walker has gotten it under control. Thank God, Walker has eliminated collective bargaining for public employees!

    Frozen Buckeye, you sound like the typical unionized public sector worker that feels entitled to an absurdly early retirement, inflated wages, platinum plated healthcare and ridiculous pension benefits. You would never make it in the private sector and you want to know why? It's because you are a loser and consumed with jealousy and believe others owe you. No one owes you shit!

    bradysmanboobs

  • TimMcM said...

    Actually pretty well all things considered. Certainly better than anything Romney has to offer. Check his financial advisors. Looks like we would be getting W3 with the same results.

    Yep Tim you are right. The last 4 years have just been outstanding for the country. The economy is growing and people are back to work. Tax receipts are up and the deficit is under control. Too bad that none of that is true. I know it is the fault of all those business owners who are busy being successful. If they would just pay their fair share so the rest can sit at home and collect their check from the government things would be great.

    jjguth

  • TimMcM said...

    Actually pretty well all things considered. Certainly better than anything Romney has to offer. Check his financial advisors. Looks like we would be getting W3 with the same results.

    Tim, you're kidding right? Obama has zero experience working in the private sector and yet you believe he knows better than Romney (an exceptional businessman) how to run the economy? Thanks for the laugh!

    I take that back, that Obama has zero experience in the private sector. During his crack smoking days, he probably was selling drugs to help pay for his crack habit.

    bradysmanboobs

  • bleedscarlet said...

    No, you need your head examined . The top 10% make 90% of the wealth and only pay 30 -40 % of the taxes, Great gig if you can get it buy buying off the government the supreme ass holes and the media, And yes most of the media is bought and paid for by big money.

    bleedscarlet, get off your ass and work and get your self in the top 10% if you don't like it.

    Better yet, move to North Korea, where the gov't will take care of your needs and everyone is equal.

    bradysmanboobs

  • codexp2 said...

    But...but...75% isn't enough. We need to do our share and contribute more, so other people that choose to do less can have better health coverage than we do, so their kids can receive a discounted college education our kids aren't eligible for, and so that unemployment can last for 2 years so people don't even have to actively look for a job.

    That's not quite accurate. If you think we live in a welfare state now just wait til you start pricing those people out of college. There will be no end. You like to name all of our problems without thinking of how to solve them. Desroying our environment by deregulation is not a solution. Lower taxes and defunding of public education is not a solution. Developing a Theocracy where everyone has the same belief system as everyone else is not the solution. Constant name calling and disagreement is not how I raise my children - I tell them that if there is a problem then you should work together to find a solution that you both benefit from. Regardless of how much money you have, greed is not a virtue - in fact, its one the 7 Deadly Sins. I'm not advocating laziness or apathy, but shouldn't we work together to make sure that the less-fortunate among us have at least the same oppotunity to work towards something they can be proud of? So that they can achieve what their family before them was not able to achieve. Everything is alwayss me, me, me. That is not a virtuous way to exist.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    Tim, you're kidding right? Obama has zero experience working in the private sector and yet you believe he knows better than Romney (an exceptional businessman) how to run the economy? Thanks for the laugh!

    I take that back, that Obama has zero experience in the private sector. During his crack smoking days, he probably was selling drugs to help pay for his crack habit.

    You're funny. And while your post doesn't deserve the dignity of a response, I will say this: THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT PRIVATE SECTOR!!!!! Our country is in the business of making our country better for everyone - and the 1% has it quite well. It is not designed to make money for a few companies with oil & farm subsidies and wartime contracts.

    Yeah, I said it.

    shalvoy

  • shalvoy said...

    That's not quite accurate. If you think we live in a welfare state now just wait til you start pricing those people out of college. There will be no end. You like to name all of our problems without thinking of how to solve them. Desroying our environment by deregulation is not a solution. Lower taxes and defunding of public education is not a solution. Developing a Theocracy where everyone has the same belief system as everyone else is not the solution. Constant name calling and disagreement is not how I raise my children - I tell them that if there is a problem then you should work together to find a solution that you both benefit from. Regardless of how much money you have, greed is not a virtue - in fact, its one the 7 Deadly Sins. I'm not advocating laziness or apathy, but shouldn't we work together to make sure that the less-fortunate among us have at least the same oppotunity to work towards something they can be proud of? So that they can achieve what their family before them was not able to achieve. Everything is alwayss me, me, me. That is not a virtuous way to exist.

    I do not believe that the negative things you point out are what the majority of constituents in either of the two major parties advocate. Unfortunately, it is the extremists who tend to grab the headlines (and microphones). The real challenge is HOW "we work together to make sure that the less-fortunate among us have at least the same opportunity to work towards something they can be proud of"... I'm telling you right now that the upper Middle Class (who some contend are part of "the rich") are already paying far more than their "fair share" and should not (cannot) be burdened with even more of the load (particularly when almost half the country pays nothing in Federal income taxes). The truth is things like "The Buffet Rule" would only fund our government for one day in the next fiscal year and seven over the next ten years (which is nothing more than political theater but go for it as far as I'm concerned). Despite the naive belief that we can solve our problems just by taxing "the rich", the reality is we have a FAR greater spending problem than a revenue one... Things like Obamacare will NOT improve what is already a dire situation.

    I also agree with you about the "me, me, me, me" culture... No one thinks it is their responsibility to step up (look at the hysterical reactions to things like SB5 which at the very least was a strong basis for needed reforms). IF increased taxes will go to eliminating our deficit, I'm willing to contribute to dig us out of the hole (and I will guarantee you over half of what I make already goes to government through all the various taxing mechanisms which is beyond absurd). However, entitlement spending must be significantly dialed back if we are to be realistic and sincere about addressing our problems. Additionally, government has to become a more efficient entity and it's management and employees brought in line with private sector realities.

    Finally, it's time to call people like the following out and stop rewarding laziness and apathy while punishing hard work and success, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2kGPdxkofo . No more making it more profitable and easier not to work rather than getting a job. No more disability and insurance fraud. No more subsidizing things like cell phones. No more having people selling their food stamp loaded cards for profit. No more "settling for pennies on the dollar" for debt people racked up on their own accord. No more suing people as a desired method of income. No more allowing the "pain seekers" to cripple our healthcare system. No more aid of any kind to people who aren't willing to take a drug test before they get their "Obamabucks". No more providing benefits to people who are in our country illegally. No more telling people they are victims because they are stupid. ENOUGH.

    AND let's pursue white collar crime with the same vigor and severe punishment as blue collar crime (I'm talking about you John Corzine and other Democrats and Republicans alike).

    sryan2

  • bleedscarlet said...

    4,500 in the last month.. How's that tea bag thing working out!

    To use the Obama-mantra ---- just think how many jobs would have been lost had he done nothing!!! Maybe 100,000!

    Tea is still tasting good...

    Crickybear

  • sryan2 said...

    I do not believe that the negative things you point out are what the majority of constituents in either of the two major parties advocate. Unfortunately, it is the extremists who tend to grab the headlines (and microphones). The real challenge is HOW "we work together to make sure that the less-fortunate among us have at least the same opportunity to work towards something they can be proud of"... I'm telling you right now that the upper Middle Class (who some contend are part of "the rich") are already paying far more than their "fair share" and should not (cannot) be burdened with even more of the load (particularly when almost half the country pays nothing in Federal income taxes). The truth is things like "The Buffet Rule" would only fund our government for one day in the next fiscal year and seven over the next ten years (which is nothing more than political theater but go for it as far as I'm concerned). Despite the naive belief that we can solve our problems just by taxing "the rich", the reality is we have a FAR greater spending problem than a revenue one... Things like Obamacare will NOT improve what is already a dire situation.

    I also agree with you about the "me, me, me, me" culture... No one thinks it is their responsibility to step up (look at the hysterical reactions to things like SB5 which at the very least was a strong basis for needed reforms). IF increased taxes will go to eliminating our deficit, I'm willing to contribute to dig us out of the hole (and I will guarantee you over half of what I make already goes to government through all the various taxing mechanisms which is beyond absurd). However, entitlement spending must be significantly dialed back if we are to be realistic and sincere about addressing our problems. Additionally, government has to become a more efficient entity and it's management and employees brought in line with private sector realities.

    Finally, it's time to call people like the following out and stop rewarding laziness and apathy while punishing hard work and success, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2kGPdxkofo . No more making it more profitable and easier not to work rather than getting a job. No more disability and insurance fraud. No more subsidizing things like cell phones. No more having people selling their food stamp loaded cards for profit. No more "settling for pennies on the dollar" for debt people racked up on their own accord. No more suing people as a desired method of income. No more allowing the "pain seekers" to cripple our healthcare system. No more aid of any kind to people who aren't willing to take a drug test before they get their "Obamabucks". No more providing benefits to people who are in our country illegally. No more telling people they are victims because they are stupid. ENOUGH.

    AND let's pursue white collar crime with the same vigor and severe punishment as blue collar crime (I'm talking about you John Corzine and other Democrats and Republicans alike).

    If you decide to run, you have my backing. I'm not sure I can raise the 800+ million (I know it's listed at 743 million) Obama spent, but I'll do my best.

    codexp2

  • codexp2 said...

    If you decide to run, you have my backing. I'm not sure I can raise the 800+ million (I know it's listed at 743 million) Obama spent, but I'll do my best.

    Appreciate the endorsement but no chance (would never survive the background check and not interested in the pay cut either). I'm just aspiring to own a ride like yours... Very nice.

    sryan2

  • bradysmanboobs said...

    Wisconsin was in a mess because of out of control spending by the spenocrats, but Walker has gotten it under control. Thank God, Walker has eliminated collective bargaining for public employees!

    Frozen Buckeye, you sound like the typical unionized public sector worker that feels entitled to an absurdly early retirement, inflated wages, platinum plated healthcare and ridiculous pension benefits. You would never make it in the private sector and you want to know why? It's because you are a loser and consumed with jealousy and believe others owe you. No one owes you shit!

    Nice assumptions. First, I'm not a union member, I'm a member of the private sector. I feel entitled to an absurdly early retirement because I was smart and started investing and managing money for my retirement at a young age. Microsoft Stock financed my college education, and I have paid for my law degree. You're right - nobody owes me shit because I don't need their handouts.

    Excuse me if I didn't check my humanity at the door to make a few dollars. I'm willing to spend my money to make a better state for people because frankly, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. What's your excuse?

    Badger Alumni, Lifelong Buckeye.

    Frozen Buckeye

  • sryan2 said...

    Appreciate the endorsement but no chance (would never survive the background check and not interested in the pay cut either). I'm just aspiring to own a ride like yours... Very nice.

    If you run under the guise of a liberal, the media would sweep the whole background thing under the rug.

    I was a Lamborghini guy, until I drove a Ferrari. If you do get one, remember it's a onetime investment. There's not much deprecation after year 2. I paid 170s and had an offer two years later in the 170s. If I sold the car today, I essentially drove the car for free minus maintenance and insurance. Justification in my mind!

    codexp2

  • Frozen Buckeye said...

    Nice assumptions. First, I'm not a union member, I'm a member of the private sector. I feel entitled to an absurdly early retirement because I was smart and started investing and managing money for my retirement at a young age. Microsoft Stock financed my college education, and I have paid for my law degree. You're right - nobody owes me shit because I don't need their handouts.

    Excuse me if I didn't check my humanity at the door to make a few dollars. I'm willing to spend my money to make a better state for people because frankly, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. What's your excuse?

    Agreed, but when you're one link supporting 216 links...

    codexp2

  • codexp2 said...

    Agreed, but when you're one link supporting 216 links...

    True enough. I just feel that it's important to spend to support said links, because sometimes, there really is talent down at link 210-216 that just needs a little bit of help to be able to rise to the top. My father moved to this country with 2 suitcases and a Medical Degree, but subsisted on what was essentially government assistance while working at a Brooklyn Veteran's Hospital... I think his total income was something like $13,000 a year in 1976-ish. He was making it work, and ended up through his own hard work starting a private practice and is doing quite well for himself.

    Granted, I feel this way because I have a personal connection to a success story borne of it, but, hey, nobody's perfect.

    This post was edited by Frozen Buckeye on 4/26/2012 at 2:53 AM

    Badger Alumni, Lifelong Buckeye.

    Frozen Buckeye

  • Frozen Buckeye said...

    True enough. I just feel that it's important to spend to support said links, because sometimes, there really is talent down at link 210-216 that just needs a little bit of help to be able to rise to the top. My father moved to this country with 2 suitcases and a Medical Degree, but subsisted on what was essentially government assistance while working at a Brooklyn Veteran's Hospital... I think his total income was something like $13,000 a year in 1976-ish. He was making it work, and ended up through his own hard work starting a private practice and is doing quite well for himself.

    Granted, I feel this way because I have a personal connection to a success story borne of it, but, hey, nobody's perfect.

    I will never fault another human being from trying. I love shopping at Fry's Foods (owned by Kroger) because they hire individuals with disabilities. I was recently joking with the gentleman bagging my groceries about working too much. I guess you would classify him as developmentally disabled. His response: "man, I wish I could get that many hours". That's what I love to see, someone that wants to contribute. My gripe is with able bodied individuals that abuse the system, and trust me there's a lot of it! If my taxes are going to help people who are trying, most of my gripes go away.

    codexp2

  • NEOhio77 said...

    You mean the 1% that pay 30-40% of the federal taxes? You need to have your head examined if you don't think that is more than fair.

    Good job, you are proving the Progressive point. How ridiculous to have 1% of the people have make that much more money that the 99% of the c

    dave1954