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hey CNN, NO questions on GAS.......

  • hey what is the number one thing people are talking about, and the President is having his little speech on Energy TODAY.......and not one question on GAS in the debate last night..... c'mon......

    minsterbuckeye

  • The mod asked the candidates what they would do, if anything, to lower gas prices (or something of that nature) and the candidates sidestepped the question to continue talking about Iran/Syria.

    The only one to actually take on the question was Newt and Newt mentioned opening up federal lands which he said would make us the number one oil producing country in the world, making it to where we would never have to depend on Arab oil again.

    This post was edited by fbllman on 2/23/2012 at 10:25 AM

    We may disagree on issues, but at the end of the day we are all Americans - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJoZiB-UGY&ob=av2e

    fbllman

  • And Newt is correct. The shale in the Rocky Mountains holds more oil than Saudi Arabia. We have new technology to cleanly transform coal into oil and Natural Gas. There is oil all over America....The outer continental shelf, Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico............The supply/demand theory is not fooling anyone anymore.

    Magicbuck

  • fbllman said...

    The mod asked the candidates what they would do, if anything, to lower gas prices (or something of that nature) and the candidates sidestepped the question to continue talking about Iran/Syria.

    The only one to actually take on the question was Newt and Newt mentioned opening up federal lands which he said would make us the number one oil producing country in the world, making it to where we would never have to depend on Arab oil again.

    That wouldn't work because we simply don't have enough oil left to make a dent in prices here. Our oil production maxed out in the early 70s and has been steadily sinking ever since because we just don't have the reserves left to raise production. Newt is just throwing a sop out to anyone dumb enough to believe it.

    Urban_Meyer

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    That wouldn't work because we simply don't have enough oil left to make a dent in prices here. Our oil production maxed out in the early 70s and has been steadily sinking ever since because we just don't have the reserves left to raise production. Newt is just throwing a sop out to anyone dumb enough to believe it.

    Wait, i am confused, I have seen posted on this board by some freindly folks from the far left that the USA is producing more oil now than it has for decades? that Obama alone made this happen.
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-16/us-oil-boom/52053236/1

    Now you come along and say that our production was maxed out over 30 some odd years ago?

    So i should be dumb enough to beleive the folks making the claim that we are producing more now than ever? or dumb enough to belive your statement?

    gpracer73

  • my believe,may be wrong I think USA has plenty in storage an abundance of untapped resources and don't want use these avenues in hope of someday draining the Arab nations. so someday we rule the roost with consumable energy.

    This post was edited by stcburn on 2/23/2012 at 10:54 AM

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  • gpracer73 said...

    Wait, i am confused, I have seen posted on this board by some freindly folks from the far left that the USA is producing more oil now than it has for decades? that Obama alone made this happen. http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-16/us-oil-boom/52053236/1

    Now you come along and say that our production was maxed out over 30 some odd years ago?

    So i should be dumb enough to beleive the folks making the claim that we are producing more now than ever? or dumb enough to belive your statement?

    Whoever said the US is producing more now than ever is wrong, we did max out in the 70s and that's why (coupled with ever-rising demand) that we were forced to get oil from the Middle East.

    Urban_Meyer

  • Magicbuck said...

    And Newt is correct. The shale in the Rocky Mountains holds more oil than Saudi Arabia. We have new technology to cleanly transform coal into oil and Natural Gas. There is oil all over America....The outer continental shelf, Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico............The supply/demand theory is not fooling anyone anymore.

    What Newt said last night will take years to see any sort of results? So, did Newt answer the question or did he give the half truth response he always gives for points. Now, we all know why these gas prices are high, that Iran either wants a nuke weapon (to attack Israel) and wil stop at nothing to this end. As a result of our response (scansions) Iran has aligned themselves with the Syrian mess. As we all have heard, Syria is engaged in killing there own people. Do we cave to the dictator in Iran (go to war with Syria) or remain steadfast and let the sanctions work both against Syria and Iran. Let's not get blindsided by these candidates who’s running for president to use the gas price crunch for political posturing. We all need to support the White House on this issue and not make the price of gas a problem for only the president's re-election. Regardless of political affiliation, as the saying goes, God give the straight to change, but only the things we have in our power to change. We are powerless against the extremist and if we attempt to change it will mean going to war in Syria, or take an action against Iran. Speechifying to get political points by any other word (Newt) is just Rhetoric.

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    ER315

  • Yep, exploiting any type of oil field takes years and tons of money before we see any type of return on it. Any president that actually does jump start oil production wouldn't be in office long enough to see the benefits.

    Urban_Meyer

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    Yep, exploiting any type of oil field takes years and tons of money before we see any type of return on it. Any president that actually does jump start oil production wouldn't be in office long enough to see the benefits.

    Great rationale... We shouldn't bother with any new exploration because there wouldn't be any short term benefit (which is also inaccurate because oil prices are also predicated based upon futures). Is that what your "moderate" intuition tells you?

    sryan2

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    That wouldn't work because we simply don't have enough oil left to make a dent in prices here. Our oil production maxed out in the early 70s and has been steadily sinking ever since because we just don't have the reserves left to raise production. Newt is just throwing a sop out to anyone dumb enough to believe it.

    Uh no, not even close. There is more oil in Alaska and in the shales projects that the leftist/conservatives won't let anyone touch for fear of wildlife issues....pretty sad. UM, your facts are totally incorrect.

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  • sryan2 said...

    Great rationale... We shouldn't bother with any new exploration because there wouldn't be any short term benefit (which is also inaccurate because oil prices are also predicated based upon futures). Is that what your "moderate" intuition tells you?

    No, that's based on facts. The best course of action to take is to make the transition (although it's expensive) to something sustainable because even if we do manage to massively raise production we're still relying on a finite amount of oil that will run out someday and that will be devastating because our entire economy and society rely on it. Our consumption of oil is continuously rising and production will never be able to keep up because there just isn't enough oil to go around.

    And I was talking about Newt saying that he would lower gas prices. Every candidate gives some BS idea that they will be able to lower gas prices instantly just to make any gullible idiot that will believe it vote for them but my point was that none of them will actually be in office to see the benefits so they are just BSing everyone.

    Urban_Meyer

  • buckfanoutwest said...

    Uh no, not even close. There is more oil in Alaska and in the shales projects that the leftist/conservatives won't let anyone touch for fear of wildlife issues....pretty sad. UM, your facts are totally incorrect.

    Nope, if you look at the numbers of production we have been steadily declining since the early 70s. Even with new fields being opened up we won't go back over that peak. Prove me wrong.

    Urban_Meyer

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    Nope, if you look at the numbers of production we have been steadily declining since the early 70s. Even with new fields being opened up we won't go back over that peak. Prove me wrong.

    These are not mutually exclusive arguments.... you are correct in that our production has beens teadily declinging since the 70's HOWEVER that is only because we have not expanded our oil production outside fo the primary sites in texas and the rest of the midwest/southwest. There is oil in the rockies, alaska, and the gulf that has never been touched and it is a widely accepted belief that NATURAL GAS is the sustainable source of energy that will reduce dependancy on foreign oil. Whether you like it or not the market has repeatedly provided a barrier to entry for Wind and Solar Energy. Alternative energies such as ethanol has also proven to be unsustainable. Maybe, someday, with the evolution of technology solar energy will be a viable source of alternative energy but as of now its not, which is why Obamas bone head move... cough* favor cough*.... of dishing out half a billion dollars of federally guaranteed money to a private corporation who then set up shop in silicon valley so they could pay the most expensive price per square foot of anywher ein the country to set up a manufacturing plan... then after going belly up they sell the raw materials they bought with federal money for their own profit....

    Natural gas does not have to be the end all be all, it can be another stepping stone until technology, and the market, allow for solar energy to be viable

    PotomacBuck

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    Whoever said the US is producing more now than ever is wrong, we did max out in the 70s and that's why (coupled with ever-rising demand) that we were forced to get oil from the Middle East.

    Can you point me to where it states that? not saying you are wrong, but the USA today article I posted says you are wrong and Obama himself says you are wrong and of course plenty of folks on this site has told me you are wrong.

    Just trying to figure out who has the facts on this?

    gpracer73

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    buckfanoutwest

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    That wouldn't work because we simply don't have enough oil left to make a dent in prices here. Our oil production maxed out in the early 70s and has been steadily sinking ever since because we just don't have the reserves left to raise production. Newt is just throwing a sop out to anyone dumb enough to believe it.

    I think you mean refinery capacity, which I agree. but as for oil reserves, we have plenty. Just can't get to it because the tree huggers will cry! LMAO!

    OSURocks

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    sryan2

  • gpracer73 said...

    Can you point me to where it states that? not saying you are wrong, but the USA today article I posted says you are wrong and Obama himself says you are wrong and of course plenty of folks on this site has told me you are wrong.

    Just trying to figure out who has the facts on this?

    http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS1&f=A

    Oil production peaks in 1970 and right now we're at about the 1950 level.

    Urban_Meyer

  • Drill baby drill. Most of us here now will be long gone before someone finds an alternative non carbon energy source.

    pazbuc

  • Urban_Meyer said...

    http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS1&f=A

    Oil production peaks in 1970 and right now we're at about the 1950 level.

    Thanks for the link, good info, although it looks like it came close to the 70's level in the early 80's.

    I had only seen what some folks had posted on here and the various articles of Obama claiming we have more domestic oil now than ever.

    gpracer73

  • OH yeah Minster, OPEC controls prices and Presidents don't!
    Your lame attempt to link the two proves you need to read some books

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  • pazbuc said...

    Drill baby drill. Most of us here now will be long gone before someone finds an alternative non carbon energy source.

    You realize the US would not benefit from this? OPEC...
    Drill baby drill is so funny to think that the people would benifit, oil corporations would. Read a book!

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